it's a trick.

it is a horrible thought to think you gun nuts have made it OK for rolly to take a loaded gun to school.

What were you idiots thinking?

Don't worry Quaildung...

Even though you often foam at the mouth, like a "Mad Dog", and go off on incoherent ramblings, I don't think anyone is going to shoot you for that!

Now, on the other hand, you'd best be more careful when stalking those "poor defenseless females"...they might NOT be as defenseless as you think...

ps...I've been "packing" for years now...

I would like to see a list of what you can do with a cc permit and what you cannot do with a cc permit. Also what can you do with a rifle in your vehicle. You can read that the only way to have a rifle in your vehicle is that you have to have a current hunting license during hunting season, but hunting in Al. is mainly in Oct., Nov., and Dec. so what do you do for the rest of the months. We need clear directions. Facebooks messages under the headlines on tonites screen are even more confusing.

If one wears proper attire, uses a quality holster and belt, no one is going to know you're armed.  It's worked for me for over 30 years.

As for local interpretations of state laws........ Most school boards can't decide when to have a meeting, much less what the LEGAL  extents and ramifications of various state laws are.

It was legal to CCP in a school before the new law.   Nothing has changed.  As usual, QD has no idea what he's talking about.

As they used to say, QD doesn't have good walking around sense.

Hoob QD does have an idea. I had a permit long before you were born and on the back it stated where you could not ccw. Schools were  on the list. The law must have changed. Why were teachers not ccw all along?

Considering you have no idea how old I am, another ignorant statement.  My statement stands correct, prior to the current law, you could CCW in a school as long as your intent was to do no harm.

well old man why did it state on the reverse side that you couldn't ccw in schools or Fed buildings?

The school my kids attend made it clear no weapons were allowed on campus, and I am glad.  We have a resource officer, but otherwise no.

Then I guess I'll need no "Thanks" when I take out a future 

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold

at any sporting event at your "kids school"...

With my always present...Colt or Makarov...

Huh!

Just...PLEASE...don't go Baahhahahaha...

Your post is mature, well-thought out, and so helpful.  It is so reassuring to know you are so gleeful about your friend you carry. That is a mature and responsible attitude to have about something like carrying a gun.  And the sheep are such a mature and reasonable commentary, too.  There are no weapons allowed on campus.  

Allowed...or NOT...Mine is with me...No Thanks needed from your flock.

So you are saying that even if weapons are forbidden on a school campus you will be still carrying one?  So you are fine with carrying guns where they aren't allowed?  Wonder if that would be okay with the school authorities?  So you feel it is okay to disregard what is allowed, yet you consider yourself a responsible gun owner?  Interesting.  Sounds more like a funny game of power from what you have posted.

If I'm not mistaken, its a federal law that guns are not allowed on school campus. 

Anyone ccw on school grounds will be breaking the law. Law abiding citizens should be wary of anyone that would do so. 

Not true.

My last lauderdale issue CCP did not have that, nor did the ones before, nor the current.  Simply read the law.

Even UNA has admitted that CCP would only be Code of Conduct violation.

This is an elementary school.  The rule is no weapons.  Why break that unless a person is looking for trouble?

you're wrong frog:

http://alisondb.legislature.st...bama/1975/coatoc.htm

Section 13A-11-72

Certain persons forbidden to possess pistol.

(a) No person who has been convicted in this state or elsewhere of committing or attempting to commit a crime of violence shall own a pistol or have one in his or her possession or under his or her control.

(b) No person who is a drug addict or an habitual drunkard shall own a pistol or have one in his or her possession or under his or her control.

(c) Subject to the exceptions provided by Section 13A-11-74, no person shall knowingly with intent to do bodily harm carry or possess a deadly weapon on the premises of a public school.

(d) Possession of a deadly weapon with the intent to do bodily harm on the premises of a public school in violation of subsection (c) of this section is a Class C felony.

(e) Law enforcement officers are exempt from this section, and persons with pistol permits issued pursuant to Section 13A-11-75, are exempt from the provisions of subsection (c) of this section.

(f) The term "public school" as used in this section applies only to a school composed of grades K-12 and shall include a school bus used for grades K-12.

