https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0...nathan-phillips.html

They were Catholic high school students who came to Washington on a field trip to rally at the March for Life.

He was a Native American veteran of the Vietnam War who was there to raise awareness at the Indigenous Peoples March.

They intersected on Friday in an unsettling encounter outside the Lincoln Memorial — a throng of cheering and jeering high school boys, predominantly white and wearing “Make America Great Again” gear, surrounding a Native American elder.

The episode was being investigated and the students could face punishment, up to and including expulsion, their school said in a statement on Saturday afternoon.

In video footage that was shared widely on social media, one boy, wearing the red hat that has become a signature of President Trump, stood directly in front of the elder, who stared impassively ahead while playing a ceremonial drum.

Some boys in the group wore clothing associated with Covington Catholic High School, an all-male college preparatory school in Park Hills, Ky., near Cincinnati.


“It was getting ugly, and I was thinking: ‘I’ve got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial,’” Mr. Phillips told The Post. “I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.”

In a video by Kaya Taitano, posted to Instagram, Mr. Phillips stood outside the Lincoln Memorial and wiped his eyes. “I heard them saying ‘Build that wall! Build that wall!’” he said. “This is indigenous land. We’re not supposed to have walls here.”

Darren Thompson, an organizer for the Indigenous Peoples March, said that the all-day event on Friday, which started with a prayer outside the Bureau of Indian Affairs and ended with a rally outside the Lincoln Memorial, was meant to raise awareness about Native Americans and other indigenous groups around the world. A few thousand people attended the march to show that “we are still here and we still have issues we are raising and are concerned about,” he said.

The exchange between the students and Mr. Phillips “clearly demonstrates the validity of our concerns,” Mr. Thompson said, who added that “traditional knowledge is being ignored by those who should listen most closely.”

But in its statement, the Indigenous Peoples Movement also said that there was more to the rally at steps of the Lincoln Memorial — and the encounter with the high school students — than was shown in the videos.

“What is not being shown on the video is that the same youth and a few others became emotional because of the power, resilience and love we inherently carry in our DNA,” another organizer, Nathalie Farfan, said. “Our day on those steps ended with a round dance, while we chanted, ‘We are still here.’”

Alison Lundergan Grimes, Kentucky’s Democratic secretary of state who graduated from a Catholic high school, said in statements on social media that she was alarmed to see the students from her state taunting and harassing Mr. Phillips.

“In spite of these horrific scenes, I refuse to shame and solely blame these children for this type of behavior,” she said. “Instead, I turn to the adults.”

She called on Covington Catholic to denounce the behavior. “Kentucky,” she said, “we are better than this.”

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L. Cranston posted:

From the people who also brought you Mitch McConnell.

Yep.  mcconnell wouldn't allow any bill to be voted on to open the government.  They waited till the democrats took control of the house.  Now the maga hats are going to blame the shutdown on pelosi, schumer, and democrats. Create a crisis, blame the democrats, to take credit for ending a crisis... 

There is more to this story than was reported.  Breitbart carries a video showing it was the drummer who marched over to the Catholic school boys and beat the drum next to the MAGA hat wearing kid.  Those accompanying the drummer sound like they were the ones taunting the kids.  

https://www.breitbart.com/the-...-to-native-american/

Cartoonist Scott Adams (Dilbert) originally berated the high school kids, until he viewed the video.  He's apologized and blamed CNN as a purveyor of fake news (sound familiar). 

Naio posted:
L. Cranston posted:

From the people who also brought you Mitch McConnell.

Yep.  mcconnell wouldn't allow any bill to be voted on to open the government.  They waited till the democrats took control of the house.  Now the maga hats are going to blame the shutdown on pelosi, schumer, and democrats. Create a crisis, blame the democrats, to take credit for ending a crisis... 

The Senate approved five bills, which Trump signed allowing about 75 percent of the government to open. 

direstraits posted:

We are now truly in the middle of the Crazy Years. Where truth is considered a subversive activity. 

Yep, the world has become a Mel Brooks script, insanity rules. In this bizarro world, it's perfectly fine if adults are childish but children of a hated demographic are expected to be far wiser than the adults. From what I've seen, that smiling boy deserves an apology, not the drum beating provocateur.

direstraits posted:

Remember your history, most lynch mobs were Democrats.  Lincoln and MLK were Republicans.  Their assassins were Democrats. 

