Medical Furlough Act.. Please say No !!

They already do this in most cases.

A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT

To establish a procedure for the discretionary medical furlough of state inmates convicted on non-capital felony offenses.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF ALABAMA:

Section 1. This act shall be known as the "Alabama Medical Furlough Act."

Section 2. For purposes of this act, the following words shall have the following meanings:

(1) COMMISSIONER. The Commissioner of the Department of Corrections.

(2) DEPARTMENT. The Department of Corrections.

(3) GERIATRIC INMATE. A person 55 years of age or older convicted in this state of a non-capital felony offense and sentenced to the penitentiary, who suffers from a chronic life-threatening infirmity, life-threatening illness, or chronic debilitating disease related to aging, who poses a low risk to the community, and who does not constitute a danger to himself or herself or society.

(4) PERMANENTLY INCAPACITATED INMATE. A state inmate convicted of a non-capital felony offense and sentenced to the penitentiary who does not constitute a danger to himself or herself or society, and who, by reason of an existing medical condition which is not terminal, is permanently and irreversibly incapacitated, and as a result of the medical or mental condition requires immediate and long-term residential care.

(5) TERMINALLY ILL INMATE. A person convicted of a non-capital felony offense who is sentenced to the penitentiary and who has an incurable condition caused by illness or disease which would, with reasonable medical judgment, produce death within 12 months, and who does not constitute a danger to himself or herself or society.

Section 3. (a) No physical or medical condition that existed at the time of sentencing shall provide the basis for medical furlough under this act, unless the inmate has become permanently incapacitated or terminally ill after the date of sentencing. In considering an inmate's eligibility for medical furlough, the department shall take into consideration the age of the inmate at the time the crime was committed.

(b) No inmate shall be considered for medical furlough unless the inmate consents in writing to the release after a written explanation of the inmate's medical needs and the availability of medical services, unless the inmate is not capable of consent as determined by a medical professional.

(c) No inmate shall be considered for medical furlough unless he or she would be Medicaid or Medicare eligible at the time of release or a member of the inmate's family agrees in writing to assume financial responsibility for the inmate, including, but not limited to, the medical needs of the inmate.

Section 4. (a) The department shall establish a medical furlough program. The commissioner shall adopt the rules and regulations for implementation of the medical furlough program. For each person considered for medical furlough, the commissioner shall determine whether the person is a geriatric inmate, permanently incapacitated inmate, or terminally ill inmate.

(b) Notwithstanding any other law to the contrary, an inmate who has not served his or her minimum sentence shall be considered eligible for consideration for furlough under this act.

(c) This act shall not apply to inmates convicted of capital murder.

(d) Medical furlough consideration shall be in addition to any other release for which an inmate may be eligible.

(e) The commissioner shall determine the conditions of release of any inmate pursuant to this act, including the appropriate level of supervision of the inmate, and shall develop a discharge plan for each inmate released under this act. Prior to the commissioner granting any release based on the appropriate medical documentation pursuant to subsection (b) of Section 5, employees of the department shall contact appropriate departments and agencies, which may include, but shall not be limited to, the Department of Public Health, the Department of Human Resources, Medicare, Medicaid, hospice organizations, or other public and nonprofit community service agencies as the commissioner may deem necessary for consultation in developing an appropriate discharge plan, and to confirm that required care and resources are available to meet the inmate's needs. This act is not intended to expand or create new responsibilities for public agencies for arranging and providing care.

(f) In considering an inmate for medical furlough, the department may request that additional medical evidence be produced, or that additional medical examinations be conducted.

(g) Except as provided herein, the furlough of an inmate on medical furlough shall be for the remainder of the inmate's sentence. In addition to terms and conditions prescribed by the department, supervision of an inmate on medical furlough shall at a minimum consist of biannual medical evaluations by a medical care provider at intervals to be determined by the commissioner at the time of release.

(h) If the medical condition of an inmate released pursuant to this act should improve to the extent that he or she no longer meets the criteria by which he or she was released, or if he or she violates a condition of release or becomes a danger to himself or herself or others, the commissioner shall revoke the furlough.

(i) The commissioner shall report annually to the Joint Legislative Interim Prison Committee, House Judiciary Sentencing Commission Subcommittee, and the Alabama Sentencing Commission on the number of applications for medical furlough, the nature of the illnesses, diseases, and conditions of the applicants, the number of inmates granted and denied release, and the number of persons on medical furlough who have been returned to the custody of the department.

