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Meghan McCain: We Need More Gay Republicans!

N NobluedogPost Master
Meghan McCain: We Need More Gay Republicans!


Here's a question: Can Meghan McCain, the blog-a-lot daughter of Senator John McCain, help bring the Republican Party into the twenty-first century? Well, with her column at The Daily Beast, and during her many television interviews, she sure is giving it a go. Today's screed, for instance, attempts to light a fire under the Republican posterior on the matter of including gay rights in the party platform:

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Gay marriage fits Republican values?

As the leader of the Yale College Republicans, I find my personal politics ever compared with the national standard of the GOP. As one might expect of any member of the Republican Party, my stances lean right on a number of issues: I am firmly committed to the foreign policy of President Bush, believe strongly in the private sphere, and often prioritize the rights of states above federal jurisdiction. While I support our President and will emphatically wave the Republican banner, my political views frequently diverge sharply from those of orthodox conservatives -- my friends refer to me as a "moderate" on most days and as a "liberal" before their morning caffeine. Much of this heckling derives from my positions on a number of social platforms: as opposed to many in the Republican Party, I find myself to be more accepting of traditionally "Democrat" views on topics ranging from gun control to the welfare state.
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TI The IncriminatorPost Master
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Originally posted by Nobluedog:
Meghan McCain: We Need More Gay Republicans!


Here's a question: Can Meghan McCain, the blog-a-lot daughter of Senator John McCain, help bring the Republican Party into the twenty-first century? Well, with her column at The Daily Beast, and during her many television interviews, she sure is giving it a go. Today's screed, for instance, attempts to light a fire under the Republican posterior on the matter of including gay rights in the party platform:

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Gay marriage fits Republican values?

As the leader of the Yale College Republicans, I find my personal politics ever compared with the national standard of the GOP. As one might expect of any member of the Republican Party, my stances lean right on a number of issues: I am firmly committed to the foreign policy of President Bush, believe strongly in the private sphere, and often prioritize the rights of states above federal jurisdiction. While I support our President and will emphatically wave the Republican banner, my political views frequently diverge sharply from those of orthodox conservatives -- my friends refer to me as a "moderate" on most days and as a "liberal" before their morning caffeine. Much of this heckling derives from my positions on a number of social platforms: as opposed to many in the Republican Party, I find myself to be more accepting of traditionally "Democrat" views on topics ranging from gun control to the welfare state.
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You're the leader of the Yale College Republicans, blew? And you find yourself agreeing with the policies of George Bush on foreign policy? Who would've ever thunk it? Welcome to our side, blew!
N NobluedogPost Master
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Originally posted by kperk:
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Originally posted by Nobluedog:
kperk, Here is the question. Will Meghan McCain win over the republicans to gay rights in the party platform? McCain says the republicans should back off from the religious right. Do you agree?


No. Especially if you're leading that sect of the party.




I know you are not trying to be a jerk, you can't help that you come across as one. I wanted to test the waters with you to see how you would respond. Your response is just like any dumb gop'er would respond.
TI The IncriminatorPost Master
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Originally posted by Nobluedog:
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Originally posted by kperk:
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Originally posted by Nobluedog:
kperk, Here is the question. Will Meghan McCain win over the republicans to gay rights in the party platform? McCain says the republicans should back off from the religious right. Do you agree?


No. Especially if you're leading that sect of the party.




I know you are not trying to be a jerk, you can't help that you come across as one. I wanted to test the waters with you to see how you would respond. Your response is just like any dumb gop'er would respond.


You're the one who boasted of being the Yale College Republican leader.....or were you just, cut n pasting again? Fool. Big Grin
Schnauzer1Schnauzer1Hall of Famer
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Originally posted by Nobluedog:
kperk, Here is the question. Will Meghan McCain win over the republicans to gay rights in the party platform? McCain says the republicans should back off from the religious right. Do you agree?


Lets throw the question back at you, should the democrats say, hum... back off from their socialistic views to get more republican votes?...the answer is NO, why should I or anyone else change the way we think is right just to get someone to like us more? Anyone that backs up from their beliefs doesn't have a backbone and should be watched very closely.
RP Rosco P. ColtraneEverybody Knows My Name
The Republicans need to keep their current position as it pertains to gays because issues like that is how they have school teachers,police officers,minimum wage workers showing up at tea parties when their taxes are not going up and it keeps those in the "Less than 50" voting for the republicans..less than 50 = earns less than 50k also uses less than 50 percent of their brains
N NobluedogPost Master
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Originally posted by Schnauzer1:
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Originally posted by Nobluedog:
kperk, Here is the question. Will Meghan McCain win over the republicans to gay rights in the party platform? McCain says the republicans should back off from the religious right. Do you agree?


Lets throw the question back at you, should the democrats say, hum... back off from their socialistic views to get more republican votes?...the answer is NO, why should I or anyone else change the way we think is right just to get someone to like us more? Anyone that backs up from their beliefs doesn't have a backbone and should be watched very closely.




You might wanna check out your party.

