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I noticed recently in Missouri many closed, empty restaurants. 

 

http://news.yahoo.com/mcdonald...thank-143002095.html

 

 

 

  1. McDonald's reported Monday that November sales declined 2.2 percent around the world for stores that were open in both 2013 and 2014.
  2. The decline was led by a 4.6 percent decline in the US market.
  3. Throughout 2014, McDonald's' sales in US stores have fallen 2.3 percent compared to the previous year.
  4. The company's official release on the matter blamed the decline on "strong competitive activity."

McDonald's is in big trouble

The huge problem for McDonald's right now is that they're flagging in all three of their major geographical segments. In Europe, sales are falling because of the terrible euro zone economy. In the Asia-Pacific region, sales are falling because of scandals that revealed appalling and unsanitary conditions at the plants supplying stores in China and Japan. And in the United States, sales are falling because of increased competition.

If you look outside the United States, and then ignore Europe's awful economy, and then ignore the China/Japan scandals you can see the company's underlying strength. Sales are growing in Australia. They are also growing in the "other countries & corporate" division that oversees Latin America and Canada. Australia is just really small compared to China, and McDonald's does more business in the USA than in the rest of the Western Hemisphere combined.

Chipotle is killing McDonald's

Even though the Europe/China/Japan news is bad for the company's bottom line, those setbacks are all survivable. Europe's economy will, probably, recover some day. (And if it doesn't, that's equally problematic for all global retail brands, not just McDonald's.) The supply-chain issues in Asia are fixable. But the US situation should be terrifying for the company. Competition is hard to fix. And that competition is led right now by Chipotle, Wall Street's hottest fast food company.

Through the end of September, Chipotle opened 132 new restaurants. At the same time, sales in their old restaurants grew 17 percent. There is no sign that America's appetite for giant burritos is anywhere near sated.

And behind Chipotle stand a broad array of other so-called "fast casual" restaurants offering a similar value proposition — fast food service with better-tasting food. Five Guys, In-and-Out Burger, and Shake Shack are all privately held so we don't know their financial details, but they seem to be growing rapidly. And why shouldn't they be? For all of Americans' economic struggles, as a society we are both wealthier and busier than we were a generation ago. Under the circumstances, paying more for tastier food in the quick-service format is a compelling idea and not one that it's clear McDonald's can match.

The global future

McDonald's says it will revive its US operation by "diligently working to enhance its marketing, simplify the menu, and implement a more locally-driven organizational structure to increase relevance with consumers."

Maybe that will work. But it seems unlikely. It's difficult for a company to change what it is, at root. McDonald's has one of the strongest brand identities on earth. People all around the world know exactly what those golden arches stand for. This has been, traditionally, an enormous source of strength for the company. But it becomes a weakness at a time of tougher competition. From theMcDLT to the Arch Deluxe to the Big N' Tasty, McDonald's has always struggled to sell a "premium" burger to the public. It's always been their weak spot, it's just never been a problem before.

The good news for the company is that the problems in Europe (which is poorer than the USA) and Asia (which is much poorer) really will pass, and the Latin American market opportunity will probably continue to grow. The basic McDonald's value proposition that's increasingly unappealing at home continues to be relevant abroad. Upscaling in the United States will be difficult, but continuing to lean in to globalization is perfectly workable. It just means that the long-term future of what is in many ways the iconic American brand doesn't have much to do with the United States.


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Originally Posted by Contendah:

McDonald's should get the death penalty for those dreadful "Chicken McNuggets."  Thiose are the worst-ever perversion of food, even for a "fast-food" enterprise.

I find it crazy how much breading and how little chicken is in the Chicken McNuggets. I quit eating McDonalds because of this and you can get a better burger from Five Guys. Now if only all fast food restaurants had real non-processed chicken. Only a few have this.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

People are so funny. They yap about chicken nuggets but will go into little dives to eat food prepared in who knows what kind of filth and sitting out on buffets put there by illegal aliens! LOL!!

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Well, just stay home in your little food paranoia mode and Clorox your hands before touching anything that goes into your mouth.

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

People are so funny. They yap about chicken nuggets but will go into little dives to eat food prepared in who knows what kind of filth and sitting out on buffets put there by illegal aliens! LOL!!

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Well, just stay home in your little food paranoia mode and Clorox your hands before touching anything that goes into your mouth.

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Hit a nerve? I don't have to go to that extreme because although I do practice cleanliness and careful food handling in my home I don't resort to washing my hands in Clorox, and I am careful when I eat out. I'm not patronizing the nasty, illegal alien using restaurants so I can brag that I got five pounds of buffet food for five dollars. I'm also not the one crying about mcnuggets. So take your own advice, and stay home. You have a problem with one thing but no problem with another. You worry about pigs but have no problem with veal or chickens and eggs.

Last edited by Bestworking
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

People are so funny. They yap about chicken nuggets but will go into little dives to eat food prepared in who knows what kind of filth and sitting out on buffets put there by illegal aliens! LOL!!