(g) The term "deadly weapon" as used in this section means a firearm or anything manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purposes of inflicting death or serious physical injury, and such term includes, but is not limited to, a bazooka, hand grenade, missile, or explosive or incendiary device; a pistol, rifle, or shotgun; or a switch-blade knife, gravity knife, stiletto, sword, or dagger; or any club, baton, billy, black-jack, bludgeon, or metal knuckles.

(Acts 1936, Ex. Sess., No. 82, p. 51; Code 1940, T. 14, §174; Acts 1951, No. 784, p. 1378; Code 1975, §13-6-152; Acts 1994, 1st Ex. Sess., No. 94-817, §1.)

Why would you feel a person carrying is "looking for trouble".  Is it because you would not be able to control yourself if you carried a gun.  If so, you need to seek professional help now.

This is of great concern to me that you gun nuts are ccw at our schools.

Insulting me isn't helping anything.  What I said wasn't that AL law said one thing or another.  What I said was it is posted, clearly stated that no weapons are allowed on campus.  Were you planning to pet a kitty with a gun?  Seriously, they are made to shoot people with.  Isn't that bodily harm?  You aren't needed to protect campus since that is already done, so what exactly besides inflicting bodily harm do you need one for?  And why on an elementary school campus?  I don't assume most people can't control themselves, but I know that some do have issues with that.  

Guess I need to move this over here from the other discussion on this topic. The Federal Law has a stipulation that the person carrying the gun must have the intent to do bodily harm at the time they were in possession of their pistol on school grounds.  That piece of information is seldom discussed when the Federal Law is brought up.  As you can see from the situation over in Huntsville, no Federal charges were filed.

The information below is from an incident that occurred in 2012.  The 'legislation' that was proposed by McCutcheon was never passed.  My understanding of the new law that just went into effect is that it is illegal to carry concealed in a school where SRO's are present, but they are not present in every school.  Im still waiting for some confirmation on that though.

Either way, your comment was incorrect - it was definitely NOT illegal to carry inside a school with a CCW permit before this new law was passed:

Officials here say they were "shocked" to learn recently that Alabama law does not bar anyone with a permit from carrying a concealed weapon onto a school campus......

......According to state law (Sec.13A, 11-72c), it is legal to take a loaded gun on to school property providing the person has a permit.

While federal law does prohibit taking a concealed weapon on a campus, Muncey advised school officials it would be relatively futile to turn to federal authorities, "because there was no intent to do bodily harm," one of the stipulations in the federal law.

http://blog.al.com/breaking/20...legislator_work.html

Why would you think I would want to pet a kitty with a gun?  Is that what you would do if you had a gun?  The comments you make are based on feelings you have.  If you believe it is dangerous to carry a weapon in a concealed manner, it's really because you don't think you can trust yourself.  What you are doing is projecting your issues on others.  I don't have those issues, so stop.  I find it insulting that the reason you feel people CCW is to start "trouble".

It a great concern to me that you were allowed to procreate.

I don't guess you've had a problem with it all these many decades upon decades that this law has been in place.  Tell me, exactly how many CCW holders have been involved in school shootings in Alabama.

Why? Does that make YOUR groping of random womens asses at sporting events more "risky" now?

Pervert...Stalker.

Seriously, they are made to shoot people with.

Guns are made to fire a projectile in a certain direction.  Since you think they are made just 'to shoot people', I guess the fact that man figured out how to hunt with guns and feed their families was just by pure luck.  Guns are a tool, your comment is no different than saying a baseball bat is made to hit people in the back of the head with.

Isn't that bodily harm?

Did you completely overlook the word intent in the conversations?  It is illegal if your intent is to do bodily harm.  If I am carrying concealed, my intent is to protect myself if needed.  It is never my intent to do bodily harm when I carry my weapon.

You aren't needed to protect campus since that is already done, so what exactly besides inflicting bodily harm do you need one for?

Have you looked at the crime statistics on college campuses?  And who are you stating is protecting the campus?  The SRO?  The campus police?  I have to assume here that you don't think people should carry in public because the local police department is there to protect them.  What about their homes?  Why do we need guns in our homes when we are already protected by the local police department.

smh

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Then why did you and so many others blame the "Gun free zone" when Newtown happened. I remember reading post after post saying that if only people could carry guns on school grounds this wouldn't happen. 

Were you wrong then?

