Lust?

I'm the wrong guy to ask. Remember, I get excited by your avatar.

I will say, that of all the sins, lust is probably my favorite.

If going to a Hooter's would cause you to look upon a woman to lust then you for sure should NOT go to a Hooter's.

I eat at restaurants that serve alcohol. Is it a sin for me to eat at those places? I don't think so because alcohol doesn't temp me.

Same thing would go for what you watch on TV. Most TV shows now day's aren't fit to watch. Even if you're watching a good family show on TV and the commercial comes on that most times embarrasses me. The commercials can't even advertise a hamburger without having something sex related in it.

Ridiculous!

I have a question for the Christian men here. Would you be ok with it if your wife were to go to a Chippendale show? Not much difference in those guys than the waitress's at Hooter’s, except they look much better than those waitress at Hooters

i am a man, and no, i would have no problem with my wife going to one of those shows. however, i really don't believe much in sin the same way a true christian would.

totally agree!!!!!

Heh!  Opie, In love you man.

Semi, I'm sure I don't have to tell you that you will find over and over and over again that "Christians" are not any more pious or less sinful than the most strident atheist.  That was one of the many straws that broke my Christian faith years ago.  I could stand sitting in church knowing what some of these men and women did as an affront to God while I tried to be a good person yet had serious doubts about the existence of invisible men in the sky.  I was scared to talk about my doubts while some of these people - one was even my Sunday School teacher and divorce judge who committed adultery - did all sorts of horrible things yet stood in front of the alter and held themselves to be holy people.

As atheists, we are free to indulge in manly things such as Hooters and be 100% free of hypocrisy.

I know you directed this post at christian men specifically, semi-but I gotta give Uno a f#$&in'-A right! on that one.

to me, it all comes down to that line ' lust in your heart'.

that's a far different thing than looking as a skimpliy clad waitress and thinking ' wow.. nice rack' or ' she sure is built'.

'lust in your heart' is far closer to obsessing about it.. you see a hot girl... you get her name.. you talk to her a little, maybe... then you go home and all you can think of is her nekkid covering on whipped cream.

that's a much different situation than a passing glance... or even a good hard stare.. at a waitress and then forgetting about her entirely by the end of the evening. plus, if you forget about her you don't have to explain to your wife why there are 14 tubs of cool whip in your fridge.

so yeah.. i desperatly want a hooters locally. they have great crab legs, and they are the only place i cna find steamed oysters. raw oysters make me yack - it's like sucking 5 ounces of lumpy snot down your throat. but a roaster of steamed oysters.. with a little hot sauce? man.... now i really want a hooters here.

and yes, i would have no problem if my wife wanted to go to a chippendales show. she's my wife, not my servant.

besides i've never understood what the big deal was.. i think those little chipmonks are cute.

 yes. i'm kidding. no, i really don't mind if she goes to one of those things. i think she went to one once, but i don't remember. it's not like it's a big deal.....

she doesn't get jealous over playboy, why would i get jealous over some dancy dudes she's not gonna lay a hand on?

that's just silly.

You might want to wait until gbrk says why he wanted a Hooters to open. I have not been to one, but people tell me the food,  as nagel said, is  the reason they go. Of course, they could be lying.

A Chippendale show is not Hooter's. The hooter's waitresses wear shorts and tight shirts, the Chip  men wear about nothing.

You can see this at the mall any day.

LOL!  Never been to one myself. I could usually see all the hooters I wanted to by just askin'.

Went to a Hooters one time, in Wilmington, N.C.  I went there because it was quite late and it was the only place open and I had worked 21 hours straight without food and been awake about 32 hours straight.  Under those circumstances, I was in no condition to lust for anything but food and--very soon thereafter--for sleep.

The alleged steak they served me was a hunk of gristle from an elderly, cactus-fed gully jumper.  It was without doubt the worst cut of meat I have ever been served at any public eating place.

I wrote Hooters off my list.  If they never get within 50 miles of the Shoals, that would not bother me in the least.

You hate them all because you got a bad steak in the wee hours of the morning at one place in Wilmington?

Hell, maybe it was the last one in the place before the next delivery.