Yes, but dems did get clever in the 60s. The violent white labor racists, the exploitative business racists, and the "White Man's burden" patronizing racists all came together with a welfare system that made all of them happy. Blacks were pulled out of the workforce  which inflated wages for white unionists. Black folks were used as the pass through for Welfare check money and other subsidies for racist democrat crony capitalists and the patronizing racists got more people to feel superior to. I don't believe either MLK or Frederick Douglass would approve.

1130 posted:

here is longer video,, Naio,,, I am waiting for you to start a new post apologizing.  for your hate.    just another attack of President Trump, America, white people with false information.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...wz7n?ocid=spartanntp

 

Apologize for what?  I just posted an article.  If you can't see the irony of teens from a catholic high school wearing maga hats in front of a Native American, that's on you. 

Stanky posted:
direstraits posted:

We are now truly in the middle of the Crazy Years. Where truth is considered a subversive activity. 

Yep, the world has become a Mel Brooks script, insanity rules. In this bizarro world, it's perfectly fine if adults are childish but children of a hated demographic are expected to be far wiser than the adults. From what I've seen, that smiling boy deserves an apology, not the drum beating provocateur.

Our country is being run by a childish adult. I'm hoping the children will do better than us.

Stanky posted:
direstraits posted:

Remember your history, most lynch mobs were Democrats.  Lincoln and MLK were Republicans.  Their assassins were Democrats. 

Yes, but dems did get clever in the 60s. The violent white labor racists, the exploitative business racists, and the "White Man's burden" patronizing racists all came together with a welfare system that made all of them happy. Blacks were pulled out of the workforce  which inflated wages for white unionists. Black folks were used as the pass through for Welfare check money and other subsidies for racist democrat crony capitalists and the patronizing racists got more people to feel superior to. I don't believe either MLK or Frederick Douglass would approve.

Neither one would approve of today's republican party.

Naio posted:
Stanky posted:
direstraits posted:

We are now truly in the middle of the Crazy Years. Where truth is considered a subversive activity. 

Yep, the world has become a Mel Brooks script, insanity rules. In this bizarro world, it's perfectly fine if adults are childish but children of a hated demographic are expected to be far wiser than the adults. From what I've seen, that smiling boy deserves an apology, not the drum beating provocateur.

Our country is being run by a childish adult. I'm hoping the children will do better than us.

We got rid of the most incompetent administration in history over two years ago. Republicans warned that an academic with no executive experience was a mistake.  Which with the worst economic recovery in over 100 years and a doubled national debt proved true.  Worse than Carter.  But, probably not quite as bad as President Wilson -- progressive, racist Democrat. 

Naio posted:
Stanky posted:
direstraits posted:

We are now truly in the middle of the Crazy Years. Where truth is considered a subversive activity. 

Yep, the world has become a Mel Brooks script, insanity rules. In this bizarro world, it's perfectly fine if adults are childish but children of a hated demographic are expected to be far wiser than the adults. From what I've seen, that smiling boy deserves an apology, not the drum beating provocateur.

Our country is being run by a childish adult. I'm hoping the children will do better than us.

My daughter is in college taking biomedical engineering and would disagree with you, she has no time for the ultra liberal left.  The childish adults are the democrats especially the ones in Washington.

HIFLYER2 posted:
Naio posted:
Stanky posted:
direstraits posted:

We are now truly in the middle of the Crazy Years. Where truth is considered a subversive activity. 

Yep, the world has become a Mel Brooks script, insanity rules. In this bizarro world, it's perfectly fine if adults are childish but children of a hated demographic are expected to be far wiser than the adults. From what I've seen, that smiling boy deserves an apology, not the drum beating provocateur.

Our country is being run by a childish adult. I'm hoping the children will do better than us.

My daughter is in college taking biomedical engineering and would disagree with you, she has no time for the ultra liberal left.  The childish adults are the democrats especially the ones in Washington.

Good for her. Am I supposed to be impressed or intimidated by that?  I don't have patience for the ultra liberal left or the far right nutjobs, especially the ones in Washington. 

Naio posted:
Stanky posted:
direstraits posted:

Remember your history, most lynch mobs were Democrats.  Lincoln and MLK were Republicans.  Their assassins were Democrats. 