Yea, I have been to two of these dives one of which didn't have Coke or Pepsi. But here is two locally owned Restaurants that have good food and service: Homestead in Iuka MS, Waterway Grill in Burnsville MS.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

People are so funny. They yap about chicken nuggets but will go into little dives to eat food prepared in who knows what kind of filth and sitting out on buffets put there by illegal aliens! LOL!!

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Well, just stay home in your little food paranoia mode and Clorox your hands before touching anything that goes into your mouth.

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Hit a nerve? I don't have to go to that extreme because although I do practice cleanliness and careful food handling in my home I don't resort to washing my hands in Clorox, and I am careful when I eat out. I'm not patronizing the nasty, illegal alien using restaurants so I can brag that I got five pounds of buffet food for five dollars. I'm also not the one crying about mcnuggets. So take your own advice, and stay home. You have a problem with one thing but no problem with another. You worry about pigs but have no problem with veal or chickens and eggs.

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You have just made a common error of logic.  You have assumed that because I have elsewhere on referenced only the mistreatment of pigs, I therefore have no concern for mistreatment of other animals.  I am not obligated to expand my posts to embrace every element of a topic (such as mistreatment of farm animals) simply because I decide to comment upon one particular form of abuse of one particular kind of critter. Your concluding sentence therefore has no logical merit.

No error at all. I don't like the mistreatment of ANY animal and I have almost given up eating meat. My hope is we could do away with the horrible conditions for ALL animals. So it is logical to say that you can't worry about one without worrying about all of them. Of course I should have realized your aim was to run down Walmart.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Sonic has two hamburgers.

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I wish they did in my hometown. The menu doesn't list a hamburger, through the speaker, I was told they would hold the cheese, but they still charged for it. There was other types of burgers listed with the magic ingredients in them

Every Sonic I've ever been to you can order what you want and they'll make it for you. I get chili burgers sometimes and they aren't on the menu either. I don't care for their menu burgers at all. 

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

No error at all. I don't like the mistreatment of ANY animal and I have almost given up eating meat. My hope is we could do away with the horrible conditions for ALL animals. So it is logical to say that you can't worry about one without worrying about all of them. Of course I should have realized your aim was to run down Walmart.

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Walmart?  Walmart is nowhere in this string--except maybe in your imagination! Are you providing Bill Gray company in the cognition impairment department?  

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

No error at all. I don't like the mistreatment of ANY animal and I have almost given up eating meat. My hope is we could do away with the horrible conditions for ALL animals. So it is logical to say that you can't worry about one without worrying about all of them. Of course I should have realized your aim was to run down Walmart.

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Walmart?  Walmart is nowhere in this string--except maybe in your imagination! Are you providing Bill Gray company in the cognition impairment department?  

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Maybe it's you that's providing him company. Seems you can't remember your own threads.

 

 

Walmart--Enemy of Pigs!

 https://www.tnvalleytalks.com/t...almart-enemy-of-pigs

 

Last edited by Bestworking

You can't remember your own posts either. Just look on this thread. Earlier you understood exactly what I was referencing.

 

 

 You have just made a common error of logic.  You have assumed that because I have elsewhere on referenced only the mistreatment of pigs, I therefore have no concern for mistreatment of other animals.  I am not obligated to expand my posts to embrace every element of a topic (such as mistreatment of farm animals) simply because I decide to comment upon one particular form of abuse of one particular kind of critter. Your concluding sentence therefore has no logical merit.

 

 

Then right after that you post:

 

Walmart?  Walmart is nowhere in this string--except maybe in your imagination! Are you providing Bill Gray company in the cognition impairment department?  

 

So again I have to say that it's you that is providing bill gray company in the cognition impairment department.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You can't remember your own posts either. Just look on this thread. Earlier you understood exactly what I was referencing.

 

 

 You have just made a common error of logic.  You have assumed that because I have elsewhere on referenced only the mistreatment of pigs, I therefore have no concern for mistreatment of other animals.  I am not obligated to expand my posts to embrace every element of a topic (such as mistreatment of farm animals) simply because I decide to comment upon one particular form of abuse of one particular kind of critter. Your concluding sentence therefore has no logical merit.

 

 

Then right after that you post:

 

Walmart?  Walmart is nowhere in this string--except maybe in your imagination! Are you providing Bill Gray company in the cognition impairment department?  

 

So again I have to say that it's you that is providing bill gray company in the cognition impairment department.

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Again you decline to deal with the FACT  of your own error, which I pointed out to you.  Are you dumb or just being dumb, Best.  It has to be one or the other.

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You can't remember your own posts either. Just look on this thread. Earlier you understood exactly what I was referencing.

 

 

 You have just made a common error of logic.  You have assumed that because I have elsewhere on referenced only the mistreatment of pigs, I therefore have no concern for mistreatment of other animals.  I am not obligated to expand my posts to embrace every element of a topic (such as mistreatment of farm animals) simply because I decide to comment upon one particular form of abuse of one particular kind of critter. Your concluding sentence therefore has no logical merit.

