Miami Face-Eater "Loved God/always read the Bible..."

Would you expect his girlfriend to say, "Yes, my boyfriend was a zombie in training. I'll miss him now that he's been shot 47 times, but at least I'll no longer have to put up with kissing a man with decaying body parts between his teeth?"

Shocked that he carried a Bible? Hardly. I could carry War and Peace in the original Russian, but that wouldn't mean that I could or would read it. Me thinks the girlfriend is preparing for a lawsuit. After all, the neo-zombie is the victim here, right? Just in the FWIWD, I bet the victim looked just like Obama's uncle.

 When he left he had his Bible in his hand," his girlfriend told WFOR. "That wasn’t him, that was his body but it wasn't his spirit.  Somebody did this to him."

Somebody did this to him? Hmmmmmmmmmm... 

the debil made him do it... it was the debil!

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The "Christians" that say/ask those things are to be pitied.

Give examples of  anyone asking you that question. I'll bet you are your own inquirer. am I correct?

No Semi, let's see proof of robs claim.

According to Rudy Eugene's girlfriend: "He loved God. He always read the Bible. He would give you knowledge on the Bible. Everywhere he went his Bible went. When he left he had his Bible in his hand..."

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Eugene had a criminal past and has the notoriety of being the first person ever tasered by the North Miami Police Department after he was arrested for beating and threatening to kill his mother in 2008. Police told ABC affiliate WPLG that they had to taser him three times to subdue him.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/miami...es/story?id=16458696

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I haven't got time right now, I'm about to leave for the afternoon. If you want to look for them before I get back, Search Atheist under Bill Gray. You'll find several of them. Gingee has made negative remarks about Atheist. You can look up his post too.

best working/ Robustus, according to atheist spokesman Sam Harris,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCofmZlC72g&feature=relmfu 

Rudy Eugene had no control over eating faces. He claims NO FREE WILL. So drop it.

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Anyone with good sense wouldn't ask a person how they know right from wrong, or how they can have good strong morals or whatever, without a god. Just imagine, it's 2012 and there are people that think they can't live right or be an asset to society without that god. Of course it has to be the way they think their own particular god wants it.

@ Best:

Uh-huh.

The thing is... THEY think they have it all figured out, this moral pillars of the community bulls$%&t.

The only problem I have with that (other than it being superstitious bull$#%*) is that 'god' doesn't seem to be working very well for them.

Go figure....Christians have their angry, vengeful, all-powerful, all-knowing god, their 'instruction manual' full of thou shalts and thou shalt nots, they have their weekly (or twice weekly) doctrine reinforcement meetings in conveniently located meeting places on almost every corner. (NO excuses for missing a recharge!) They have signs all over the place reminding them of who they say is in charge, they have representatives standing on streetcorners yelling at anyone and everyone who will listen about how to 'get right' and live a morally and socially acceptable lifestyle, AND....Most EVERYBODY around here is a #$%*&in' christian...

You'd think that they would all be shining, righteous examples of what they preach is wholesome and good for the whole world to see....

*ya ready for that great big bull#$%&*t wall to come crumbling down?*

*here it comes...*

WHY the need for all the GUNS?

Huh?  Doubleyou-Tee-Eff is up with all the heat?

They BRAG about their personal ****nals to each other.

 They are completely surrounded by like-minded folks who believe much as they do....

This being the case, then........

WHY........ARE.......THEY......SO.......AFRAID.......OF.......EACH.......OTHER??????

It ain't heathens rippin' 'em off or causing them grief...

IT'S...........OTHER..........#$%*&IN'...............CHRISTIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Other than when I was in the Army, I never felt the need to carry a gun in my life.

Hmm.... Mebbe it's the company I keep.  

wul pup???? feel better???

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Naw, I don't.

Mebbe I could if somebody could answer that QUESTION.

C'mon all you pillars of christian moral righteousness.....Let's hear it.

Why are you all so afraid of each other down here in the jesusland of biblical thumpiness that everybody's gotta pack heat and advertise it TO EACH OTHER?  Don't deny it. You are. (I'm pretty sure I know the answer-but I wanna hear what kinda convoluted logic ya got to 'splain it.)

Tell me what's the difference between Rudy the drug-addled Zombie and two hayseeds shooting each other over bible-verses? I see a double negative as far as religion is concerned. But 'enlighten me.'

*makin' some $%#*in' popcorn*

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Don't put any butter/salt on that popcorn. Some religions say it's a sin to eat butter. Other religions say it's a sin to eat salt!! To be safe, you don't want either one on the popcorn. You just might get choked & go to Hell & then they'll say "See, I tried to tell you".