Section 5. (a) An inmate, or any concerned person, including, but not limited to, the inmate's attorney, family, physician, or an employee or official of the department may initiate consideration for medical furlough by submitting to the department an initial medical release application form along with supporting documentation.

(b) The initial application form shall include the report of a physician or physicians employed by the department or its health care provider and a notarized report of at least one other duly licensed physician who is board certified in the field of medicine for which the inmate is seeking a medical furlough and who is not an employee of the ADOC. These reports shall each be of the opinion that the inmate is either terminally ill, permanently incapacitated, or that the inmate suffers from a chronic infirmity, illness, or disease related to aging. The commissioner shall provide the initial application and medical authorization forms to all department medical care providers, and the forms shall be available at every correctional facility for distribution to inmates.

(c) Consideration for medical furlough shall be initiated by the submission of an application from the department, the inmate, or the inmate's representative, along with the department's supporting documentation to the commissioner.

(d) If the appropriate medical documentation pursuant to subsection (b) has indicated that the inmate is permanently incapacitated or terminally ill, the commissioner, within 30 days of receipt of an initial application form, shall make a decision. The initial application form and supporting document of inmates, who have been diagnosed by a physician as suffering from a chronic illness or disease related to aging, shall be submitted to the commissioner within 60 days of receipt of the application by the department. Supporting documentation shall include information concerning the inmate's medical history and prognosis, age, and institutional behavior. At the inmate's request, the department shall also provide a copy of all supporting documentation to the inmate.

(e) In determining eligibility factors for a medical furlough, the commissioner shall take into consideration all of the following factors:

(1) Risk for violence.

(2) Criminal history.

(3) Institutional behavior.

(4) Age of the inmate, currently and at the time of the offense.

(5) Severity of the illness, disease, or infirmities.

(6) All available medical and mental health records.

(7) Release plans, which include alternatives to caring for terminally ill or permanently incapacitated inmates in traditional prison settings.

(f) The commissioner shall notify the district attorney of the jurisdiction where the inmate was last sentenced of the consideration of an inmate for a medical furlough and afford the district attorney where the crime was prosecuted a reasonable opportunity to object. The commissioner shall also notify the victim or victims of the crimes listed in paragraphs a. to i., inclusive, of subdivision (1) of subsection (e) of Section 15-22-36, Code of Alabama 1975, for which the defendant is currently incarcerated, of the review to consider a medical furlough. Notice shall be sent by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the victim or victims named in the indictment.

(g) The commissioner shall make a determination whether to grant medical furlough for terminally ill inmates within 30 days of receipt of an initial application and supporting documentation.

(h) The commissioner shall make a determination whether to grant medical furlough for permanently incapacitated inmates within 30 days of receipt of an initial application and supporting documentation.

(i) The commissioner shall make a determination on whether to grant medical furlough for geriatric inmates within 30 days of receipt of the application and supporting documentation from the department.

Section 6. This act shall not be deemed to grant any entitlement or right to release. Upon denial of release by the commissioner, the commissioner may schedule further review of consideration of medical furlough. No inmate or anyone acting on the inmate's behalf shall have the right to seek judicial review.

Section 7. The commissioner may revoke a medical furlough granted pursuant to this act at his or her discretion.

Section 8. All laws or parts of laws which conflict with this act are repealed.

Section 9. This act shall become effective on the first day of the third month following its passage and approval by the Governor, or its otherwise becoming law.

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Alabama Legislatures just pasted "Bills- HB47 and SB15.. called "Medical Furlough Act", so immates can be released early, for midical reasons , as a victim I am asking each to look into these bills , ask your D.A. , Sheriff or Chief of Police ,what they think and then make a call to Gov. Riley, ask him NOT to sign these Bills ! 334-224-7100--

You should spend some time learning how to spell and less time trying to keep terminally ill people in prison. They're dieing... you must hold a lot of hate to feel as you do.

This is mainly to rid the state of paying for their medical expenses.

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Originally posted by jetboy:

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Alabama Legislatures just pasted "Bills- HB47 and SB15.. called "Medical Furlough Act", so immates can be released early, for midical reasons , as a victim I am asking each to look into these bills , ask your D.A. , Sheriff or Chief of Police ,what they think and then make a call to Gov. Riley, ask him NOT to sign these Bills ! 334-224-7100--

You should spend some time learning how to spell and less time trying to keep terminally ill people in prison. They're dieing... you must hold a lot of hate to feel as you do.