 

 

Then right after that you post:

 

Walmart?  Walmart is nowhere in this string--except maybe in your imagination! Are you providing Bill Gray company in the cognition impairment department?  

 

So again I have to say that it's you that is providing bill gray company in the cognition impairment department.

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Again you decline to deal with the FACT  of your own error, which I pointed out to you.  Are you dumb or just being dumb, Best.  It has to be one or the other.

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Correction:  Are you acting dumb or just being dumb....?

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You can't remember your own posts either. Just look on this thread. Earlier you understood exactly what I was referencing.

 

 

 You have just made a common error of logic.  You have assumed that because I have elsewhere on referenced only the mistreatment of pigs, I therefore have no concern for mistreatment of other animals.  I am not obligated to expand my posts to embrace every element of a topic (such as mistreatment of farm animals) simply because I decide to comment upon one particular form of abuse of one particular kind of critter. Your concluding sentence therefore has no logical merit.

 

 

Then right after that you post:

 

Walmart?  Walmart is nowhere in this string--except maybe in your imagination! Are you providing Bill Gray company in the cognition impairment department?  

 

So again I have to say that it's you that is providing bill gray company in the cognition impairment department.

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Again you decline to deal with the FACT  of your own error, which I pointed out to you.  Are you dumb or just being dumb, Best.  It has to be one or the other.

You've pointed out NO error unless you are speaking of yours.

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You can't remember your own posts either. Just look on this thread. Earlier you understood exactly what I was referencing.

 

 

 You have just made a common error of logic.  You have assumed that because I have elsewhere on referenced only the mistreatment of pigs, I therefore have no concern for mistreatment of other animals.  I am not obligated to expand my posts to embrace every element of a topic (such as mistreatment of farm animals) simply because I decide to comment upon one particular form of abuse of one particular kind of critter. Your concluding sentence therefore has no logical merit.

 

 

Then right after that you post:

 

Walmart?  Walmart is nowhere in this string--except maybe in your imagination! Are you providing Bill Gray company in the cognition impairment department?  

 

So again I have to say that it's you that is providing bill gray company in the cognition impairment department.

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Again you decline to deal with the FACT  of your own error, which I pointed out to you.  Are you dumb or just being dumb, Best.  It has to be one or the other.

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Correction:  Are you acting dumb or just being dumb....?

 Pointing out your pitiful tries at redeeming yourself. You fail.

Last edited by Bestworking

Be it my own opinion, as that is, I think the decline of McDonalds started when they started caring more about the politically correct and health food folks and completely tried to change up their menu and the way they prepared and cooked things.    It may be that the food has a few less calories and is a little less fattening but where McDonalds used to have hands down the best fries anywhere now I can't, or won't, say the same.   I'm not saying that McDonalds doesn't have good fries for they are still good but, again my own opinion, they aren't of the caliber that they used to be.  

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You can't remember your own posts either. Just look on this thread. Earlier you understood exactly what I was referencing.

 

 

 You have just made a common error of logic.  You have assumed that because I have elsewhere on referenced only the mistreatment of pigs, I therefore have no concern for mistreatment of other animals.  I am not obligated to expand my posts to embrace every element of a topic (such as mistreatment of farm animals) simply because I decide to comment upon one particular form of abuse of one particular kind of critter. Your concluding sentence therefore has no logical merit.

 

 

Then right after that you post:

 

Walmart?  Walmart is nowhere in this string--except maybe in your imagination! Are you providing Bill Gray company in the cognition impairment department?  

 

So again I have to say that it's you that is providing bill gray company in the cognition impairment department.

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Again you decline to deal with the FACT  of your own error, which I pointed out to you.  Are you dumb or just being dumb, Best.  It has to be one or the other.

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Correction:  Are you acting dumb or just being dumb....?

 Pointing out your pitiful tries at redeeming yourself. You fail.

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Actually, Best, if you wished for Walmart to be brought into consideration in THIS string, you should have mentioned Walmart overtly  rather than leaving it to us to connect your reference to "pigs" to something you had said in an earlier post that might have included Walmart.  You should not assume that other  forum participants religiously catalog your blithering contributions in some sort of indexing fashion that  provides cross-referencing to every topic and entry you contaminate this forum with.

imo, 5 guys is the only chain restaurant that has a great burger in florence. the other 'top' restaurants for a burger in florence are all downtown.

i had a burger from steak n stuff last night. it was the best burger i have had in a long time. other great burgers can be found at on the rocks, flobama, legends, poplar south cafe and staggs.

 

I eat out at fast food one or twice a week for breakfast and lunch, I'd recommend MickeyDs sausage burrito and hot mochas. And, Hardee's biscuits --- jelly and country ham.  Five Guys is my favorite for just a burger.  However, I tried McDs artisanal chicken and third pound burger (steakhouse).  They were better than most of their other products.

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