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'MEET ME IN THE STAIRWELL'

You say you will never forget where you were when
You heard the news On September 11, 2001.
Neither will I.

I was on the 110th floor in a smoke filled room
With a man who called his wife to say 'Good-Bye.' I
Held his fingers steady as he dialed. I gave him the
Peace to say, 'Honey, I am not going to make it, but it
Is OK..I am ready to go.'

I was with his wife when he called as she fed
Breakfast to their children. I held her up as she
Tried to understand his words and as she realized
He wasn't coming home that night.

I was in the stairwell of the 23rd floor when a
Woman cried out to Me for help. 'I have been
Knocking on the door of your heart for 50 years!' I said.
'Of course I will show you the way home - only
Believe in Me now.'

I was at the base of the building with the Priest
Ministering to the injured and devastated souls.
I took him home to tend to his Flock in Heaven. He
Heard my voice and answered.

I was on all four of those planes, in every sea t,
With every prayer. I was with the crew as they
Were overtaken. I was in the very hearts of the
Believers there, comforting and assuring them that their
Faith has saved them.

I was in Texas , Virginia , California , Michigan , Afghanistan .
I was standing nex t to you when you heard the terrible news.
Did you sense Me?

I want you to know that I saw every face. I knew
Every name - though not all know Me. Some met Me
For the first time on the 86th floor.

Some sought Me with their last breath.
Some couldn't hear Me calling to them through the
Smoke and flames; 'Come to Me... This way... Take
My hand.' Some chose, for the final time, to ignore Me.
But, I was there.

I did not place you in the Tower that day. You
May not know why, but I do. However, if you were
There in that explosive moment in time, would you have
Reached for Me?

Sept. 11, 2001, was not the end of the journey
For you. But someday your journey will end. And I
Will be there for you as well. Seek Me now while I may
Be found. Then, at any moment, you know you are
;'ready to go.'

I will be in the stairwell of your final moments.

God

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Originally posted by GoFish:
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I will be in the stairwell of your final moments.

God


He was also evidently with the hijackers who were piloting the planes who brought destruction to the infidels.

Allah Ackbar!


Fish you are truly evil in your heart and mind to be in contempt this way.

You know as well as I that a person who thinks they will receive virgins in Heaven if they murder thousands of people and kill themselves is NOT from God but from Satan. Only Satan and his minions will twist your mind to be evil and speak or perform actions as if there is no true God.
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You know as well as I that a person who thinks they will receive virgins in Heaven if they murder thousands of people and kill themselves is NOT from God but from Satan.


No, I certainly don't know that, Bray. The hijackers believed so strongly that they were performing their duties as agents of the same God of Jehovah that you worship.

You and your ilk, Braylan, are but one tiny step from becoming the same kind of deranged fundamentalist that piloted the planes.

The very first step is to deem someone like me "evil" for stating truth. The next step is to condemn me to hell. The last step is to personally participate in the process of sending me to your hell.

If we forget that your brand of madness was responsible for 9-11 then we are doomed to repeat it.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
No, I certainly don't know that, Bray. The hijackers believed so strongly that they were performing their duties as agents of the same God of Jehovah that you worship.

You and your ilk, Braylan, are but one tiny step from becoming the same kind of deranged fundamentalist that piloted the planes.

The very first step is to deem someone like me "evil" for stating truth. The next step is to condemn me to hell. The last step is to personally participate in the process of sending me to your hell.

If we forget that your brand of madness was responsible for 9-11 then we are doomed to repeat it.


First of all the difference between the ilk of myself and many other Christians from those; we believe in Jesus Christ the Messiah one that came to show love and compassion for others! Not Muhammed and the sun god they worship.

I condemn no one to Hell, you condemn yourself by not following the word of God. The Holy Bible!
not the muslim Koran/Quran.

Those hijackers were taught that if they kill themselves and thousands of others they would receive virgins in Heaven. You are showing ignorance to say that that is the teachings of The Holy Bible. They do NOT and I repeat they do NOT believe in the Messiah Jesus as their savior!

Don't lump Christians in with them!
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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I will be in the stairwell of your final moments.

God


He was also evidently with the hijackers who were piloting the planes who brought destruction to the infidels.

Allah Ackbar!

Hi Fish,

Very possibly, your god was with them; maybe even Allah.

And, yes, the God of Christians, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- was there also. Why do I say this? Because God is omnipresent; He is everywhere -- especially where believers are found. And, I am sure there were believers on those planes and in those tower buildings.

Yes, He was there with them. And, when they died; He was there to gently hold their hands, to embrace them, to welcome them home. Yes, He was there.

But, the one with the hijackers, the terrorists, was your god -- Satan. He was hiding there also; urging his followers on to their eternal destiny -- hell with him.

Fish, you are in good company. I am sure they will all appreciate your sense of humor -- for it is very worldly. Yes sir, you will be a hero there with your friends. But, I sure would not want to be in that place with you.

Fish, it is one thing to debate religion, creation, evolution, etc. -- but, frankly you have sunk below the gutter lately. The way you are writing now makes me wonder if you have gone over the edge.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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If heaven is such a much greater place, why not just drink the kool-aid with "your" people and leave this horrible horrible earth to us heathens?
Why are you "waiting" on god to come get you and "lead" you to your spot in eternal heaven?