Jetboy -- it's obvious you'd rather attack someone for their spelling than to pay attention to the important issue at hand.

If you knew Bama's story you'd have that pro-victim/anti-convict attitude too. I'm sorry -- depending on the crime -- I don't want them to be released. They are the reason we have a prison for the infirmed in Hamilton, Alabama -- send them there to die. They shouldn't get the luxury of dying at home after they have murdered someone or raped someone. I have very little sympathy for them. So I'm with Bama on this...

I do see HR's point of alleviating the medical expense to the state, but that is a burden we took on when we sent them to trial and got the conviction -- the jury decided their fate and I think they should serve their time for their crime - sick, healthy or in between...

This bill specifies no one at risk for violence. Of course, how does one actually know who will repeat or not? It does rule out Capital crimes.

The state has been doing this for some time already. I think part of this bill is to solidify the family's role and financial responsibility in the matter. Those who are released have to qualify for Medicare/Medicaid or have family sign to pay all expenses. This will save the state hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I have never lost anyone to a drunk/impaired driver, so I cannot say with certainty how I would react. I would hope if the incarcerated individual had only 12 months to live that I would be the bigger person and let him go home to his family. I honestly can't say with certainty that I would.

Love the new signature Fire...

While I see the point of "being the bigger person" but when you have experienced the pain and suffering that it causes a family when a family member is killed by a drunk driver -- it is hard to say "Oh yes, he only has 12 months to live let him be free to be with his family" -- he didn't have that courtesy for my family when he got behind the wheel of the car ... I didn't get 12 more months with my family member -- I got a police man on my doorstep saying "I'm sorry, but..." When you've been in those shoes -- it's not so easy to say "Sure let him out"...bigger person or not...

JetBOY!! I am learning to spell , as fast as I can, no where in the rules have I saw spelling or grammer required to post my opinion on here. First you do not know what is in my Heart ,I have no Hate in my Heart, Not even for the young man that killed our son, Yes I hate what he did and allways will ! I have no more Hate than you , in seeing how badly I spell. Thanks for the kind words of ones on here they may understand, JetBOY I am sure I can do many things you can't as you can do many I can't , this is not about me or our sons case, it is about all the victims familys , from Rape, Murder, Sex Offenders to Innocent Victims . after going thru the Justice System with a conviction. Thanks to FirenceVeritas for posting the reading of what the Bill is. I had read that , but not the know how to post it on here as she did . After reading it more than 3 times, in many cases it maybe very hard for the defender to be released for many reasons...... "Justice For All Even The Victims"

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Jetboy -- it's obvious you'd rather attack someone for their spelling than to pay attention to the important issue at hand

DixieChick,,,, you sure hit that nail right on the head with that one!..... he didnt read a thing just threw stones,,, I also agree with the entire comment you made!...... Mr. Bama.... thank you for the information,,,,, I would vote your way if I voted in AL,,,, but I dont...... but I can still support you in thought........

The proposed Medical Furlough Act (HB47/SB15) has "bad" written all over it and should not be signed by the Governor to make it an Alabama Law. I have many objections to it but the two that stand out the most are the victim(s) families were left out of the process and that offenders who aren’t convicted of a capital offense are not necessarily less guilty or less dangerous to society. I cannot imagine after going thru two trials over years time and not getting the sentences we thought those two that murdered our brother Danny so savagely would now be given a furlough to go home and die. One line in the bill talks about taking into consideration the age of the inmate at the time of the crime. So now all those teen agers who were convicted as adults and had some defense attorney convince a jury that the victim’s murder was not so bad, will be released back into society at age 55 to die at home. They grew up as monsters, learned even more about being a monster in the prison system, and one person is going to decide “OK go home”. No attrition, no admission of guilt, and no I’m sorry for all the pain and suffering I caused.



Crimes that are not capital offenses are still horrible crimes. The victim still died a horrible death. The child sexually assaulted will forever be changed for the damage done to them. The rape victim will never feel safe again. The grieving parent for the dead teen killed by the drunk driver will never get to see that wonderful future they always dreamed for their child. At the trial, these families were told a sentence and now if the Medical Furlough Act is signed into law, one person will decide to break yet another belief to these ever grieving victims and families.