Mr. Upside, Sir. I have taken under my wing, the young Hendrix lad, and am determined to teach him the fine nuances of the art of humor. With your permission, sir, I would like to direct my young

student to your above post. I believe he may benefit from careful study of paragraph two. Your description of  the miserable beast that was slaughtered for no apparent reason and presented to you as sustenance was down right brilliant. It was concise and your choice of adjectives was absolutely  beautiful. Those two sentences speak volumes on humor in its purest form. I have no doubt, with your permission, of course, that I shall return to it frequently as a reference for the little tyke.

 I am glad indeed that I was not pitted against you in my recent bid for humorist.

I agree with you 100%. I was in church with some of those people & I will see them in Hell (if it exist). Give me an Atheist or a non-Christian any day...they are much more honest, kind, loving & more forgiving. Rarely will you see either of those people look down his/her nose at you.

Unob,

So all church goers have to be perfect and all atheists have no rules? Who ever said a person in church was Holy?

Semi,

If the atheists and non Christian are more forgiving, then why do they keep looking down on the relgious folks?  They have a serious problem with the 'tolerant' issue. As for Hell, why do you think you will go there? Have you decided which side of the fence you are on yet?

I'm going to be a little blunt here so bear with me. I've seen men get aroused by looking at a half dressed attractive woman. I don't know about all men but when they get aroused, that's usually because they have a sexual attraction for that woman. That arousal & that sexual attraction usually means they have only one thing on their mind.

When I was a single woman, I went to a couple of Chippendale shows & you can lay a hand on them as in putting money in their G string. 

My husband would not be happy with me going to one. Not because I'm his servant but because it wouldn't make him feel good. Just as I wouldn't want him looking at Playboy. If he wants to look at a naked woman, I'm willing to accommodate him & he knows it. I don’t want him looking at a magazine of nude women, getting turned on & then coming to me for satisfaction. That won’t get it with this woman. 

If they look down on religious folks, it's usually because those religious folks judge them so harshly, for example, like Bill Gray does. He's one of those religious folk that make you want to run the other way. If he is an example of what God meant a Christian to be, then I don't want any part of it.

It's not easy to be tolerant of someone that treats you like you're stupid. An Atheist has as much right to their views/opinions as a Christian does.

Why will I go to Hell? I don't believe in Once Saved, Always Saved. If I don't live the way the Bible teaches, then I sure won't go to Heaven. That leaves only one other place to go.

As for the fence...I'm still sitting on it. When a person is confused & can't find the answers, they just keep sitting there. I had much rather sit on that fence than be lukewarm.

Since this thread kind of started out with possible eateries coming to this area, my vote is for a Golden Corral. In the past someone mentioned in the forum that they saw something to do with Golden Corral looking for employees in this area. Has anyone heard any more about this possibility of one coming here? Just wondering......

The food is awful at the Hooter's in Huntsville.

Huntsville is dead after 9PM.  Any restaurant you go into, except Hooters, is vacuuming and putting the chairs on the tables.  Hooters has decent wings.  I like mine hot and naked. 

No B50.  That is not what I said at all.  You have an amazing ability to ignore the point.

My point is that the ONLY difference between the "morality" of an atheist and the morality of a Christian is hypocrisy.  I have no qualms at all about going to Hooters.  When I was in church, I was always hoping no one from church would see me there (or at a liquor store or in a casino) but, if they did, they were there, too.  It was an interesting dilemma.

I now do not have that uncomfortable feeling.  I am who I am.  I do not see Hooters (or a liquor store or casino) as a negative.  Evolution took millions of years to compel me to ogle a good looking woman.  Women evolved of millions of years to (generally) enjoy having men ogle them (under appropriate conditions and, yes, someone will take this the wrong way).  So Hooters is a win/win for everyone.

What in the hell is NOT to like about watching a good game, drinking draught beer being served by a good looking woman?  "Lust" be dammned, there is NOTHING wrong with that.
 

I don't think Unob meant that all people who go to church should be perfect. That's impossible, though some, like Bill Gray, thinks they are perfect. Church is full of sinners, & that's what bothers me about them. Those so called "Christians" warming a church bench. They live just like a sinner thru the week, doing all those things a Christian shouldn't, but let those church doors open & they instantly become a Christian. I would imagine God ain't to happy with those folks.