"72 virgins" seems just as ridiculous as "streets of gold".

Both are promises that were made in a time when humans were still trying to figure out that pooping where they slept was a bad idea.
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The way you are writing now makes me wonder if you have gone over the edge.


You insist that an invisible protector was looking out for terrified people in a stairwell as planes piloted by god's avengers, filled with fervent, prayerful people crashed into the building that is is supposedly protected by the Creator.

I call BS and my sanity is questioned?
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we believe in Jesus Christ the Messiah one that came to show love and compassion for others!


So do the KKK, Aryan Nations and abortion clinic bombers. So does reverend Jim Phelps and his congregation.

If fact, many (most?) of the wars, skirmishes and killings taking place on earth right at this very moment are between Christians and people of differing beliefs.
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Originally posted by fineazell1: If heaven is such a much greater place, why not just drink the kool-aid with "your" people and leave this horrible horrible earth to us heathens? Why are you "waiting" on god to come get you and "lead" you to your spot in eternal heaven?

My dear Fine

That is a wonderful question. And the apostle Paul has an answer for you:

Philippians 1:21-24, "For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor for me; and I do not know which to choose. But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better; yet to remain on in the flesh is more necessary for your sake."

And, there, my dear Friend, is your answer: To be in heaven would be the promotion we have long dreamed of getting -- but, if we Christians all go to heaven -- who will save the worthless souls of all you pagans?

Therefore, it is for your sake that we Christians stay around and post good sense in this swamp of primordial pagan blather.

That is how much we Christians love you. Doesn't that give you a warm and fuzzy feeling?

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Monet, do you realize how silly you sound?

The god of Abraham is the god of the Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims. The same guy.

Obviously, he tells Muslims different things these days as he does the others. Go figure.

But the devout Muslims who perpetrated 9/11 were not Satanists, but believers in your god.

Why do you think the one god tells people of different cultural histories different things?

DF
You don't have to be a "Satanist" to be deceived and misguided by Satan. People rarely realize when they are being led by him. He is a very clever and wylie being. Do you really believe that terrorists worship the True God?
You're right, God is not telling them to kill innocent people. Satan has such a stranglehold on that area of the world, it would be very difficult for the people to find God. But, with God all things are possible. Some people are becoming Christians..and facing persecution and even execution for their new beliefs.
Monet,

Satan has his grip on you. If you read the Old Testament, you'll know what a s*!t god is. Bloodthirsty old bustard, he is.

The Muslims have it right. You have it wrong, and YOU follow Satan into the path of brainless pacifism so that the armies of god can destroy you, as is their wish. Satan wants you destroyed, for following your false beliefs.

Reject Satan. Become a Muslim.


DF
Religion is the masterpiece of the art of animal training, for it trains people as how they shall think. - Schopenhauer

That's all a religion is-some principle you believe in...Man has accomplished far more miracles than the God he invented. What a tragedy it is to invent a God and then suffer to keep him King. - Rod Steiger
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Originally posted by DeepFat:
Monet, do you realize how silly you sound?

The god of Abraham is the god of the Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims. The same guy.

Obviously, he tells Muslims different things these days as he does the others. Go figure.

But the devout Muslims who perpetrated 9/11 were not Satanists, but believers in your god.

Why do you think the one god tells people of different cultural histories different things?

DF

Hi Deep,

Once again, you are wrong. Nothing so unusual about that. The God of the Christians and the Jews is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- He is the God of the Bible.

Allah is the god of the Muslims, the god of the Qur'an.

The two are totally different. One day, if you can get your nose out of your Atheist Cutesy Saying Handbook -- and post rational questions and comments, we can discuss this subject further.

Until then, just take my word for it.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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That's all a religion is-some principle you believe in...Man has accomplished far more miracles than the God he invented. What a tragedy it is to invent a God and then suffer to keep him King. - Rod Steiger

Hi DR,

Wow! You are quoting a Hollywood actor -- and we are supposed to take you seriously?

Let me join you in that. I will quote one of my favorite Hollywood characters. As our dear friend, Gomer Pyle, would say, "Suprise! Surprise! Surprise!"

Or maybe Goober, "Aw shucks, Gomer!"

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill

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Once again, you are wrong. Nothing so unusual about that. The God of the Christians and the Jews is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- He is the God of the Bible.


Encyclopedia Britannica: "Allah" is the standard Arabic word for 'God.' While the term is best known in the West for its use by Muslims as a reference to God, it is used by Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, in reference to "God".
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
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Originally posted by drdj:
That's all a religion is-some principle you believe in...Man has accomplished far more miracles than the God he invented. What a tragedy it is to invent a God and then suffer to keep him King. - Rod Steiger

Hi DR,

Wow! You are quoting a Hollywood actor -- and we are supposed to take you seriously?

Let me join you in that. I will quote one of my favorite Hollywood characters. As our dear friend, Gomer Pyle, would say, "Suprise! Surprise! Surprise!"

Or maybe Goober, "Aw shucks, Gomer!"