Most of the criminals that could get a medical furlough will probably have a rap sheet eons long. And yet they are going to be given another chance in society. So someone else will get hurt, damaged, murdered, raped (insert crime) and the Commissioner will evoke the furlough. The prison system knows these monsters. They know there is no predicting their behavior even if they are dying. Why else would they have put this in the bill?



If Medicaid or Medicare will pay their medical bills outside of prison then why not inside prison. Work the problem that way instead of releasing one of these monsters out into society.



I would have loved to be at my brother Danny’s side when he died. Preferrably when we both were old and had lived long enough to see our grandchildren together. Instead at age 43 he was alone with two monsters. There is no reason to let someone who has been thru the justice system and sentenced to prison to have the chance the victim did not have, that is, being surrounded by loved ones at his hour of death.



Please let Governor Riley know that the Alabama Medical Furlough Act (HB47/SB15) should not be an Alabama Law that criminals should serve out there sentences, even if it means dying in prison.

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of Section 5, employees of the department shall contact appropriate departments and agencies, which may include, but shall not be limited to, the Department of Public Health, the Department of Human Resources, Medicare, Medicaid, hospice organizations, or other public and nonprofit community service agencies as the commissioner may deem necessary for consultation in developing an appropriate discharge plan, and to confirm that required care and resources are available to meet the inmate's needs. This act is not intended to expand or create new responsibilities for public agencies for arranging and providing care.

Do they already have hospice in prison? With up to 5 visits a week for pallative care? With all their meds for their admitting diagnosis paid for by hospice? If not, then we are indeed picking up more of their medical expenses through Medicare/medicaid.

And in order to be hospice appropriate they have to have a caregiver who is capable of caring for them 24/7.

jetboy, dying is not spelled dieing.

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Originally posted by BruceLarson:
The proposed Medical Furlough Act (HB47/SB15) has "bad" written all over it and should not be signed by the Governor to make it an Alabama Law. I have many objections to it but the two that stand out the most are the victim(s) families were left out of the process and that offenders who aren’t convicted of a capital offense are not necessarily less guilty or less dangerous to society. I cannot imagine after going thru two trials over years time and not getting the sentences we thought those two that murdered our brother Danny so savagely would now be given a furlough to go home and die. One line in the bill talks about taking into consideration the age of the inmate at the time of the crime. So now all those teen agers who were convicted as adults and had some defense attorney convince a jury that the victim’s murder was not so bad, will be released back into society at age 55 to die at home. They grew up as monsters, learned even more about being a monster in the prison system, and one person is going to decide “OK go home”. No attrition, no admission of guilt, and no I’m sorry for all the pain and suffering I caused.



Crimes that are not capital offenses are still horrible crimes. The victim still died a horrible death. The child sexually assaulted will forever be changed for the damage done to them. The rape victim will never feel safe again. The grieving parent for the dead teen killed by the drunk driver will never get to see that wonderful future they always dreamed for their child. At the trial, these families were told a sentence and now if the Medical Furlough Act is signed into law, one person will decide to break yet another belief to these ever grieving victims and families.



Most of the criminals that could get a medical furlough will probably have a rap sheet eons long. And yet they are going to be given another chance in society. So someone else will get hurt, damaged, murdered, raped (insert crime) and the Commissioner will evoke the furlough. The prison system knows these monsters. They know there is no predicting their behavior even if they are dying. Why else would they have put this in the bill?



If Medicaid or Medicare will pay their medical bills outside of prison then why not inside prison. Work the problem that way instead of releasing one of these monsters out into society.



I would have loved to be at my brother Danny’s side when he died. Preferrably when we both were old and had lived long enough to see our grandchildren together. Instead at age 43 he was alone with two monsters. There is no reason to let someone who has been thru the justice system and sentenced to prison to have the chance the victim did not have, that is, being surrounded by loved ones at his hour of death.



Please let Governor Riley know that the Alabama Medical Furlough Act (HB47/SB15) should not be an Alabama Law that criminals should serve out there sentences, even if it means dying in prison.

excellent points

"If Medicaid or Medicare will pay their medical bills outside of prison then why not inside prison. Work the problem that way instead of releasing one of these monsters out into society."

Answer: It is a Federal policy. Prisoners are not entitled to Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, etc. Now tell us truthfully, if you heard that a 62 year-old, robust killer on death row was receiving social secuity benefits, wouldn't you be upset?

Bruce Larson, was your brother Danny Sledge. The man who killed him got life without. He can't be released.

