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Remember when Democrats said that voter fraud was non-existent.  Then, said it was a minor problem?  Yes, they did what Democrats do  -- they lied!

AG Paxton: Texas Secretary of State’s Office Discovers Nearly 95,000 People Identified by DPS as Non-U.S. Citizens are Registered to Vote in Texas

AUSTIN – Attorney General Ken Paxton today issued the following statement after the Secretary of State’s office discovered that about 95,000 individuals identified by the Department of Public Safety as non-U.S. citizens have a matching voter registration record in Texas, and roughly 58,000 of them have voted in one or more Texas elections:

http://thenortheasttexan.com/2...aud-texas-elections/

There were predictions Texas was turning blue from refugees leaving California.  Wrong direction, they weren't coming from the west, but from the south. 

 

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Lawful noncitizens: driver’s license is ok, voting is illegal

Texas law allows lawfully present non-citizens to obtain driver’s licenses by showing proof of lawful presence to DPS. However, only citizens are eligible to vote. And Texas law currently does not require verification of a voter’s statement that they are a citizen. The Texas Secretary of State provided the information to the Office of the Attorney General this week, which has concurrent jurisdiction to prosecute election crimes.

http://thenortheasttexan.com/2...aud-texas-elections/

Red state blames dems for voter fraud...


https://www.texastribune.org/2...p;utm_source=twitter

In an advisory released Friday afternoon, the office said it was flagging individuals who had provided the Texas Department of Public Safety with some form of documentation — including a work visa or a green card — that showed they were not a citizen when they were obtaining a driver’s license or an ID card. Among the individuals flagged, about 58,000 individuals cast a ballot in one or more elections from 1996 to 2018, the secretary of state's office said.

It’s unclear exactly how many of those individuals are not actually U.S. citizens and whether that number will be available in the future. In its notice to counties, the secretary of state's office said the names should be considered "WEAK" matches, using all capital letters for emphasis.

That means counties may now choose to investigate the eligibility of the individuals who were flagged, which would require them to send a notice asking for proof of citizenship within 30 days, or take no action. By law, the counties aren't allowed to automatically revoke a voter's registration without sending out such a notice.

It's possible that individuals flagged by the state — who provided DPS with documentation that indicated they were authorized to be in the country — could have become naturalized citizens since they obtained their driver's license or ID card. A spokesman for the secretary of state said officials are "very confident" that the data received from DPS is "current."

In announcing the review of the rolls, Secretary of State David Whitley — who was appointed to the post last month after serving as deputy chief of staff to Republican Gov. Greg Abbott — immediately handed the data over to the Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, a Republican who said his office will "spare no effort in assisting with these troubling cases."

But without additional verification, you can't say these individuals all engaged in illegal voting, said Chris Davis, the head of the Texas Association of Elections Administrators.

"People get naturalized," Davis said. "It's entirely too early to say that."

The numbers were released just a few weeks into a legislative session during which lawmakers may take up proposals to require some form of citizenship verification before registering to vote. The U.S. Supreme Court in 2013 rejected states' efforts to require proof of citizenship to register to vote. Other federal courts have knocked more recent efforts.


In a state where about 15.8 million Texans are registered to vote, the AG’s office has recently pursued a small number of convictions of illegal voting by non-citizens. Past reviews of the voter rolls by other states ultimately found that only a small number of the thousands of non-citizens they initially flagged had actually voted. For years, researchers have found that voter fraud is rare and claims that non-citizens are voting in large numbers have not been substantiated.

Naio posted:
Lawful noncitizens: driver’s license is ok, voting is illegal

Texas law allows lawfully present non-citizens to obtain driver’s licenses by showing proof of lawful presence to DPS. However, only citizens are eligible to vote. And Texas law currently does not require verification of a voter’s statement that they are a citizen. The Texas Secretary of State provided the information to the Office of the Attorney General this week, which has concurrent jurisdiction to prosecute election crimes.

http://thenortheasttexan.com/2...aud-texas-elections/

Red state blames dems for voter fraud...


https://www.texastribune.org/2...p;utm_source=twitter

In an advisory released Friday afternoon, the office said it was flagging individuals who had provided the Texas Department of Public Safety with some form of documentation — including a work visa or a green card — that showed they were not a citizen when they were obtaining a driver’s license or an ID card. Among the individuals flagged, about 58,000 individuals cast a ballot in one or more elections from 1996 to 2018, the secretary of state's office said.