I watched the news last night and they had a principal from a Huntsville school on there saying it was against federal law to carry a gun on school campus. A friend that did go to the meeting told me that it was made very clear, at the meeting in Elgin, that you can't carry a gun on school campus. Are they all lying?

Like a wise man once said Captain; when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.

No, it isn't about trusting myself, but nice try at reflecting.  I trust myself and my kids fine.  I have no idea who is nuts and who isn't, and that could be a guy with a gun or one without one.  No offense, but I don't know you at all, and saying you don't mean any harm doesn't impress me a lot.  I made the start trouble comment only because the school I am referring to does have a resource officer, has security precautions in effect, and a clear rule that no weapons are allowed.  The parents send their kids to that school with that understanding and the students are generally under the impression that there aren't people wandering around carrying guns, and if I see you wandering campus with your gun (and just because one is concealed doesn't mean no one sees it), then I am not going to assume you are a great guy and not going to harm anyone.  It is a campus and there is no reason for anyone besides the resource officer to carry a gun there...it is posted not to. If you do carry one after seeing that sign you are deliberately breaking the school's rules on having weapons, and why would you do that?  You aren't needed to protect anyone, and so what would be the reason?

I suggest you go to YouTube...Jerry Jeff Walker..."****in in tha' wind" rather than try and make any sense with the LibTards on this Forum...

I just posted the law Jank;  yes, they are lying.  They can't arrest you for CCW.  That's why UNA had to make it a code of conduct issue with it's students.

Yes, because all the elementary kids are terrifying you?  And you resort again to insults when you know little about me.  And no thanks, I don't want you taking out anyone on my behalf.

The resource officer is down the hall with his gun and his training.   He has a radio, too.  Or should there be armed guards at the door of each classroom to make sure all are safe?  Really?  

DECATUR, Ala. (WHNT) – Alabama’s new gun law that went into effect August 1st has caused some confusion among many gun owners and even a few members of law enforcement. Now, school officials are taking steps to make certain there’s no confusion about bringing a gun onto a school campus.

The new gun law didn’t really change anything with regards to taking a gun onto school grounds, according to spokespersons with several school districts. In fact, at least two school superintendents we spoke with Monday say they’re taking action to make certain everyone is aware of the law. The bottom line: you can’t legally carry a gun within a thousand feet of a school.

Alabama schools are covered under federal law that establishes school campuses as gun-free zones. The new state law does nothing to change that, they say it’s a matter of student safety.

“Many of us are gun owners. But in and around children, there’s a lot of uncertainty,” according to Dwight Satterfield, Director of Safety and Discipline for Decatur City Schools. Satterfield says the gun ban extends beyond the campus to include many extracurricular activities, such as sporting events.

“I think the biggest concern will be at the athletic venues where sometimes tempers flare, people are upset and it just brings a new element to safety and security at athletic venues,” he says. Decatur City, Athens City and Morgan County Schools are all taking steps to put new warnings on every school house door so that everyone who enters will know the schools are still gun-free zones.

Satterfield says the gun ban is for both those who would open carry a weapon in plain view or someone who would conceal the weapon on their person. Important to note, it also applies to school employees who may be under the belief that they can carry a gun to work in their car under the new state law.

So to be clear, according to Satterfield, if you carry a gun in your car, you cannot legally drive onto school property to drop-off or pick-up your child. In fact, you can’t take a gun within a thousand feet of a school building. He says this applies to parents as well as school employees.

Satterfield says Decatur City Schools’ interpretation of the law comes from the State Board of Education, which also recommended additional signage be installed at each school door and to the entrance at school-sanctioned events.

The State Board of Education sent the same information to all public schools in Alabama.Read the memo from Dr. Tommy Bice, State Superintendent, to all city and county superintendents.

Satterfield says Decatur City Schools’ intention is to attempt to enforce that interpretation of the law, that no gun is allowed on campus, by parent or employee, with the only exception being law enforcement.

http://whnt.com/2013/08/12/ala...-off-limits-to-guns/

It's actually DEFLECTING.  Mine was an observation of your expressed thoughts.  I actually am needed to protect someone, ME and of course my family.  Don't worry, if some crazy liberal is stabbing, running over, and/or shooting you, I'll gladly keep my weapon holstered. 

I really hate to break it to you, but the school's rules have no backing of the law.