The real issue for victims of violent crime that are against this bill.
1.it was introduced in the special session
2.nothing in the bill states that victims will be notified, victim on the indictment are usually deceased. the DOC does not have this info on victims families and the parole board does not share info
3.why does the age of the inmate at the time of the crime being committed have to do with a medical furlough
4.there is no savings to the state, merely a shifting of expense from one state agency to another
5.age 55 is not elderly, we have several cases in our local area that the inmate could be released if this bill is signed into law, and they are responsiblel for the taking of a life.
6.we have a parole board they are circumventing this board
7.why have a trial with a jury, lets just let the DOC decide how long everyone needs to stay in prison
8.no process of protest
My family has lost a loved one to murder, I do not want the power for the release of the persons in our case handed to one person. I have seen first hand the preferential treatment some inmates receive. Just look at our detention center in Laudrdale.
Shame on the governor and our local legislature who voted for this bill.
Check out the Montgomery Advertiser "Bill would free some terminally ill inmates".
I pray to be a bigger person, and I am happy for those who can be. I try not to criticize other victims for how they handle the process we all must go through. No one knows how they will handle a situation untill they go through it for themselves.
I just know I feel betrayed once again by people and a system I thought would protect me.
Justice for all even the victim

Two corrections to what's been said recently:

The DOC does not control in any manner when anyone is released. This is up to the Board of Pardons and Parole or the sentencing judge. The DOC administers the laws, it does not make them. I do not know who will control medical releases should they become law, but I would not think the DOC.

I did not realize B. Larson was referring to the Sledge murder. This is a fact: one of the accused admitted the crime. The second one did not and has not as far as I know. No evidence connected him to the scene. He is currently serving life with the possibility of parole. I can understand how he is a monster to the victim's family, but he may be guilty of nothing more than bad judgment, drug abuse, and being an accessory after the fact. He will be eligible for parole shortly. If it should be granted, I hope he will become a productive member of society.

Pleae refer to the Bill in the earlier post, the commisssioner of the DOC will make a determination whether to grant medical furlough after he has received a request and medical reports have been given. They are leaving the Pardons and Parole board and victims out of the process.
Wish I could remember the exact details but there were two inmates held for murder allowed to live at a state trooper post outside the prison that they were supposedly housed at, close to the Bham area. The DOC has a lot of control of inmates once they enter the prison.
Concerning the Sledge murder the second defendant did not confess but he did wield the knife stabbing the victim 22 times while the first defendant held him down stopping him from defending himself.
No victims ever wants the offender back on the street. This bill could allow older criminals to serve very little time for murder.

Nofan, my statement about the DOC is what they do currently. I read the bill--I'm the one who posted it. I said I did not know exactly how the new bill would affect this.

Second, the older brother never confessed to this. The younger brothr told this story after his conviction in order to be called home to testify. He later refused to do so. That is why the older brother was not convicted of capital murder. It's my opinion that an innocent man (innocent of the murder) may very well be serving a sentence he does not deserve.

Nofan, since you have related "what happened" at the murder, I assume you also took part in it or are God...

thanks for posting the bill
Sorry for the confusion I did not say older brothr I said sencond defendant, I stated it that way because the older brother was tried second. The first trial the confession of the younger brother was admitted inot evidence (he gave the confession when he was arrested) for his trial. The second trial of the older brother all the evidence was not heard therefore the lesser sentence, you are correct he would not testify against his older brother.
Our system is not perfect but I will gladly take it over any other countries system.
My only point I really wanted to make is that the Bill is not needed we have a parole board, they can come back to the sentencing judge, or they can die in prison. The state is just shifting monies from one agency to another, thay might save money for DOC but what about the other over burdened agencies?
I am really do not want to debate any particular case, just state my opinion. thaks for giveing me that chance.

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Originally posted by FirenzeVeritas:
Nofan, my statement about the DOC is what they do currently. I read the bill--I'm the one who posted it. I said I did not know exactly how the new bill would affect this.

Second, the older brother never confessed to this. The younger brothr told this story after his conviction in order to be called home to testify. He later refused to do so. That is why the older brother was not convicted of capital murder. It's my opinion that an innocent man (innocent of the murder) may very well be serving a sentence he does not deserve.

Nofan, since you have related "what happened" at the murder, I assume you also took part in it or are God...

My wife is a friend of the defense attourny for the one that got life. There's an automatic appeal, but even if he's guilty and I think he is, his trial was not handled right. Doug Evans kept evidence from Ms. Darby. I've read on here that its standard for him. Its ok to railroad a guilty person (i guess) but how about an innocent one?