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill


Bill, I can't make sense of her quotes either. Totally random and not on topic at all. Schopenhauer was a misogynist who leaned toward eastern religions and I couldn't figure the Rod Steiger one out at all. Is that a line from In The Heat of the Night? And didn't he play a racist in that movie?

And they poke fun at me for writing ghost stories.

Oh well, they are entertaining.

Now, back to the Fish, Fat, Bill and others banter which I enjoy.
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Originally posted by Monet:
You don't have to be a "Satanist" to be deceived and misguided by Satan. People rarely realize when they are being led by him. He is a very clever and wylie being. Do you really believe that terrorists worship the True God?
You're right, God is not telling them to kill innocent people. Satan has such a stranglehold on that area of the world, it would be very difficult for the people to find God. But, with God all things are possible. Some people are becoming Christians..and facing persecution and even execution for their new beliefs.


You can pose these same questions from their viewpoint, and they will arrive at the same answers you do, only from their viewpoint.
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Originally posted by DeepFat:
Monet, do you realize how silly you sound?

The god of Abraham is the god of the Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims. The same guy.

Obviously, he tells Muslims different things these days as he does the others. Go figure.

But the devout Muslims who perpetrated 9/11 were not Satanists, but believers in your god.

Why do you think the one god tells people of different cultural histories different things?

DF

Hi Deep,

Once again, you are wrong. Nothing so unusual about that. The God of the Christians and the Jews is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- He is the God of the Bible.

Allah is the god of the Muslims, the god of the Qur'an.

The two are totally different. One day, if you can get your nose out of your Atheist Cutesy Saying Handbook -- and post rational questions and comments, we can discuss this subject further.

Until then, just take my word for it.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill


Ah, Bill. Let's just ignore history.

Have a blissed day, Bill.
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
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Originally posted by DeepFat:
Monet, do you realize how silly you sound?

The god of Abraham is the god of the Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims. The same guy.

Obviously, he tells Muslims different things these days as he does the others. Go figure.

But the devout Muslims who perpetrated 9/11 were not Satanists, but believers in your god.

Why do you think the one god tells people of different cultural histories different things?

DF

Hi Deep,

Once again, you are wrong. Nothing so unusual about that. The God of the Christians and the Jews is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- He is the God of the Bible.

Allah is the god of the Muslims, the god of the Qur'an.

The two are totally different. One day, if you can get your nose out of your Atheist Cutesy Saying Handbook -- and post rational questions and comments, we can discuss this subject further.

Until then, just take my word for it.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill


Ah, Bill. Let's just ignore history.

Have a blissed day, Bill.

Hi Crusty,

It is one thing to just make a statement; it is quite another to back it with facts.

Where are the facts to back your statement?

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by drdj:
That's all a religion is-some principle you believe in...Man has accomplished far more miracles than the God he invented. What a tragedy it is to invent a God and then suffer to keep him King. - Rod Steiger

Hi DR,

Wow! You are quoting a Hollywood actor -- and we are supposed to take you seriously?

Let me join you in that. I will quote one of my favorite Hollywood characters. As our dear friend, Gomer Pyle, would say, "Suprise! Surprise! Surprise!"

Or maybe Goober, "Aw shucks, Gomer!"

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill

Oh, I didn't know that Actors were not a part of this world or you do not consider them a part of the human race. I thought we had a president who had been an actor! Hum!
Oh, Mr. Bill so judgemental! Aren't you proud you are a Christian or maybe someone told you were a Christian. You're special!!!! I bet you are just dying to get to Heaven now that you are so sin free!
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Originally posted by UnderContract:
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
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Originally posted by drdj:
That's all a religion is-some principle you believe in...Man has accomplished far more miracles than the God he invented. What a tragedy it is to invent a God and then suffer to keep him King. - Rod Steiger

Hi DR,

Wow! You are quoting a Hollywood actor -- and we are supposed to take you seriously?

Let me join you in that. I will quote one of my favorite Hollywood characters. As our dear friend, Gomer Pyle, would say, "Suprise! Surprise! Surprise!"

Or maybe Goober, "Aw shucks, Gomer!"

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill


Bill, I can't make sense of her quotes either. Totally random and not on topic at all. Schopenhauer was a misogynist who leaned toward eastern religions and I couldn't figure the Rod Steiger one out at all. Is that a line from In The Heat of the Night? And didn't he play a racist in that movie?

And they poke fun at me for writing ghost stories.

Oh well, they are entertaining.

Now, back to the Fish, Fat, Bill and others banter which I enjoy.


Ah, UC not surprised at all that you do not understand. Infact, I really am surprised to see you in a religious forum. GOOD GIRL!
I bet you googled yourself to death since it took you 9 hrs. to reach your conclusion. You are so intelligent!
Actually, what was said, "This polemic on female nature has since been fiercely attacked by feminists AS misogynistic", not as you said HE WAS misogynistic. The essay also said that "woman are decidedly more sober in their judgment than we(men) are".
Please keep following me from one thread to another, it is so much fun to play with you!
I do not poke fun at your ghost stories, just the EP-books. SHAME ON YOU!

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