It’s unclear exactly how many of those individuals are not actually U.S. citizens and whether that number will be available in the future. In its notice to counties, the secretary of state's office said the names should be considered "WEAK" matches, using all capital letters for emphasis.

That means counties may now choose to investigate the eligibility of the individuals who were flagged, which would require them to send a notice asking for proof of citizenship within 30 days, or take no action. By law, the counties aren't allowed to automatically revoke a voter's registration without sending out such a notice.

It's possible that individuals flagged by the state — who provided DPS with documentation that indicated they were authorized to be in the country — could have become naturalized citizens since they obtained their driver's license or ID card. A spokesman for the secretary of state said officials are "very confident" that the data received from DPS is "current."

In announcing the review of the rolls, Secretary of State David Whitley — who was appointed to the post last month after serving as deputy chief of staff to Republican Gov. Greg Abbott — immediately handed the data over to the Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, a Republican who said his office will "spare no effort in assisting with these troubling cases."

But without additional verification, you can't say these individuals all engaged in illegal voting, said Chris Davis, the head of the Texas Association of Elections Administrators.

"People get naturalized," Davis said. "It's entirely too early to say that."

The numbers were released just a few weeks into a legislative session during which lawmakers may take up proposals to require some form of citizenship verification before registering to vote. The U.S. Supreme Court in 2013 rejected states' efforts to require proof of citizenship to register to vote. Other federal courts have knocked more recent efforts.


In a state where about 15.8 million Texans are registered to vote, the AG’s office has recently pursued a small number of convictions of illegal voting by non-citizens. Past reviews of the voter rolls by other states ultimately found that only a small number of the thousands of non-citizens they initially flagged had actually voted. For years, researchers have found that voter fraud is rare and claims that non-citizens are voting in large numbers have not been substantiated.

Nice try, no cigar!  Still, no proof that non-citizens didn't vote.  That SCOTUS didn't allow states to require proof of citizenship is hardly comforting.  That's why provisional ballots are now offered.

California has the same policy of issuing drivers licenses to non-citizens, legal and illegal.  Then, fighting in the courts against review of their voter rolls. 

 

Now, California is brought to reveal their voter fraud.

"Judicial Watch announced today that it signed a settlement agreement with the State of California and County of Los Angeles under which they will begin the process of removing from their voter registration rolls as many as 1.5 million inactive registered names that may be invalid. These removals are required by the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA).

The NVRA is a federal law requiring the removal of inactive registrations from the voter rolls after two general federal elections (encompassing from 2 to 4 years). Inactive voter registrations belong, for the most part, to voters who have moved to another county or state or have passed away.

Los Angeles County has over 10 million residents, more than the populations of 41 of the 50 United States. California is America’s largest state, with almost 40 million residents.

Judicial Watch filed a 2017 federal lawsuit to force the cleanup of voter rolls (Judicial Watch, Inc., et al. v. Dean C. Logan, et al. (No. 2:17-cv-08948)). Judicial Watch sued on its own behalf and on behalf of Wolfgang Kupka, Rhue Guyant, Jerry Griffin, and Delores M. Mars, who are lawfully registered voters in Los Angeles County. Judicial Watch was also joined by Election Integrity Project California, Inc., a public interest group that has long been involved in monitoring California’s voter rolls.

In its lawsuit, Judicial Watch alleged:

  • Los Angeles County has more voter registrations on its voter rolls than it has citizens who are old enough to register.  Specifically, according to data provided to and published by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, Los Angeles County has a registration rate of 112 percent of its adult citizen population.
  • The entire State of California has a registration rate of about 101 percent of its age-eligible citizenry.
  • Eleven of California’s 58 counties have registration rates exceeding 100 percent of the age-eligible citizenry."

More at: http://www.capoliticalreview.c...rs-from-voter-rolls/

Those who voted illegally should be removed from the voter rolls.  Then, removed from the USA.  Voting in the US by an alien, legal and illegal, is a bar to ever gaining citizenship.

For years we're told that the number of illegals is about 10 to 11 million.  A new study indicates the true numbers are from 17 to 22.5 million.

"We apply standard operational principles of inflows and outflows to estimate the number of undocumented immigrants in the United States, using the best available data, including some that has only recently become available. We generate a lower bound for the number of undocumented immigrants using conservative parameter values that underestimate inflows and overestimate outflows. Our lower bound is close to 17 million, 50% higher than the most prominent current estimate of 11.3 million, which is based on survey data and thus different sources and methods. Standard parameter values generate an estimate of 22.8 million undocumented immigrants, twice as large as the current estimate.