This is what Rick Bragg says

http://www.pulitzer.org/year/1996/feature-writing/works/prison.html

I was in Judge Jones court room most all morning, Arrangments from drug cases to break ins, Most of them have had many, many chances to better their lifes. two charged with capital Murder & one chraged for Murder in one case, and another Murder case that was waved by the deffence Attorney, of all the cases ., not a One of the Deffendants said they was Guilty !! , Oh Yes it is the Deffence Attorneys Job Appointed or hired to Defend these people as they should , under our Justice System. Some do a much better Job than others . Any Defence Attorney is looking for any little thing , as a "T" not being Crossed or an "I" not being dotted to get the Defendant Off or ever after a Conviction a retrial. I have even learned to repect a few Deffense Attorneys . In the Danny Sledge Murder trial , Mrs Darby knows , when it came down to it ,Evidence was NOT with held . The Father of them two boys knows what they did . The truth of the matter ,one of them Boys should have been locked away , way before this ever happened. --- And on what Rick Braggs said !! that allmost got me choked up & tears to my eyes... but nothing like the feeling of reading or seeing on the News of a Family that has just gotten the News , they just lost a dear Innocent Love One by a Scum Bagg only feeding his Addiction ! I am sure any Victims Family would Trade Shoes for Just one Hour with any of you , that has never had to walk the Jourey of a Life Time Sentence with no Parole and with out Love ones. I do not hold Hate in my Heart, as someone implyed. But I sure Hate the knowing someone that had a choice & to bring so much Pian to so many for so long, to be treated other than what they was Convicted for & the amont of time sentenced they should have to serve !!. Mr Braggs the Nursing homes are full of Innocent people most old ,some young going thru the same thing as you descrided... Help them First !! Now before someone Jumps me for my Bad Spelling or Grammer.. I am so sorry.. If the truth Hurts I am sorry for that Too !! OK for anyone that has looked at this Bill , agrees it should not be accepted, Please Call Gov Rily .. the correct # is 334- 242 - 7100 . .. to be Fair if you agree with this Bill let him know too !

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I was in Judge Jones court room most all morning, Arrangments from drug cases to break ins, Most of them have had many, many chances to better their lifes. two charged with capital Murder & one chraged for Murder in one case, and another Murder case that was waved by the deffence Attorney, of all the cases ., not a One of the Deffendants said they was Guilty !! , Oh Yes it is the Deffence Attorneys Job Appointed or hired to Defend these people as they should , under our Justice System. Some do a much better Job than others . Any Defence Attorney is looking for any little thing , as a "T" not being Crossed or an "I" not being dotted to get the Defendant Off or ever after a Conviction a retrial. I have even learned to repect a few Deffense Attorneys . In the Danny Sledge Murder trial , Mrs Darby knows , when it came down to it ,Evidence was NOT with held . The Father of them two boys knows what they did . The truth of the matter ,one of them Boys should have been locked away , way before this ever happened. --- And on what Rick Braggs said !! that allmost got me choked up & tears to my eyes... but nothing like the feeling of reading or seeing on the News of a Family that has just gotten the News , they just lost a dear Innocent Love One by a Scum Bagg only feeding his Addiction ! I am sure any Victims Family would Trade Shoes for Just one Hour with any of you , that has never had to walk the Jourey of a Life Time Sentence with no Parole and with out Love ones. I do not hold Hate in my Heart, as someone implyed. But I sure Hate the knowing someone that had a choice & to bring so much Pian to so many for so long, to be treated other than what they was Convicted for & the amont of time sentenced they should have to serve !!. Mr Braggs the Nursing homes are full of Innocent people most old ,some young going thru the same thing as you descrided... Help them First !! Now before someone Jumps me for my Bad Spelling or Grammer.. I am so sorry.. If the truth Hurts I am sorry for that Too !! OK for anyone that has looked at this Bill , agrees it should not be accepted, Please Call Gov Rily .. the correct # is 334- 242 - 7100 . .. to be Fair if you agree with this Bill let him know too !

Honey if you're not full of hate, then I recon I haven't ever saw hate before.

I guess you sit up in church on sunday yelling out vengeance is mine sayeth the lord.

I appreciate all Bama does to keep us informed about the legal system in Lauderdale. Anyone who lost a child would feel as he does.