Outlaw snakes:

http://www.kansascity.com/2012...handling-pastor.html

pup

*makin' some $%#*in' popcorn*

Do you microwave, or use a popper?

That's just pure insanity. 

@Best:

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July 19, 1996

In Dadeville, Alabama, Mr. Gabel Taylor, 38, who had just prevailed in an informal Bible-quoting contest, was shot to death by the loser.

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Now you have.

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I understand the whole "better to have it and never need it" mentality, but to have it-you must first have to think you'll eventually need it. If you think you'll eventually need it, that means ya don't trust the people around ya. So happens that most of the people around ya are christians.  That ain't sayin' much on their behalf.

(The implied statement being "My neighbors are evil nutbags and I'm gonna hafta shoot one of 'em sooner or later.")  Go christians....

Most of what I've seen down here is relatively insecure people who usually don't interact well with others so they need to carry a gun in case communications fail them badly.  Well...That and everybody's a 'tough guy' when they're packin'.   

I've seen it.  Yes, I know... an armed society is a polite (read: fearful) society.  I guess I just came from a place that isn't crammed with gun-toting bible jerks.

Almost every argument or debate I've seen IRL since I've been in Alabama has ended with ".....and I'll shoot you" when the words finally fail.

Nice, eh?  Every one of 'em christians.

I'm not anti-gun by any means. I've just never needed one to deal with another human being.  Even the armed ones which were either LEOs or criminals.

I also find it kinda hilarious that the majority who preaches god and righteousness is so afraid by nature......*making Lewis Black incredulous, cheek-flapping"wubbawubbawubba" noise*....ITSELF!

Lulz.

@ Vic:  

 I usually just strap a bag of kernels to the exhaust manifolds and run 'er in place at 8,000 til the bag explodes.

I like to run around and catch 'em on my tongue like snowflakes.

No, I said I had never heard that it was a big problem around here. Certainly no reason to "tote" a gun. 

Road Puppy, the people I know don't carry guns looking to shoot other people.  Maybe my "hicks" are more civilized. I guess "I'll shoot you" is somehow worse than "I'll kill you, you ************", that you can hear being said all over the country. What do the thugs and gangbangers say? "I'll slap your face"? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Oh, you want to see "killing mad" and upset? Let two old church biddies get into it, especially over some old widower.

--------------------Maybe it's not a big problem. But even one instance of that IS a problem. Then again maybe the ones who would've complained about it are already dead. That's just one the Advisor got ahold of.  

The scanner sings nightly about arguments ending in gunfire. They're all christians. What else am I s'posed to think?

/shrug

Like the church sign over in East Florence says : "Words are either bombs or bouquets."

 More so when yer packin'.

My personal opinion-Better to not have a gun and stop to think and choose words more carefully than to shoot somebody for a stupid reason. You need one in the house to stop a criminal from doing you or your family harm? Great. That;s understandable. ya gotta defend yer castle, but the average guy driving around with a piece in the door pocket is a loose cannon with a big mouth. He can be. He has 'wiseass insurance.'

 LOL! @ Church biddies.  

Pup you look kinda silly on your bike without a Desert Eagle laying on you handle bars.

I’ve been beside you at red lights on more than one occasion. I made out like I didn’t know you.

A person suffering from mental illness could be carrying Grimm's Fairy Tales, but that wouldn't have anything to do with his condition. In fact, had that particular item been found, this would be a non-story.

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Ah, LJ... ya unsociable bastid. What'dja do that for?    Next time say sumpin', chooch.

A shootin' iron is pretty useless on a bike seein' as both hands are needed usually for maneuvering ability. Not always, but usually.  There's tricks and traps aplenty without the need for a firearm.

I bet yer a real pizzer IRL.  I bet ya are.

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A non-story?? Has it been reported/confirmed that he was suffering from a mental illness? 

It was a story because the guy ATE another persons face off!! From what is being reported they believe he was on some kind of drug, probably bath salts.

I don't think I have read anywhere that he had a mental condition.

HAHA he had a mental condition after he ate the “bath salts”.

Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

If he was on a drug, he definitely was not in a stable state of mind. 'Mental illness' does not have to be long term. I read that he growled at the cops, not something a rational person would do. The story of him eating a person's face is news, that he had a Bible with him is not.

Just an added thought.