BIO: Mohammad Fazel-Zarandi is a Postdoctoral Associate and Lecturer at the Yale School of Management. His research interests are in the areas of Public Sector Operations, Data-Driven Decision Making, Applied Probabilistic Modeling and Statistics, and Operations Strategy. His current research focuses on the application of Operations techniques to improve decision making in the public policy domain. Before joining Yale, he received his PhD from the Rotman School of Management, University of Toronto in Operations Management and his M.Sc. in Industrial Engineering from the University of Toronto."

https://www.isye.gatech.edu/ne...ts/calendar/day/7740

The professor works at Yale, hardly a conservative bastion.  Note the name, as well. 

 

Dr. John posted:
1130 posted:

snopes is a democrat ran organization.   think this way there are millions of illegals in the USA.  58k is not unthinkable.  plus Obama on national TV suggested they vote.

Democrat ran (sic)? Proof?

Start with:

direstraits posted:
Dr. John posted:
1130 posted:

snopes is a democrat ran organization.   think this way there are millions of illegals in the USA.  58k is not unthinkable.  plus Obama on national TV suggested they vote.

Democrat ran (sic)? Proof?

Start with:


Snopes fact checks viral articles and uses their viral status to increase their web traffic. What's wrong with that?

Trump stands accused by 19 women of sexual misconduct and you wanna whine about Snopes? Really? Do Republicans just pick when to be outraged or does the RNC send out a paper to you all? Or do you just take your cues from Fox New Entertainment?

Last edited by L. Cranston
Dr. John posted:
1130 posted:

snopes is a democrat ran organization.   think this way there are millions of illegals in the USA.  58k is not unthinkable.  plus Obama on national TV suggested they vote.

Democrat ran (sic)? Proof?

The standard right wing strategy when confronted with well-documented truth from Snopes or other respected fact-checking sources is to condemn the source (i.e., "kill the messenger") as the alleged tool of George Soros or the Democratic party or some other liberal entity. That is much easier than putting up substance.

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Contendahh posted:
Dr. John posted:
1130 posted:

snopes is a democrat ran organization.   think this way there are millions of illegals in the USA.  58k is not unthinkable.  plus Obama on national TV suggested they vote.

Democrat ran (sic)? Proof?

The standard right wing strategy when confronted with well-documented truth from Snopes or other respected fact-checking sources is to condemn the source (i.e., "kill the messenger") as the alleged tool of George Soros or the Democratic party some other liberal entity. That is much easier than putting up substance.

You do realize the majority of Democrats have never heard of George Soros, right? A Holocaust survivor who's gotta be close to 100 years old.

It doesn't matter how old Schwartz György (Soros) is,

he's not exactly a Holocaust survivor and was no friend of Jews

When the ****s occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros' father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.

I do realize Dems/liberals have never heard much of anything concerning
current world events or anything else outside of the Saul Alinsky handbook.
RiverDance posted:

It doesn't matter how old Schwartz György (Soros) is,

he's not exactly a Holocaust survivor and was no friend of Jews

When the ****s occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros' father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.

I do realize Dems/liberals have never heard much of anything concerning
current world events or anything else outside of the Saul Alinsky handbook.

He has also said how much he enjoyed working for the ****s, and called it "the best time of my life".

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L. Cranston posted:
Contendahh posted:
Dr. John posted:
1130 posted:

snopes is a democrat ran organization.   think this way there are millions of illegals in the USA.  58k is not unthinkable.  plus Obama on national TV suggested they vote.

Democrat ran (sic)? Proof?

The standard right wing strategy when confronted with well-documented truth from Snopes or other respected fact-checking sources is to condemn the source (i.e., "kill the messenger") as the alleged tool of George Soros or the Democratic party some other liberal entity. That is much easier than putting up substance.

You do realize the majority of Democrats have never heard of George Soros, right? A Holocaust survivor who's gotta be close to 100 years old.

Any Democrat who participates in social media political discussions has heard plenty about Soros from the nutjob sector that sees him as the replacement in their alleged adulthood as a worthy successor to the monster under the bed of their childhood fantasies.

giftedamateur posted:
Jutu posted:

He says he was 14. He says he was born in 1930. He would be 89 years old, and if born in 1930 he would have been three when Hitler came into power, and 15 when Hitler died. Hmmmmmmmm

Sometimes it seems like evil lives a long time, and there are few as evil as Soros.

I remember how the left cried about the Koch brothers, but never a peep about this old devil.

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