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All the illegal immigrants are still getting everything free at school, WE have to pay for it, getting free medical, free food, free lunches, free everything, free delivery of babies....that WE are paying for (of course we are paying for the other LAZY bums who were BORN here who draw a check and buy their cigarettes, refusing to work  and get everything free too).  Did you know immigrants are applying for disability and getting it. I see them functioning better than myself. HOW DO THEY GET DISABILITY..... Most are having more and more children and drawing check for them and bring home disability which is  more money than I bring home. Do you see ANYTHING wrong with this?  The system is wrong, wrong , wrong......The honest working person is working hard for OUR families and our taxes which have increased pays the immigrants and those who are legal bums who ARENT and WONT work and the government is getting as much of the rest of what we make.

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This administration is looking for anyone to put on the dole, they are adding

as many as they can in preparation for nationalization. These brought and

paid for voters are all part of the redistribution of money tax payers are being

swindled out of daily. Just like the democrat healthcare isn't about health

insurance, it never was, it's all about redistribution of money you shouldn't

have in the first place.

I can't believe we are feeding poor hungry children in this country! They should go without unless their parents can feed them. Why should they get food? Its not like they can work. If we can't put them to work in factories then they shouldn't be able to eat like the rest of us hard working folk.

 

What is the world coming to when babies are being born in hospitals even when their parents can't afford the bill. They should be born in the street where they belong! 

 

 

 

American children are going hungry, illegal immigrants should not be getting disability and EVERYTHING FREE. You go ahead and freely donate your paycheck to feed the illegals....DO you KNOW what illegal MEANS?  NON abiding by the LAW!!!!! Sure, I would want a better life, but there are legal ways to do this. I know a lot of hispanics who are outraged because they do things the right way and others get by with FREE....EVERYTHING, including 7-8 disability checks while they have more babies and draw those checks. Why dont you donate you whole salary to take care of those who WONT work and keep having babies here.  They need to follow the law and if I did something illegal I would be arrested......but then again I am an American, born and raised here......let them come here and live off of us....

Originally Posted by Jankinonya:

I can't believe we are feeding poor hungry children in this country! They should go without unless their parents can feed them. Why should they get food? Its not like they can work. If we can't put them to work in factories then they shouldn't be able to eat like the rest of us hard working folk.

 

What is the world coming to when babies are being born in hospitals even when their parents can't afford the bill. They should be born in the street where they belong! 

 

 

 

You know Jank I agree to a point but have two questions?

Do you really think the money goes for the kids when someone has have several kids while on assistance?

Exactly how many kids from one mother who has been on assistance for years and years should the public at large be required to pay for?

Originally Posted by CountryGal:

American children are going hungry, illegal immigrants should not be getting disability and EVERYTHING FREE. You go ahead and freely donate your paycheck to feed the illegals....DO you KNOW what illegal MEANS?  NON abiding by the LAW!!!!! Sure, I would want a better life, but there are legal ways to do this. I know a lot of hispanics who are outraged because they do things the right way and others get by with FREE....EVERYTHING, including 7-8 disability checks while they have more babies and draw those checks. Why dont you donate you whole salary to take care of those who WONT work and keep having babies here.  They need to follow the law and if I did something illegal I would be arrested......but then again I am an American, born and raised here......let them come here and live off of us....

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Yes I know what illegal means. Your rant was pointed towards the children. Children don't have the power to do anything about the situation they are in. Do you want them to go hungry, not get medical treatment, because their parents broke the law? What about children born to legal citizens who break the law. Do they go hungry too? 

 

The answer is to enforce the laws and crack down on the ones that are breaking them. Not starve children because they had the misfortune of being born to irresponsible parents. 

 

The ones that come here and want to work and take care of their own families should be given legal status to stay here. Those that just come to bilk the system need to be sent back home. If they are not taking care of their children then we should step in and do it. Children are innocent. Yes, I would and have given money to feed hungry children. I never ask where they were born or to what country their parents belong to. 

