Michael Moore advocates slavery

Actually, the idea that all money is the property of the state is a fascist ideal. Moore, even fatter than Mussolini. Moore's portfolio included Halliburton stock.

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Originally posted by elinterventor01:
Actually, the idea that all money is the property of the state is a fascist ideal. Moore, even fatter than Mussolini. Moore's portfolio included Halliburton stock.

You're correct, I'm just predisposed to Moore coming from a communist direction.

Funny m-, I always thought of Moore coming from a stoopid butthole direction.

WOW MARK!!!!!!!!!! MAN how you can stretch a TITLE for a THREAD!!!!!!!!
WHERE was "slavery" mentioned in this interview????
And what Michael Moore was REFERRING to was the tax breaks for the top 2%.

Since MOST who read this right wing drivel do not actually follow the link, here is THE REST OF THE STORY and QOUTE from Michael Moore (you really DO have a FOXOPHILED mind, DANGEROUS!)

"I think we need to go back to taxing these people at the proper rates. They need to -- we need to see these jobs as something we some, that we collectively own as Americans and you can't just steal our jobs and take them someplace else," Moore concluded.

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Originally posted by rocky:
And what Michael Moore was REFERRING to was the tax breaks for the top 2%.

Wouldn't that include his enormous azz?

He needs to practice what he preaches, and give ALL of his wealth back to "the people".

Why don't the wealthy Liberals realize that they can send a larger check to the IRS if they are so "outraged"? However, many go to great lengths to avoid paying taxes.

Let's take John Kerry for example. The year he ran for president he the and ketchup queen showed an income of $5m+. However, they paid an effective tax on that money of only 12% due to it being sheltered in trusts and being invested in munis. The averaged middle class family paid an effective income tax rate of nearly 20%. John Kerry also doesn't dock his sailboat in MA because the taxes are lower in neighbooring states. Why would such a "bleeding heart" go to these lengths to avoid paying his share?

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Originally posted by rocky:
WOW MARK!!!!!!!!!! MAN how you can stretch a TITLE for a THREAD!!!!!!!!
WHERE was "slavery" mentioned in this interview????
And what Michael Moore was REFERRING to was the tax breaks for the top 2%.

Since MOST who read this right wing drivel do not actually follow the link, here is THE REST OF THE STORY and QOUTE from Michael Moore (you really DO have a FOXOPHILED mind, DANGEROUS!)

"I think we need to go back to taxing these people at the proper rates. They need to -- we need to see these jobs as something we some, that we collectively own as Americans and you can't just steal our jobs and take them someplace else," Moore concluded.

Apparently you don't understand the concept of "logical conclusion".

Michael Moore is advocating, defined in it's broadest sense, what amounts to the government having the power to limit an individual's income and property. When the government has that kind of overt control over an individual's life, said individual is essentially a slave to the government. Failure to recognize this is what is truly "DANGEROUS!"

Notice how Moore refers to "our jobs"? As though they belong to the people collectively? The implication is that a business is started to provide jobs, which is completely WRONG. Jobs are a side effect of the initiation of a business enterprise, or of its growth. In other words, Jobs are the effect, not the cause. Moore has it wrong as do you.

Finally, the obstacle for you and your ilk is that you seem to have been convinced that such measures will only apply to the top 2%... it would only be the beginning. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Does that really sound good to you, basically turning everyone into a beggar?

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Originally posted by Kenny Powers:
Why don't the wealthy Liberals realize that they can send a larger check to the IRS if they are so "outraged"? However, many go to great lengths to avoid paying taxes.

Let's take John Kerry for example. The year he ran for president he the and ketchup queen showed an income of $5m+. However, they paid an effective tax on that money of only 12% due to it being sheltered in trusts and being invested in munis. The averaged middle class family paid an effective income tax rate of nearly 20%. John Kerry also doesn't dock his sailboat in MA because the taxes are lower in neighbooring states. Why would such a "bleeding heart" go to these lengths to avoid paying his share?

And yet you conservatives INSISTED that the Bush tax cuts should be extended for the rich!

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Originally posted by O No!:

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Originally posted by Kenny Powers:
Why don't the wealthy Liberals realize that they can send a larger check to the IRS if they are so "outraged"? However, many go to great lengths to avoid paying taxes.

Let's take John Kerry for example. The year he ran for president he the and ketchup queen showed an income of $5m+. However, they paid an effective tax on that money of only 12% due to it being sheltered in trusts and being invested in munis. The averaged middle class family paid an effective income tax rate of nearly 20%. John Kerry also doesn't dock his sailboat in MA because the taxes are lower in neighbooring states. Why would such a "bleeding heart" go to these lengths to avoid paying his share?

And yet you conservatives INSISTED that the Bush tax cuts should be extended for the rich!

