From USA Today - today
http://www.usatoday.com/money/...employment-march.htm

"It is no longer appropriate to call this a jobless recovery," Chris Rupkey, chief economist of Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi said in a research note.

Looks like our economy is beginning to improve after all. Thank you Obama and your administration !

 

 

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“Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.”
― Thomas Paine

Original Post
Seeweed, you know they are going to come back at you, saying the numbers don't mean anything. They don't WANT the economy to improve because if it does, that will prove that this administration has done a great job fixing the mess they were handed. And that means that Obama is even more likely to be re-elected.

Between the improving economy, and the fractured Republican party, it's looking better and better all the time. I feel confident that Obama WILL be a two term president!
quote:
Originally posted by O No!:
Seeweed, you know they are going to come back at you, saying the numbers don't mean anything. They don't WANT the economy to improve because if it does, that will prove that this administration has done a great job fixing the mess they were handed. And that means that Obama is even more likely to be re-elected.

Edited for PS: Actually if you count the cranky McCain as a 3rd term of Bush (which he all but promised), I voted against Bush 3 times.

Between the improving economy, and the fractured Republican party, it's looking better and better all the time. I feel confident that Obama WILL be a two term president!

Yea, I know a lot of these right-wing nuts would rather our entire country fail than for Obama's admin to succeed. That's why I put in that thank you line.
Bush = nation destroyer
Obama = nation saver
of course I knew that when I voted against Bush both times, and for Obama.
It is what it is !
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
quote:
Originally posted by O No!:
Seeweed, you know they are going to come back at you, saying the numbers don't mean anything. They don't WANT the economy to improve because if it does, that will prove that this administration has done a great job fixing the mess they were handed. And that means that Obama is even more likely to be re-elected.

Edited for PS: Actually if you count the cranky McCain as a 3rd term of Bush (which he all but promised), I voted against Bush 3 times.

Between the improving economy, and the fractured Republican party, it's looking better and better all the time. I feel confident that Obama WILL be a two term president!

Yea, I know a lot of these right-wing nuts would rather our entire country fail than for Obama's admin to succeed. That's why I put in that thank you line.
Bush = nation destroyer
Obama = nation saver
of course I knew that when I voted against Bush both times, and for Obama.
It is what it is !


Imagine what he could have achieved if the Republicans had the country's best interests at heart.
quote:
Originally posted by Opie Cunningham:
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
quote:
Originally posted by O No!:
Seeweed, you know they are going to come back at you, saying the numbers don't mean anything. They don't WANT the economy to improve because if it does, that will prove that this administration has done a great job fixing the mess they were handed. And that means that Obama is even more likely to be re-elected.

Edited for PS: Actually if you count the cranky McCain as a 3rd term of Bush (which he all but promised), I voted against Bush 3 times.

Between the improving economy, and the fractured Republican party, it's looking better and better all the time. I feel confident that Obama WILL be a two term president!

Yea, I know a lot of these right-wing nuts would rather our entire country fail than for Obama's admin to succeed. That's why I put in that thank you line.
Bush = nation destroyer
Obama = nation saver
of course I knew that when I voted against Bush both times, and for Obama.
It is what it is !


Imagine what he could have achieved if the Republicans had the country's best interests at heart.

Yes, it is sad that the Republicans desire to see Obama fail is that much more important than their desire to see our country succeed.
Not limited to Congressional Republicans, also true of Forum Republicans.
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
From USA Today - today
http://www.usatoday.com/money/...employment-march.htm

"It is no longer appropriate to call this a jobless recovery," Chris Rupkey, chief economist of Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi said in a research note.

Looks like our economy is beginning to improve after all. Thank you Obama and your administration !


Feel free to list all the things Obama has done to help in the recovery.
quote:
If you want to understand better why so many states—from New York to Wisconsin to California—are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, consider this depressing statistic: Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

It gets worse. More Americans work for the government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities combined. We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers.



http://nation.foxnews.com/gove...-forestry-mining-an#
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
quote:
Originally posted by O No!:
Seeweed, you know they are going to come back at you, saying the numbers don't mean anything. They don't WANT the economy to improve because if it does, that will prove that this administration has done a great job fixing the mess they were handed. And that means that Obama is even more likely to be re-elected.

Edited for PS: Actually if you count the cranky McCain as a 3rd term of Bush (which he all but promised), I voted against Bush 3 times.

Between the improving economy, and the fractured Republican party, it's looking better and better all the time. I feel confident that Obama WILL be a two term president!

Yea, I know a lot of these right-wing nuts would rather our entire country fail than for Obama's admin to succeed. That's why I put in that thank you line.
Bush = nation destroyer
Obama = nation saver
of course I knew that when I voted against Bush both times, and for Obama.
It is what it is !