Yes, but dems did get clever in the 60s. The violent white labor racists, the exploitative business racists, and the "White Man's burden" patronizing racists all came together with a welfare system that made all of them happy. Blacks were pulled out of the workforce  which inflated wages for white unionists. Black folks were used as the pass through for Welfare check money and other subsidies for racist democrat crony capitalists and the patronizing racists got more people to feel superior to. I don't believe either MLK or Frederick Douglass would approve.

Neither one would approve of today's republican party.

Not sure about MLK but Frederick Douglass would probably be apoplectic at modern Republicans since they aren't calling for an immediate abolition of 20th Century slavery. I believe his answer for "What should we do with the freed slaves?" was this:

"Our answer is, do nothing with them; mind your business, and let them mind theirs. Your doing with them is their greatest misfortune. They have been undone by your doings, and all they now ask, and really have need of at your hands, is just to let them alone. They suffer by every interference, and succeed best by being let alone."

https://rbscp.lib.rochester.edu/4386

Martin Luther King Jr. would be 89 today if he was still alive.  He would disapprove of "maga." And the right wing would disapprove of him.

http://amster****ews.com/news/...-i-am-integrating-m/

As the nation prepares to observe Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s legacy this upcoming Monday, a closer look is taken at his fearless freedom struggles.

Born Jan. 15, 1929, in Atlanta, he followed in his father’s footsteps as a devout church-going leader in his community.

After being spotlighted in the Montgomery Bus Boycott during 1955/56, the young Baptist minister motivated hundreds of thousands nationwide to protest peacefully against the overt racism that has been so prevalent in this country since its inception.

He continued utilizing non-violence as a means when he led the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, Aug. 28, 1963, and continued being an advocate of non-violence until his April 4, 1968 assassination in Memphis, Tenn.

However, during the later stages of his life, the peaceful preacher began to incorporate other strategies to attain the same measures.

“Urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomena,” King suggested during his “Role of the Behavioral Scientist in the Civil Rights Movement” dissertation at the American Psychology Associations’ annual convention in Washington, D.C, on Sept. 1, 1967. “They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood. Urban riots are a special form of violence. They are not insurrections. The rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions. They are mainly intended to shock the [Caucasian] community. They are a distorted form of social protest. The looting, which is their principal feature, serves many functions.”

He added, “Let us say boldly that if the violations of law by the [Caucasian] man in the slums over the years were calculated and compared with the law-breaking of a few days of riots, the hardened criminal would be the [Caucasian] man. These are often difficult things to say, but I have come to see more and more that it is necessary to utter the truth in order to deal with the great problems that we face in our society.”

Actor/activist, Harry Belafonte, shared a similar moment about his friend. “Midway through the Civil Rights Movement, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. realized that the struggle for integration would ultimately become a struggle for economic rights,” Belafonte reflected. “I remember the last time we were together, at my home, shortly before he was murdered. He seemed quite agitated and preoccupied, and I asked him what the problem was?”

According to Belafonte, King responded, “I’ve come upon something that disturbs me deeply. We have fought hard and long for integration, as I believe we should have, and I know we will win, but I have come to believe that we are integrating into a burning house. I’m afraid that America has lost the moral vision she may have had, and I’m afraid that even as we integrate, we are walking into a place that does not understand that this nation needs to be deeply concerned with the plight of the poor and disenfranchised. Until we commit ourselves to ensuring that the underclass is given justice and opportunity, we will continue to perpetuate the anger and violence that tears the soul of this nation. I fear I am integrating my people into a burning house.”

Belafonte added, “That statement took me aback. It was the last thing I would have expected to hear, considering the nature of our struggle.”

Belafonte said he asked King, “What should we do?” and King replied that we should, “become the firemen.” King said, “Let us not stand by and let the house burn.”

Five decades later, and the burning house, America, is still engulfed in flames, and millions of its unwitting victims are in dire need of first aid treatment.

 

The kids went to DC to participate in the Right to Life march.  They were observing the Indigenous People's march.  That's it.  First,  a religious cult, the Black Hebrew Israelites, approached them, shouting obscenities. Then, Nathan Phillips approached them drumming.  The kids started nothing.  