As for the younger Boyd brother, he did admit his guilt. I do remember the prosecution sprang a surprise witness on the defense, claiming it was an oversight. What I detest about this is that it could have caused a not guilty verdict due to a backlash from the jury.

I read Mr. Bragg's article. He is a great writer--I don't know if he intended to bring the reader to feel sympathy for these men or not. If he did, he could have chosen better examples, but perhaps there were none. I was amused that the warden wanted the public to know the state did not have to pay for their embalming...

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I appreciate all Bama does to keep us informed about the legal system in Lauderdale. Anyone who lost a child would feel as he does.

Translated as...I use bamafatnktic as a juicy gossip source.

Na, I disagree if they are ill, and sick they are just costing us money to be in the jails or prisons. They should be released, let their families pay for their care.

This is for Jet .... BOY !! First I do not attend Church or Judge People, as you do , If a 65 year man is "Honey" to you ! Then you have a lot of Growning up to do , & you can.t spell any better than I can . But I have no problem with that . I am still willing to learn as I go & not Judge others ...I don't even know you , as you don't know me !!.. but if your Mom or Dad will drive you, I would more than be Pleased to meet you Face to Face, In two or 3 years you maybe able to Drive yourself when you get of age .... Take Advantake of this, it will be my Last Time I watse it on Someone as you !! They are Hundrends of Post on here that I repect if I agree with them or not,

There was nothing innocent about either of those monsters. I stick to monsters because I remember the aftermath of those days after Danny's murder. The murder scene photo of my brother that showed his eyes wide open and knowing those two monsters were last in his line of vision will be one of the many terrible things that will always be a part of me. Let either of those monsters out on society again, never! Not at age 55 and not at age 75. They are the ones with hate in their hearts that turned into rage that exploded into that bloody scene at the Galley. Every chance they ever got in life, they ignored. And yes some people grow into wisdom but their Dad talked about all the abuse he dished out while he was high on drugs and alcohol that they would never learn from another chance, just turn it into another nightmare for another family. The DOC does not need to be changed to accomadate the dying prisoner. Make it another step for the parole board or ask for a pardon from the Governor. Like I said this bill has "bad" written all over it and does not need to be made into Alabama Law. Call the Governor, stop it.

I am very sorry for your loss, I cannot fathom how it must have been or still be for you. Yet, since only one admitted the crime and the other was not connected to the scene by any evidence, how can you be so sure he was involved? His younger brother is obviously capable of anything, so lying about the other's role in the crime would not be out of character.

So, FirenzeVeritas--Are you a defense attorney?? Sure the hell sounds like it!! I am not sure who put you up on your high horse, but sounds like you and JetBOY need to come on down. And if you are a defense attorney and you were the "innocent" brothers attorney, no wonder he's in jail. You must not have been paying attention to facts! And if you aren't a defense attorney, you must be a regular visitor to the prisons down south! As for my opinion(you didn't ask-but I'm tellin anyway!) the discussion was about the Alabama Medical Furlough Act. But your always going to have idiots so here we are. And the thought of someone out there that knows anything regarding the murder of Mr. Sledge, and actually thinks there is an innocent person in jail, makes me sick! Neither one of those boys were innocent. And the only mistake made during those 2 trials was the outcome, they BOTH should have got the same result David Riley got! Also, the great impression of a crying act from a certain def. attorney and some spitting while speaking from another!!!

Fact No. 1 - I didn't bring the Sledge murder into this discussion, someone calling themselves Bruce Larson did. I assume he did it of his free will.

Fact No. 2 - A man you say is guilty has never admitted it, and no physical evidence ever placed him at the scene. If he's guilty as you say, then he received too light a sentence. If he's innocent of the murder, he is paying for his bad judgment with years of his life. I, unlike you, am not God and omnipotent.

Fact No. 3 - I have never called anyone on this forum any vulgar or vile names. You have made two posts and proved your character.

Fact No. 4 - Attorneys, be they defense attorneys or prosecutors, possess a juris doctorate. In other words, they have some smarts. I've found in life it pays to learn from one's betters. You might try it sometime.

Well, aren't you full of facts, numbered facts too! Boy, you sure learned alot from those smart attorneys. You are right about one thing, he did get too light of a sentence! I never claimed to be God, and if you think the words hell and idiot are vulgar or vile, get a life! And when did murders start confessing? If they fess up after they've done the crime then why in the HECK do we have so many cases unsolved??