Are you kidding me.
Obama is the biggest joke we had as Pres. since Jimmy Carter.(Jimmy is still a joke)This guy and his side kicks(Polosie and Reid)have driven this country into bankruptcy. Who's going to pay for this mess?
Most likely our grand children and many generations to come. The Chineese are only going to bank roll our debt for so long. This is an extremly dangerous situation.
The democrates have followed Obama and his radical regime over the cliff. They wasted two years on cap & trade(tax & spend) and Obama Care. What a waste of tax-payer dollars. The Democrates and those who vote for them think they are intitled to the tax-payers' money. Well bull-****. The free loaders that always vote Democratic do not pay taxes.(When you get more back from the IRS than you pay you are not a taxpayer. This incudes GE.
Lets' talk about jobs(are you kidding)? My area is 11%. Las Vegas is
13%+. All you real taxpayers that think the economy is good, take your blinders off. Oil is
going thru the roof, food and everything else is going up. Put down that bong and smell the tiolet this country is swirling down.

Keep Marching,
Skippy
quote:
Originally posted by ferrellj:
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
From USA Today - today
http://www.usatoday.com/money/...employment-march.htm

"It is no longer appropriate to call this a jobless recovery," Chris Rupkey, chief economist of Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi said in a research note.

Looks like our economy is beginning to improve after all. Thank you Obama and your administration !


Feel free to list all the things Obama has done to help in the recovery.


I provided a list last time you ask. You go find it this time.
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
From USA Today - today
http://www.usatoday.com/money/...employment-march.htm

"It is no longer appropriate to call this a jobless recovery," Chris Rupkey, chief economist of Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi said in a research note.

Looks like our economy is beginning to improve after all. Thank you Obama and your administration !
You are right seeweed. the title says it all.

216,000 jobs added; unemployment rate dips to 8.8%

Yahoo, the level they promised if they passed the stimulus. Of course, any good statitician will tell you that doesn't cover the real unemployment number, those who quit looking or are the long term unemployed.
quote:
Originally posted by ferrellj:
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
From USA Today - today
http://www.usatoday.com/money/...employment-march.htm

"It is no longer appropriate to call this a jobless recovery," Chris Rupkey, chief economist of Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi said in a research note.

Looks like our economy is beginning to improve after all. Thank you Obama and your administration !


Feel free to list all the things Obama has done to help in the recovery.


OBama cut taxes with the stimulus plan which included $282 billion in tax cuts over two years, which is the largest temporary tax cut ever.
quote:
Originally posted by ferrellj:
quote:
If you want to understand better why so many states—from New York to Wisconsin to California—are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, consider this depressing statistic: Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

It gets worse. More Americans work for the government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities combined. We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers.



http://nation.foxnews.com/gove...-forestry-mining-an#



Actually, government jobs are DECREASING, while manufacturing jobs are INCREASING.

From Yahoo News:

Factories added 17,000 jobs in March, the fifth straight month of gains. Retailers added nearly 18,000 jobs, after cutting them in February. Financial services expanded payrolls by 6,000, following two straight months of cutbacks. Education and health services expanded employment by 45,000, leisure and hospitality added 37,000 jobs.

Aside from layoffs by local governments, other sectors eliminating jobs included construction, transportation and warehousing, and information services, such as telecommunications. State government hiring was flat, after four straight months of layoffs.
quote:
Originally posted by b50m:
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
From USA Today - today
http://www.usatoday.com/money/...employment-march.htm

"It is no longer appropriate to call this a jobless recovery," Chris Rupkey, chief economist of Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi said in a research note.

Looks like our economy is beginning to improve after all. Thank you Obama and your administration !
You are right seeweed. the title says it all.

216,000 jobs added; unemployment rate dips to 8.8%

Yahoo, the level they promised if they passed the stimulus. Of course, any good statitician will tell you that doesn't cover the real unemployment number, those who quit looking or are the long term unemployed.

216,000 jobs added, most in the private sector.
Whatever the rate really is, or really isn't , this is good news and we really needed some. I keep having to remember it took almost 10 years and a real war to get out of the Great Depression, and Roosevelt didn't have half the country pulling against him.
My personal opinion is we were almost there where we were in 1929 - '33. A prolonged drought like back then, and we may have actually gone there again. I am not willing to say we're totally over this , may not fully recover in my lifetime but I am willing to celebrate good news where ever I find it. I choose toremain an optimist.
quote:
Originally posted by Jobe:
Bo said the rate dropped a full point when in fact it was only 1/10 of a point. The article said it too but 8.9 and 8.8 is only 1 tenth of 1 percent difference.


I take it back. I don't even think CAGE could be this ignorant. Maybe you AREN'T an alter!

Barrack Obama said the PAST 4 months the unemployment rate has dropped a full point.

My apologies to Cage the Elephant!
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
quote:
Originally posted by b50m:
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
From USA Today - today
http://www.usatoday.com/money/...employment-march.htm

"It is no longer appropriate to call this a jobless recovery," Chris Rupkey, chief economist of Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi said in a research note.

Looks like our economy is beginning to improve after all. Thank you Obama and your administration !
You are right seeweed. the title says it all.