When religion is involved in any way in a crime, it makes the news. Sometimes the link is direct, most of the time it is tenuous at best. We don't read of an 'atheist'  going postal because there is no way to know he was unless he had a copy of Atheists for Idiots in his pocket. But should someone have a Bible or the Qur'an, then we can blame religion. From what I have observed, and studies prove this, the atheists know the Bible better than most Christians. So if a Bible is found on someone who just committed a murder, how do we know that person was not an atheist who was on his mission to show others the errors of the Bible?  If he had a copy of Mein Kampf, is he studying to be a communist or trying to figure out what made Hitler tick?

My mind wanders to an old Twilight Zone episode that became quite famous. The aliens visitors who wanted to serve man. Promised all kinds of great things and cured disease, famine, flood, etc.  It was the utopia the people wanted.  Until the 'manual'  was finally decoded and was entitled "How To Serve Man", a cookbook.

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I look at this a different way. With a population that is overwhelmingly Christian the odds are if a crime is committed it is going to be a Christian perpetrator. I don't think the media goes out of its way to search these crimes out. There is no need to. In this particular case the girlfriend seems to want to make it clear that he was a good Christian man. I have no idea what her motive is other than maybe as far as she was concerned he was.

Zazu, there is no such thing as Atheist for idiots...nice shot there. Here is my observation of you, you are very passive agressive. Just my opinion of course but since you came here to "study" us so to speak I thought I would give you my assessment of your own postings.

You are also like many others that drag out the old  "no true scotsman"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

No true Scotsman is an informal logical fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion.^[1] When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim, rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original universal claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule.

The use of the term was advanced by philosopher Antony Flew in his 1975 book Thinking About Thinking: Do I sincerely want to be right?.^[2]

Imagine Hamish McDonald, a Scotsman, sitting down with his Glasgow Morning Herald and seeing an article about how the "Brighton Sex Maniac Strikes Again." Hamish is shocked and declares that "No Scotsman would do such a thing." The next day he sits down to read his Glasgow Morning Herald again and this time finds an article about an Aberdeen man whose brutal actions make the Brighton sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that Hamish was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this? Not likely. This time he says, "No true Scotsman would do such a thing."

—Antony Flew, <cite>Thinking About Thinking</cite>

When the statement "all A are B" is qualified like this to exclude those A which are not B, this is a form of begging the question; the conclusion is assumed by the definition of "true A".

So, no matter how many examples or news articles you are presented showing you that Christians (and other religious people) commit horrible crimes against humanity, you will deny that they are "true Christians" LOL

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And that, is the unmistakable sound of a bottom of a barrel being scraped.

Trying to make this story anything more than a nut on bath salts in scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Originally Posted by A. Robustus:

The bottom of the barrel?  Do you deny atheists are more studied in Christianity than the Christians?  Do you deny that atheists spend a lot of time arguing against religion and consider anyone with faith to be mentally unstable? Did you not post this thread to cast a negative view on religion by associating it with a person who was obviously unstable due to drugs?

I made a few simply 'what if's'. and you immediately condemn the idea.  If a person who commits a crime does not have any religious material on them, would that mean that they are atheist?

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1. Atheists are sometimes more studied in Christianity (and other religions) than Christians. What's your point?
2a. Some atheists sometimes spend a lot of time arguing against the everyday effects and intrusion of religion into everyone's life. What's your point?
2b. I don't know of one single atheist that thinks that "anyone with faith to be mentally unstable". That is ridiculous.
3. No, I posted this thread to demonstrate that having faith and studying the Bible doesn't make one moral. This is in answer to those on this forum who suggest that atheists CAN'T be moral without faith or a Bible. Everything else are your own made up and kooky assumptions.
4. Uh, your innocent 'what ifs' included the idea that an atheist (posing as a Christian) would purposely conceive of actually and literally chewing some poor old man's face off in order to make the Bible look bad.  That. Is. Insane!

Your knee-jerk defensiveness is not serving you well at all.

1.Self explanatory

2.a-Self explanatory, b-  "More importantly, anyone who willingly suspends their natural disbelief in the ridiculous and thinks they have a personal relationship with an invisible deity who offers life after death, is capable of anything."   You use 'ridiculous' a lot to describe religion. You also make a distinct connection between religion and unpredictable behavior. I have seen many times that people who have faith are called delusional.  Let's not forget, the infamous writing "The God Delusion".

3.You just conveniently forgot to mention the use of drugs in the equation. I agree that being religious does not make one any more moral than someone who isn't.

4. My 'what if' did not apply to the face eater.  I was using a hypothetical situation where someone committed a murder who was carrying a Bible. Just possessing a particular book does not give any idea as to how the person was using it.  I have a book by Carl Sagan because of the images in it.

I am not defensive. You assume I am Christian,  I am not.  I am agnostic.