 A Christian is to “take up your cross and follow him” (Luke 9:23). One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus, & is a fully devoted follower of Jesus. You may believe all that is coverd under the 10 Commandments & the Golden Rule but I think it involves much more than that. 

i see your point, but different strokes for different folks.

but being ' aroused' by someone isn't the same thing as 'lust in the heart'.

due to purely physiological reaction, some men become ' aroused' at a proctologists during an exam. that doesn't make him g a y.

if a guy goes to a strip club, gets aroused watching the girls, then goes to a movie or a ball game or something, that's not a lustful heart. if the same *** goes to the same club everynight to see a certain girl, over and over, and always get lapdances form her and always tries to talk her into a little 'extra'.

that's a lustful heart.

and yes.. you *can* lay hands on the chippendales guys... i have no worries that my wife would.

there is no doubt in my mind -  she would never do anything that would hurt me. so, because i know she never would, i don't worry about if she goes to someplace like that.

the last time the wife and i were in huntsville, we went to hooters, and she deeply enjoyed the crablegs, and i loved the steamed oysters, and we both enjoyed the wings a whole lot.

we also played a game, to see if we could guess whether or not they were real or fake. i don't know if we were ever right, but it was fun. it was also her idea

me.. ( and she) aren't interested in what starts the fire, as long as we enjoy the warmth together

maybe it's a scene from a movie.. maybe it's a chapter in a book... maybe it's johnny depp or angelina jolie doing pretty much anything... maybe it's a memory from years and years ago... or something someone tells you at work...

/shrug. i don't care the reason behind her idea of jumping me, as long as i get jumped

btw- i read the articles.

granted, if it wern't for the pictures, i wouldn't buy the magazine, but i DO read the articles.

she usually does as well.

Hooter's food is really not that good. It is just okay in my opinion. I missed something. Are Christians  not allowed to eat wings?

Nagel my man. I am in shock and awe. Tell me you don't know anyone that gets aroused during a prostate exam.

well.. no, i don't... it's been written about here and there. i've seen people admit it, asking ' am i g a y now?" .. that kinda thing.. to be honest, i'm not sure if i know any one who's had the exam at all. it's typicaly not something that comes up in day to day conversation.

" hey bro, what you doin later?" 

" ahh i'ma go let some doc stick his hand up muh butt... you?

" oo.. i think i'm going to lowes. you need anything?"

" yeah.. bring me a tub of axle grease, some white silicone lube, some depends and box of aloe diaper wipes and a a case of whiskey 'cos i'ma need it when i get home."

unless you're a comedian.. robin williams and rodney carrington do a whole schtick about it.. both are hysterical....

semi, unless I've missed it, the group to whom you directed your question...Christian men...did not answer?   Either they've left the forums or something very interesting about human nature is at work...dunno.

I'd say protecting your marriage by avoiding hooters, restaurant or otherwise...bahaha, is a good plan.  Just my opinion, but I think(?) the warnings regarding lust in the Bible are a safe-guard for marriage.  Nobody leaves the house thinking "I'm going to commit adultery and destroy my marriage today."  It starts out small and seemingly harmless.  It's a common sense warning...like the warnings about alcohol.  The Bible doesn't forbid the consumption, just warns to not be habitually drunk.  That's a common sense warning to avoid alcoholism.

JMHO

Maybe the Christian men of the forum find the topic ridiculous. If you look close there are some Christian men who answered.

  You are correct, wright...I did miss a couple.

I guess they could find the subject ridiculous, but I don't understand why. Is this a man thing?...you know like private vs. telling everything or "let's talk this out, share our feelings" vs. "let's not & say we did"? 

I also see your point but lust means an intense or unbridled sexual desire & an intense longing. I want to start the fire. I wouldn't enjoy the warmth with my husband if another woman started the fire.

I'm sure he would feel the same if another man started the fire within me. I'll have to ask & see what he says.

I would never disrespect my husband by going to see a Chippendale show, or looking at a Playgirl magazine & he knows that. I know he wouldn't disrespect me by going to Hooters (because he knows I wouldn't want him to go) or looking at a Playboy magazine. Of course, he might feel differently if he wasn't a Christian man but I don't think so.

Why would this topic be anymore ridiculous than any other warning in the Bible that has been discussed on here?

In reality men are visual people. I personally would rather see a good game or fight before some of the servers I have seen at Hooters. But if my wife and I feel differently than others about the issue that is our choice. I think some people just have different standards. I wish my wife would go to a Chippendale's show so I could get a night away from reality television.

  I love reality TV. Maybe another TV in another room?