On Twitter, people called for doxing the kids, assaulting them and even killing them.  Conservatives, pay attention.  You've got a good glimpse of the left wing's mindset and their nasty souls. 

direstraits posted:

The kids went to DC to participate in the Right to Life march.  They were observing the Indigenous People's march.  That's it.  First,  a religious cult, the Black Hebrew Israelites, approached them, shouting obscenities. Then, Nathan Phillips approached them drumming.  The kids started nothing.  

On Twitter, people called for doxing the kids, assaulting them and even killing them.  Conservatives, pay attention.  You've got a good glimpse of the left wing's mindset and their nasty souls. 

Sources...

Social media is a cesspool.  Too much can rot the brain. 

direstraits posted:
Naio posted:
L. Cranston posted:

Big Question:
Why is a tax exempt private Catholic school sending kids to D.C, with M.A.G.A. caps, to protest legal women's rights?

Good question.

And it is an all boys school, adding more irony to the story.

Need, I add more!

Nope, as we all know by now liberalism is a mental disease and the
disorder is terminal...
Kraven posted:
direstraits posted:
Naio posted:
L. Cranston posted:

Big Question:
Why is a tax exempt private Catholic school sending kids to D.C, with M.A.G.A. caps, to protest legal women's rights?

Good question.

And it is an all boys school, adding more irony to the story.

Need, I add more!

Nope, as we all know by now liberalism is a mental disease and the
disorder is terminal...

speak of the devil...

direstraits posted:
Naio posted:
L. Cranston posted:

Big Question:
Why is a tax exempt private Catholic school sending kids to D.C, with M.A.G.A. caps, to protest legal women's rights?

Good question.

And it is an all boys school, adding more irony to the story.

Need, I add more!

Nope, as we all know by now, liberalism is a mental disease 

Lets see, an all boys Catholic School was in D.C. protesting legal women's rights and yelling their school spirit chants with the permission of chaperones. Sounds like they need to start paying taxes at that school.

 

The student at the center of the Lincoln Memorial incident causing nationwide controversy says.....   the group, who were in Washington, DC, for an anti-abortion rally, began the school spirit chants with the permission of chaperones.

direstraits posted:

I viewed the longer video and saw no obscene gesture.  Nathan Phillips is an agent provocateur who's appears at a number of demonstrations, many times playing the part of the aggrieved.  

Besides the second act at a fraternity, here's he is at a Trump hotel in 2017.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.c...hotel-in-dc-in-2017/

And, an earlier picture at a oil pipeline

FTR. my wife agrees with you. She watched the long video and said the teen's gesture wasn't obscene, just rude. So I'll retract the obscene part. In case any don't know what the hand action meant he was calling Phillips a drunk. Whether that was obscene or not, he should have just ignored the old man and not come across as a spoiled brat. And with all the cameras videoing, why didn't he expect it to be on the Internet?

Dr. John posted:
direstraits posted:

I viewed the longer video and saw no obscene gesture.  Nathan Phillips is an agent provocateur who's appears at a number of demonstrations, many times playing the part of the aggrieved.  

Besides the second act at a fraternity, here's he is at a Trump hotel in 2017.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.c...hotel-in-dc-in-2017/

And, an earlier picture at a oil pipeline

FTR. my wife agrees with you. She watched the long video and said the teen's gesture wasn't obscene, just rude. So I'll retract the obscene part. In case any don't know what the hand action meant he was calling Phillips a drunk. Whether that was obscene or not, he should have just ignored the old man and not come across as a spoiled brat. And with all the cameras videoing, why didn't he expect it to be on the Internet?

The hand action that most of the kids made was the tomahawk chop, used by Atlanta Braves fans and a few other teams that use Indian names.  There is some objection to the gesture, but it's not obscene. 

hmmm Dr. John,,, they were dressed in all black.  what is the school colors?   maybe the black face was going along with the black clothes theme?  I once asked a high school girl why she wore a KKK belt buckle.  She said her grandfather gave it to her.  She didn't realize it was associated with hate.  the point is just because you have a perception doesn't mean that is the person's intent. 

Nathan Phillips, the American Indian Vietnam Vet, may be a stolen honor vet,

"According to multiple news accounts, the activist is 64 years old, which means he would have been 18 years old in 1973, the last year any U.S. combat units were stationed in Vietnam. Mr. Phillips also claims to be a Marine veteran, although the last Marine combat units left Vietnam in 1971."

https://u-s-today.com/nathan-p...-status-in-question/

There was a small Marine contingent at the US embassy until 1975, when the South Vietnamese government fell.