 

You could help too. There is a really great organization here in the Shoals called Pack them with Love. They send a back pack filled with food home with hungry children every Friday from school. They don't ask what their parents have done or if their parents are here legally. They just feed the children. Its what civilized societies do.

Originally Posted by HIFLYER2:
Originally Posted by Jankinonya:

I can't believe we are feeding poor hungry children in this country! They should go without unless their parents can feed them. Why should they get food? Its not like they can work. If we can't put them to work in factories then they shouldn't be able to eat like the rest of us hard working folk.

 

What is the world coming to when babies are being born in hospitals even when their parents can't afford the bill. They should be born in the street where they belong! 

 

 

 

You know Jank I agree to a point but have two questions?

Do you really think the money goes for the kids when someone has have several kids while on assistance?

Exactly how many kids from one mother who has been on assistance for years and years should the public at large be required to pay for?

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I do think that assistance helps the children. I think without it they would be in far worse shape. I don't have the answer to your last question. Its one of those question with no real answer. The only thing I know that is right is to not let children starve if we can help it.

 

We see parents of all walks of life who don't take care of the children they have. I know a very wealthy woman that doesn't do a very good job of caring for her children. She is more concerned with her self. I have a friend that regularly feeds them dinner. Of course they can afford to take care of their own children, but if they are not going to then someone has to. 

 

I don't think we can have the freedoms we all hold so dear and also start dictating to people how many children they can have. Sometimes freedom comes with a price. I am willing to pay to not have the government tell me what I can and can't do with my body. I don't want to see this country become China in that respect. 

 

There have been some women (and men) I wish we could sterilize though.

How are these illegal immigrants getting disability? You have to have a SS number and pay in to even be eligible. The amount you receive is based on how much you have paid in. 

 

The only way that anyone that is here illegally could be drawing a disability check from the government is if they were scamming the system. It's not like the government is just handing it out to them with full knowledge of them being illegal. So, in that case, we have a problem with those that are willing to forge documents and obtain fake SS cards. There are laws to deal with them. They just have to get caught. I would suggest that if you TRULY know of a person receiving disability illegally, then you should report them. 

 

I watched a show one time where people who were scamming the disability system were taped doing all kinds of work they weren't supposed to be able to do anymore. They were arrested and charged with fraud (among other things) So, Countrygal, if you really have knowledge of this going on, would you please step up and do something about it? Even if its not an illegal immigrant scamming the disability system you should report it, regardless of whether they were born here or not. Illegal is illegal, no matter where you are from.

 

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/EN-05-11051.pdf

Jank,

 

Can you see a difference between...

 

"You could help too. There is a really great organization here in the Shoals called Pack them with Love. They send a back pack filled with food home with hungry children every Friday from school. They don't ask what their parents have done or if their parents are here legally. They just feed the children. Its what civilized societies do."

 

 

"We see parents of all walks of life who don't take care of the children they have. I know a very wealthy woman that doesn't do a very good job of caring for her children. She is more concerned with her self. I have a friend that regularly feeds them dinner. Of course they can afford to take care of their own children, but if they are not going to then someone has to."

 

And I’m not talking about a difference in income.

Originally Posted by budsfarm:

Jank,

 

Can you see a difference between...

 

"You could help too. There is a really great organization here in the Shoals called Pack them with Love. They send a back pack filled with food home with hungry children every Friday from school. They don't ask what their parents have done or if their parents are here legally. They just feed the children. Its what civilized societies do."

 

AND...

 

 

"We see parents of all walks of life who don't take care of the children they have. I know a very wealthy woman that doesn't do a very good job of caring for her children. She is more concerned with her self. I have a friend that regularly feeds them dinner. Of course they can afford to take care of their own children, but if they are not going to then someone has to."

 

And I’m not talking about a difference in income or being legal or not.

 

Originally Posted by Jankinonya:

You will need to be specific Bud. It all sounds like the responsibility we have to the children in this world to me.

 

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I’ll try Jank, based on my interpretation of what you wrote.  So if I get it wrong, be easy on me.

 

Both Pack and your friend [and you] share a common passion...the welfare of any child.  Admirable.  We all should.  This is not about political agendas.