The insistence was that they be included, not singled out.

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Originally posted by O No!:

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Originally posted by Kenny Powers:
Why don't the wealthy Liberals realize that they can send a larger check to the IRS if they are so "outraged"? However, many go to great lengths to avoid paying taxes.

Let's take John Kerry for example. The year he ran for president he the and ketchup queen showed an income of $5m+. However, they paid an effective tax on that money of only 12% due to it being sheltered in trusts and being invested in munis. The averaged middle class family paid an effective income tax rate of nearly 20%. John Kerry also doesn't dock his sailboat in MA because the taxes are lower in neighbooring states. Why would such a "bleeding heart" go to these lengths to avoid paying his share?

And yet you conservatives INSISTED that the Bush tax cuts should be extended for the rich!

First, I'm a Libertarian. Second, if you are giving tax cuts for the purpose of economic stimulation then it has to go to the people who pay taxes. The top 5% pay over 50% of the taxes. I would also add that in the EGTRA of '02 a family of 4 that makes $40k went from having a tax bill of $1400 to $0.

You are spewing the same old political drivel. Bring something of substance, not tired old political rhetoric.

I didn't know anyone paid attention to anything the fat b@$+@rd says.

More "twist and shout" from the FOXOPHILED crowd! marksw59 TRIED to make this thread SEEM that Michael Moore was advocating slavery, when in actuality. Michael Moore was advocating ABOLISHING the slavery that the lower 98% of all TAXPAYERS pay towards the WEALTH of the top 2%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A FOXOPHILED mind at WORK!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by rocky:
More "twist and shout" from the FOXOPHILED crowd! marksw59 TRIED to make this thread SEEM that Michael Moore was advocating slavery, when in actuality. Michael Moore was advocating ABOLISHING the slavery that the lower 98% of all TAXPAYERS pay towards the WEALTH of the top 2%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A FOXOPHILED mind at WORK!!!!!!!!!!!

"roxy", You just keep on buying what that fat retard spews and one day you'll be able to utter the phrase "you want fries with that" with real meaning.

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Originally posted by O No!:

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Originally posted by Kenny Powers:
Why don't the wealthy Liberals realize that they can send a larger check to the IRS if they are so "outraged"? However, many go to great lengths to avoid paying taxes.

Let's take John Kerry for example. The year he ran for president he the and ketchup queen showed an income of $5m+. However, they paid an effective tax on that money of only 12% due to it being sheltered in trusts and being invested in munis. The averaged middle class family paid an effective income tax rate of nearly 20%. John Kerry also doesn't dock his sailboat in MA because the taxes are lower in neighbooring states. Why would such a "bleeding heart" go to these lengths to avoid paying his share?

And yet you conservatives INSISTED that the Bush tax cuts should be extended for the rich!

As the results of the higher tax rate would be less revenue, yes!

In 2009, 743 people with dual UK/US citizenship renounced their US citizenship, took their wealth and left. Most left to a nation with low taxes -- the US is the only nation, except the Philippines, that taxes income outside its borders.

During the Cold War, only a few did this. More and more, reality appears to be a bad version of an Ayn Rand novel.

I'm sure Moore would agree with this greenie:

"Land is the private property of none. Rather, everyone has the right to beneficially utilize it by working, farming or pasturing as long as he and his heirs live on it - to satisfy their needs, but without employing others with or without a wage. If lands were privately owned, only the living would have a share in it.

Land is permanent, while those who benefit from the land undergo, in the course of time, changes in profession, capabilities and existence.

The aspiration of the new socialist society is to create a society which is happy because it is free. This can only be achieved by satisfying, man's material and spiritual needs, and that, in turn, comes about through the liberation of these needs from the control of others. Satisfaction of these needs must be attained without exploiting or enslaving others; otherwise, the aspirations of the new socialist society are contradicted."

From The Green Book by Khadaffi

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Originally posted by elinterventor01:
I'm sure Moore would agree with this greenie:

"Land is the private property of none. Rather, everyone has the right to beneficially utilize it by working, farming or pasturing as long as he and his heirs live on it - to satisfy their needs, but without employing others with or without a wage. If lands were privately owned, only the living would have a share in it.

Land is permanent, while those who benefit from the land undergo, in the course of time, changes in profession, capabilities and existence.

The aspiration of the new socialist society is to create a society which is happy because it is free. This can only be achieved by satisfying, man's material and spiritual needs, and that, in turn, comes about through the liberation of these needs from the control of others. Satisfaction of these needs must be attained without exploiting or enslaving others; otherwise, the aspirations of the new socialist society are contradicted."

From The Green Book by Khadaffi

Yep, Moore and Khadaffi... birds -err- turkeys of a feather....