Nazism is often considered by scholars to be a form of fascism. While it incorporated elements from both left and right-wing politics, the Nazis formed most of their alliances on the right.[9] The Nazis were one of several historical groups that used the term National Socialism to describe themselves, and in the 1920s they became the largest such group.
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I'm not for total Socialism or capitalism. I think you have to have a little of both to be fair to all.


Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society, and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society.
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Schnauzer1Schnauzer1Hall of Famer
nobluedog,

Socialism isn't the point I was trying to make, I was pointing out that if you believe in something, why should you change your mind if someone else doesn't believe it. I wasn't trying to debate socialism....you can replace socialism with abortion, or stem cell research, or any other political stance that one side or the other is taking, if you change your mind to make it popular, you are a dangerous and deranged person.
TI The IncriminatorPost Master
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Originally posted by Nobluedog:
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Originally posted by Schnauzer1:
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Originally posted by Nobluedog:
kperk, Here is the question. Will Meghan McCain win over the republicans to gay rights in the party platform? McCain says the republicans should back off from the religious right. Do you agree?


Lets throw the question back at you, should the democrats say, hum... back off from their socialistic views to get more republican votes?...the answer is NO, why should I or anyone else change the way we think is right just to get someone to like us more? Anyone that backs up from their beliefs doesn't have a backbone and should be watched very closely.




You might wanna check out your party.

Nazism is often considered by scholars to be a form of fascism. While it incorporated elements from both left and right-wing politics, the Nazis formed most of their alliances on the right.[9] The Nazis were one of several historical groups that used the term National Socialism to describe themselves, and in the 1920s they became the largest such group.
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I'm not for total Socialism or capitalism. I think you have to have a little of both to be fair to all.


Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society, and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society.
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Hey goofy. Left-wing radicals are more like the nazi's in their constant attempts to destroy free speech. If you wiped the human waste from your eyes you would see that.
N NobluedogPost Master
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Originally posted by Schnauzer1:
nobluedog,

Socialism isn't the point I was trying to make, I was pointing out that if you believe in something, why should you change your mind if someone else doesn't believe it. I wasn't trying to debate socialism....you can replace socialism with abortion, or stem cell research, or any other political stance that one side or the other is taking, if you change your mind to make it popular, you are a dangerous and deranged person.




The same can be said about capitalism. This is why I'm not for socialism or capitalism 100%.
There are no pure systems. Most Americans view capitalism as their economic ideology but have no problem with socializing certain important parts of the economy like military, police, firefighters, etc.
8I8IHall of Famer
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Originally posted by Rosco P. Coltrane:
What are gay rights?What rights do gays not have?


I think it is "equal" rights.

In my line of work I've seen a few issues like:

Exemption from (Property among others) Tax on Partner’s Death
Assumption of Spouse’s Pension
Automatic Inheritance
Medical Decisions on Behalf of Partner
Certain Property Rights
Estate Planning Issues

Currently some of these aren't applicable in some states, but most are.
8I8IHall of Famer
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Originally posted by zippadeedoodah:
8I I certainly agree with you that gay couples should have those rights. In no fashion would I be opposed to that. Along with that, civil unions and, if needed, divorces.

Frankly, I've known gay couples that were better adjusted than most heterosexual couples I've met.

Just leave the word "marriage" out of it. Civil ceremony, fine; marriage, no.


Me too.

I look at it from a legal citizen, taxpayer point of view. If someone isn't a felon and paying taxes, they should be afforded the same rights as every other tax paying mark.
S SHELDIVRPost Master
"I'm not for total Socialism or capitalism. I think you have to have a little of both to be fair to all.


Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society, and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society.
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Are you sniffing glue??? Where do you get the idea, concept, construct, ideology, et. al, that there is some requirement for everyone to be at the same financial level???? That is not American Capitalism, you need to head to Cuba, you'd fit right in with Fidel and Raul.

You seem to hold the personal political belief that each month eveyone should tender everything they have to the central government to be equally distributed to every citizen regardless of his contribution, or lack thereof, to the total accumulation of wealth. You are definitely in the wrong country...just keep waiting for Obama to spread the wealth around...bring down those bad old rich Republicans. You think Bill and Hilliary would go along with this??? You know, turning in that twenty-five million they have raked in since leaving the WH.
TI The IncriminatorPost Master
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Originally posted by SHELDIVR:
"I'm not for total Socialism or capitalism. I think you have to have a little of both to be fair to all.


Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society, and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society.
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Are you sniffing glue??? Where do you get the idea, concept, construct, ideology, et. al, that there is some requirement for everyone to be at the same financial level???? That is not American Capitalism, you need to head to Cuba, you'd fit right in with Fidel and Raul.

You seem to hold the personal political belief that each month eveyone should tender everything they have to the central government to be equally distributed to every citizen regardless of his contribution, or lack thereof, to the total accumulation of wealth. You are definitely in the wrong country...just keep waiting for Obama to spread the wealth around...bring down those bad old rich Republicans. You think Bill and Hilliary would go along with this??? You know, turning in that twenty-five million they have raked in since leaving the WH.[/QUOTE]



Don't forget the millions they swindled from the taxpayers in the whitewater scam.

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