 

The difference is accountability.  That we may see results from our well intentioned efforts.

 

Your friend is aware of her neighbor's children’s circumstances, whether she serves her neighbors children supper at home or takes it to them knows where her food is going and to whose benefit.  She makes sure of it.  There is accountability.

 

Pack asks no questions.  They send food home leaving it up to whomever to see that the children that they haven’t been feeding are the only ones being fed with the food they bring home.   There is no accountability.

 

Likely as not you do not trust your wealthy neighbor with children but you would not even question a total stranger whose children are in obvious need.

 

And not being factious in the slightest,  I hope that’s specific enough.

 

Originally Posted by Jankinonya:

How are these illegal immigrants getting disability? You have to have a SS number and pay in to even be eligible. The amount you receive is based on how much you have paid in. 

 

The only way that anyone that is here illegally could be drawing a disability check from the government is if they were scamming the system. It's not like the government is just handing it out to them with full knowledge of them being illegal. So, in that case, we have a problem with those that are willing to forge documents and obtain fake SS cards. There are laws to deal with them. They just have to get caught. I would suggest that if you TRULY know of a person receiving disability illegally, then you should report them. 

 

I watched a show one time where people who were scamming the disability system were taped doing all kinds of work they weren't supposed to be able to do anymore. They were arrested and charged with fraud (among other things) So, Countrygal, if you really have knowledge of this going on, would you please step up and do something about it? Even if its not an illegal immigrant scamming the disability system you should report it, regardless of whether they were born here or not. Illegal is illegal, no matter where you are from.

 

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/EN-05-11051.pdf

I believe that it is a don't ask don't tell mentality many government agency's in the case of illegals and apparently Obama's illegal "at the time" aunt agrees.  http://www.freerepublic.com/fo...oggers/2593374/posts

I differ from you as I see it all the time on TV and locally in Memphis 4 to 6 kids and always been on assistance,  I also believe there should be a limit.

I would have it where we would pay for one unintentional child but no more if you are on assistance.  Have as many as you want but no more money as it is a incentive to have more kids.  It is simply not good for the children involved nor society to encourage such behavior.

If you have had a job and loose it and have many kids then I have no problem paying for assistance for all until someone gets back of their feet.

Originally Posted by CountryGal:
Originally Posted by budsfarm:

Jank,

 

Can you see a difference between...

 

"You could help too. There is a really great organization here in the Shoals called Pack them with Love. They send a back pack filled with food home with hungry children every Friday from school. They don't ask what their parents have done or if their parents are here legally. They just feed the children. Its what civilized societies do."

 

 

"We see parents of all walks of life who don't take care of the children they have. I know a very wealthy woman that doesn't do a very good job of caring for her children. She is more concerned with her self. I have a friend that regularly feeds them dinner. Of course they can afford to take care of their own children, but if they are not going to then someone has to."

 

And I’m not talking about a difference in income.

 

 

 

 

From Countrygal

 

How dare you say I CAN HELP.......I DO help .....I work and pay my taxes with a LEGAL SS card and a job I have held over 25 years.and the system is messed up......Do you think for one minute illegal immigrants are  not USING the So Called SYSTEM for every dime they can get.......They drive better cars than I do and get food stamps and set up a fake residence in Mississippi so they don't have to pay insurance on their 2014 new SUV's with fake ID's. THey have free insurance too.  Yes...I DO help....my hard earned tax dollars take care of this mess we are in. I pay deductibles on my $300.00 health insurance which I pay  MONTHLY and they have FREE insurance....I have friends who have done this LEGALLY and they are OUTRAGED at those who are illegal. SO don't tell me I CAN HELP....because I've been HELPING for YEARS. We put our kids through college and it was hard.....if you are an immigrant you have more rights and college doesn't cost them a dime!

.........I am mad as HECK!!! Illegals need to go back home and come here legally.

BY the way.....when LEGALS (including those of us who whose families have been here for generations) do something illegal....we are punished by the law. It is also a sin to be illegal and steal from the system however bad the system is....

 

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