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Originally posted by lilmisschatterbox:
So, FirenzeVeritas--Are you a defense attorney?? Sure the hell sounds like it!! I am not sure who put you up on your high horse, but sounds like you and JetBOY need to come on down. And if you are a defense attorney and you were the "innocent" brothers attorney, no wonder he's in jail. You must not have been paying attention to facts! And if you aren't a defense attorney, you must be a regular visitor to the prisons down south! As for my opinion(you didn't ask-but I'm tellin anyway!) the discussion was about the Alabama Medical Furlough Act. But your always going to have idiots so here we are. And the thought of someone out there that knows anything regarding the murder of Mr. Sledge, and actually thinks there is an innocent person in jail, makes me sick! Neither one of those boys were innocent. And the only mistake made during those 2 trials was the outcome, they BOTH should have got the same result David Riley got! Also, the great impression of a crying act from a certain def. attorney and some spitting while speaking from another!!!

Lil miss, I think Firenze answered you pretty well, but I'll add my two cents. You seem to have been at both trials. I'd say that makes you family or close friend of the victim. Some of us have lost relatives to violence, including FV and myself, and haven't let it warp our souls like you have.

When I was a young woman, there were names for women who used language like you have here. Would you want your mother or your childen to read what you've written here?

Don't have a heart attack, I misspelled something, murderers

One in this topic and one in Autism, there has to be a full moon tonight.

Well, thank you for your TEN cents. So, are you calling me a name? I am sooooo sorry for those two horrible, unimaginable words. I will let you know, my soul is not warped and in my day people don't use such language when refering to another persons soul! How rude! But, I appreciate your cents!

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Originally posted by BruceLarson:
The proposed Medical Furlough Act (HB47/SB15) has "bad" written all over it and should not be signed by the Governor to make it an Alabama Law. I have many objections to it but the two that stand out the most are the victim(s) families were left out of the process and that offenders who aren’t convicted of a capital offense are not necessarily less guilty or less dangerous to society. I cannot imagine after going thru two trials over years time and not getting the sentences we thought those two that murdered our brother Danny so savagely would now be given a furlough to go home and die. One line in the bill talks about taking into consideration the age of the inmate at the time of the crime. So now all those teen agers who were convicted as adults and had some defense attorney convince a jury that the victim’s murder was not so bad, will be released back into society at age 55 to die at home. They grew up as monsters, learned even more about being a monster in the prison system, and one person is going to decide “OK go home”. No attrition, no admission of guilt, and no I’m sorry for all the pain and suffering I caused.



Crimes that are not capital offenses are still horrible crimes. The victim still died a horrible death. The child sexually assaulted will forever be changed for the damage done to them. The rape victim will never feel safe again. The grieving parent for the dead teen killed by the drunk driver will never get to see that wonderful future they always dreamed for their child. At the trial, these families were told a sentence and now if the Medical Furlough Act is signed into law, one person will decide to break yet another belief to these ever grieving victims and families.



Most of the criminals that could get a medical furlough will probably have a rap sheet eons long. And yet they are going to be given another chance in society. So someone else will get hurt, damaged, murdered, raped (insert crime) and the Commissioner will evoke the furlough. The prison system knows these monsters. They know there is no predicting their behavior even if they are dying. Why else would they have put this in the bill?



If Medicaid or Medicare will pay their medical bills outside of prison then why not inside prison. Work the problem that way instead of releasing one of these monsters out into society.



I would have loved to be at my brother Danny’s side when he died. Preferrably when we both were old and had lived long enough to see our grandchildren together. Instead at age 43 he was alone with two monsters. There is no reason to let someone who has been thru the justice system and sentenced to prison to have the chance the victim did not have, that is, being surrounded by loved ones at his hour of death.



Please let Governor Riley know that the Alabama Medical Furlough Act (HB47/SB15) should not be an Alabama Law that criminals should serve out there sentences, even if it means dying in prison.

According to WHNT this does not involve sex crimes as you stated. Gov. Riley is set to sign this into law on Monday. It will save Alabama between 6 and 8 million in one year.

The jury convicted one of your brothers killers of capital murder. It was the judge who refused to sentence him to death.

California has a similar law. No murderers or rapists, etc., are included in the program and it has proved beneficial to all.

I try to keep an open mind. I see the person posting as Bruce Larson here has been posting as D. M. Larson on a Mobile site. This makes me wonder what's up with him/her.