You folks on here bad-mouthing Mr. Moore don't have a clue about what you are talking about. He is more 'American" than all of your wing-nuts put together. You should educate yourself before throwing mud on such a great American as Moore.

Happiness would be Michael Moore's face on a milk carton.....

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Originally posted by rocky:
More "twist and shout" from the FOXOPHILED crowd! marksw59 TRIED to make this thread SEEM that Michael Moore was advocating slavery, when in actuality. Michael Moore was advocating ABOLISHING the slavery that the lower 98% of all TAXPAYERS pay towards the WEALTH of the top 2%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A FOXOPHILED mind at WORK!!!!!!!!!!!

2% of a population working to support the other 98% by gunpoint sounds like slavery to me...

Look, the real issue is if you believe a person "owns" himself and his labor...doesn't matter what is in his bank account...either a person owns himself and his labor...or he doensn't...

I happen to believe he does...call me crazy but I think the federal income tax rate for all should be zero. Just because we have accepted an income tax for a hundred years doesnn't make it right.

Don't think rich or poor...think federal goverment...they can set the income tax rate to anything they want, for any income level...In essense they have the power right now to dictate to anyone at any income level, how much you can make...

Anyone care to define slavery again?

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Originally posted by JimiHendrix:
You folks on here bad-mouthing Mr. Moore don't have a clue about what you are talking about. He is more 'American" than all of your wing-nuts put together. You should educate yourself before throwing mud on such a great American as Moore.

Jimi, you should really give up the "hard stuff", it's wreaking havoc upon your judgment.

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Originally posted by Renegade Nation:

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Originally posted by rocky:
More "twist and shout" from the FOXOPHILED crowd! marksw59 TRIED to make this thread SEEM that Michael Moore was advocating slavery, when in actuality. Michael Moore was advocating ABOLISHING the slavery that the lower 98% of all TAXPAYERS pay towards the WEALTH of the top 2%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A FOXOPHILED mind at WORK!!!!!!!!!!!

2% of a population working to support the other 98% by gunpoint sounds like slavery to me...

Look, the real issue is if you believe a person "owns" himself and his labor...doesn't matter what is in his bank account...either a person owns himself and his labor...or he doensn't...

I happen to believe he does...call me crazy but I think the federal income tax rate for all should be zero. Just because we have accepted an income tax for a hundred years doesnn't make it right.

Don't think rich or poor...think federal goverment...they can set the income tax rate to anything they want, for any income level...In essense they have the power right now to dictate to anyone at any income level, how much you can make...

Anyone care to define slavery again?

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."---Thomas Jefferson
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies.”---Ron Paul
"That's what governments are for... get in a man's way."---Mal Reynolds Capt. of Serenity, "Firefly-Class" spaceship

THESE 3 THINGS CANNOT BE SAID ENOUGH Moreover, I agree wholeheartedly with what the Renegade has to say.

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Originally posted by marksw59:

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Originally posted by Renegade Nation:

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Originally posted by rocky:
More "twist and shout" from the FOXOPHILED crowd! marksw59 TRIED to make this thread SEEM that Michael Moore was advocating slavery, when in actuality. Michael Moore was advocating ABOLISHING the slavery that the lower 98% of all TAXPAYERS pay towards the WEALTH of the top 2%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A FOXOPHILED mind at WORK!!!!!!!!!!!

2% of a population working to support the other 98% by gunpoint sounds like slavery to me...

Look, the real issue is if you believe a person "owns" himself and his labor...doesn't matter what is in his bank account...either a person owns himself and his labor...or he doensn't...

I happen to believe he does...call me crazy but I think the federal income tax rate for all should be zero. Just because we have accepted an income tax for a hundred years doesnn't make it right.

Don't think rich or poor...think federal goverment...they can set the income tax rate to anything they want, for any income level...In essense they have the power right now to dictate to anyone at any income level, how much you can make...

Anyone care to define slavery again?

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."---Thomas Jefferson
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies.”---Ron Paul
"That's what governments are for... get in a man's way."---Mal Reynolds Capt. of Serenity, "Firefly-Class" spaceship

THESE 3 THINGS CANNOT BE SAID ENOUGH Moreover, I agree wholeheartedly with what the Renegade has to say.

With the likes of you quoting him, Mr. Jefferson must be spinning in his grave. You are not worthy to speak his name.

You also insult millions of Firefly fans.

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Originally posted by JimiHendrix:
You folks on here bad-mouthing Mr. Moore don't have a clue about what you are talking about. He is more 'American" than all of your wing-nuts put together. You should educate yourself before throwing mud on such a great American as Moore.

Thanks. I needed a laugh. Parody posters crack me up.

However, if you are serious; the nurses there ar Riverbend need to hurry up and give you a strong sedative before you harm yourself.