A number of lawyers are offering their services to the students to sue those who spread the false story.  

 

haha   wow Crankston,,,, you are defiantly a democrat filled with hate.   What a stretch, the Parkland students were trying to tell me what I could do and attacking my 2nd amendment rights.   the Catholic kids were first harassed by grown ups, then the media and celebs.  As far as I have seen they have not expressed any views besides walking in a demonstration   Take off your hate glasses and you might see the dif.   Although I know you won't,, I post so those riding the fence can see your bigotry.   

1130 posted:

haha   wow Crankston,,,, you are defiantly a democrat filled with hate.   What a stretch, the Parkland students were trying to tell me what I could do and attacking my 2nd amendment rights.   the Catholic kids were first harassed by grown ups, then the media and celebs.  As far as I have seen they have not expressed any views besides walking in a demonstration   Take off your hate glasses and you might see the dif.   Although I know you won't,, I post so those riding the fence can see your bigotry.   

The Parkland students were taking a stand against being shot. Republicans didn't wanna let kids have a say. Now, Republicans wanna listen to the kids. What changed other than the narrative? 

direstraits posted:

Nathan Phillips, the American Indian Vietnam Vet, may be a stolen honor vet,

"According to multiple news accounts, the activist is 64 years old, which means he would have been 18 years old in 1973, the last year any U.S. combat units were stationed in Vietnam. Mr. Phillips also claims to be a Marine veteran, although the last Marine combat units left Vietnam in 1971."

https://u-s-today.com/nathan-p...-status-in-question/

There was a small Marine contingent at the US embassy until 1975, when the South Vietnamese government fell.

A number of lawyers are offering their services to the students to sue those who spread the false story.  

 

Show us where he claimed to have served in Vietnam.

Dr. John posted:
direstraits posted:

Nathan Phillips, the American Indian Vietnam Vet, may be a stolen honor vet,

"According to multiple news accounts, the activist is 64 years old, which means he would have been 18 years old in 1973, the last year any U.S. combat units were stationed in Vietnam. Mr. Phillips also claims to be a Marine veteran, although the last Marine combat units left Vietnam in 1971."

https://u-s-today.com/nathan-p...-status-in-question/

There was a small Marine contingent at the US embassy until 1975, when the South Vietnamese government fell.

A number of lawyers are offering their services to the students to sue those who spread the false story.  

 

Show us where he claimed to have served in Vietnam.

He's been in and out about it.  The point is that the Democrat Ministry of Propaganda didn't get it right. 

direstraits posted:
Dr. John posted:
direstraits posted:

Nathan Phillips, the American Indian Vietnam Vet, may be a stolen honor vet,

"According to multiple news accounts, the activist is 64 years old, which means he would have been 18 years old in 1973, the last year any U.S. combat units were stationed in Vietnam. Mr. Phillips also claims to be a Marine veteran, although the last Marine combat units left Vietnam in 1971."

https://u-s-today.com/nathan-p...-status-in-question/

There was a small Marine contingent at the US embassy until 1975, when the South Vietnamese government fell.

A number of lawyers are offering their services to the students to sue those who spread the false story.  

 

Show us where he claimed to have served in Vietnam.

He's been in and out about it.  The point is that the Democrat Ministry of Propaganda didn't get it right. 

So, in other words, you can't produce a link and it's the Democrat's fault.

Dr. John posted:

My cousin went into the Army in '69 just out of high school. He was sent somewhere much worse than Vietnam, but I've always heard him say he served in that era. Big difference in the two statements. That's if one can read.

Phillips weasel worded his service record.

"He raised a wooden staff adorned with nine eagle feathers in the air as he addressed his security team, volunteers who had stepped back into familiar roles guarding gates at camp. They were outfitted in head-to-toe camouflage, masked by bandanas printed with the word Resist, and bearing walkie-talkies. “I have a relative here who said he’d lead the way and scout ahead for us,” Phillips continued, his voice breaking. “You know, I’m from Vietnam times. I’m what they call a recon ranger. That was my role. So I thank you for taking that point position for me.”

https://www.democraticunderground.org/100211698735

Recon ranger -- there is no such designation in the Marines.  Rangers are US Army troops -- the 75th Infantry Regiment (Ranger) to be specific.

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