216,000 jobs added; unemployment rate dips to 8.8%

Yahoo, the level they promised if they passed the stimulus. Of course, any good statitician will tell you that doesn't cover the real unemployment number, those who quit looking or are the long term unemployed.

216,000 jobs added, most in the private sector.
Whatever the rate really is, or really isn't , this is good news and we really needed some. I keep having to remember it took almost 10 years and a real war to get out of the Great Depression, and Roosevelt didn't have half the country pulling against him.
My personal opinion is we were almost there where we were in 1929 - '33. A prolonged drought like back then, and we may have actually gone there again. I am not willing to say we're totally over this , may not fully recover in my lifetime but I am willing to celebrate good news where ever I find it. I choose toremain an optimist.


Hey sea weed,
Rosevelt didn't do a thing to help get us out of the Great Depression. It was war and only war that pulled us out of that one. Sure
he had a bunch of gov't feel good work programs and some cozy fireside chats over the radio. Obama has three wars(one he got us into),
and still nothing. Sure you can claim private sector jobs are on the rise. That is what a fraction of
one%. Most areas are flat. Do you realize that the gov't jobs out # industrial jobs. With Obama in bed with the head of GE(the same GE that has shipped more jobs over seas than anyone
else), The same GE that made Billions and paid zero corp. tax. Not only that the gov't gave them additional billions. And that guys are job zar? It's time to realize our country is in deep trouble. We need to stop the spending that we don't have.
So please stop trying to claim a rock is a nugget of gold.

Keep Marching,
Skippy
quote:
Originally posted by skippy delepepper:
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
quote:
Originally posted by O No!:
Seeweed, you know they are going to come back at you, saying the numbers don't mean anything. They don't WANT the economy to improve because if it does, that will prove that this administration has done a great job fixing the mess they were handed. And that means that Obama is even more likely to be re-elected.

Edited for PS: Actually if you count the cranky McCain as a 3rd term of Bush (which he all but promised), I voted against Bush 3 times.

Between the improving economy, and the fractured Republican party, it's looking better and better all the time. I feel confident that Obama WILL be a two term president!

Yea, I know a lot of these right-wing nuts would rather our entire country fail than for Obama's admin to succeed. That's why I put in that thank you line.
Bush = nation destroyer
Obama = nation saver
of course I knew that when I voted against Bush both times, and for Obama.
It is what it is !

Are you kidding me.
Obama is the biggest joke we had as Pres. since Jimmy Carter.(Jimmy is still a joke)This guy and his side kicks(Polosie and Reid)have driven this country into bankruptcy. Who's going to pay for this mess?
Most likely our grand children and many generations to come. The Chineese are only going to bank roll our debt for so long. This is an extremly dangerous situation.
The democrates have followed Obama and his radical regime over the cliff. They wasted two years on cap & trade(tax & spend) and Obama Care. What a waste of tax-payer dollars. The Democrates and those who vote for them think they are intitled to the tax-payers' money. Well bull-****. The free loaders that always vote Democratic do not pay taxes.(When you get more back from the IRS than you pay you are not a taxpayer. This incudes GE.
Lets' talk about jobs(are you kidding)? My area is 11%. Las Vegas is
13%+. All you real taxpayers that think the economy is good, take your blinders off. Oil is
going thru the roof, food and everything else is going up. Put down that bong and smell the tiolet this country is swirling down.

Keep Marching,
Skippy


Being a mormon must kill more brain cells than normal christianity.
quote:
Originally posted by skippy delepepper:
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
quote:
Originally posted by b50m:
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
From USA Today - today
http://www.usatoday.com/money/...employment-march.htm

"It is no longer appropriate to call this a jobless recovery," Chris Rupkey, chief economist of Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi said in a research note.

Looks like our economy is beginning to improve after all. Thank you Obama and your administration !
You are right seeweed. the title says it all.

216,000 jobs added; unemployment rate dips to 8.8%

Yahoo, the level they promised if they passed the stimulus. Of course, any good statitician will tell you that doesn't cover the real unemployment number, those who quit looking or are the long term unemployed.

216,000 jobs added, most in the private sector.
Whatever the rate really is, or really isn't , this is good news and we really needed some. I keep having to remember it took almost 10 years and a real war to get out of the Great Depression, and Roosevelt didn't have half the country pulling against him.
My personal opinion is we were almost there where we were in 1929 - '33. A prolonged drought like back then, and we may have actually gone there again. I am not willing to say we're totally over this , may not fully recover in my lifetime but I am willing to celebrate good news where ever I find it. I choose toremain an optimist.


Hey sea weed,
Rosevelt didn't do a thing to help get us out of the Great Depression. It was war and only war nthat pulled us out of that one. Sure
he had a bunch of gov't feel good work programs and some cozy fireside chats over the radio. Obama has three wars(one he got us into),
and still nothing. Sure you can claim private sector jobs on rise. That is what a fraction of
one%. Most areas are flat. Do you realize that the gov't jobs out # industrial jobs. With Obama in bed with the head of GE(the same GE that has shipped more jobs over seas than anyone
else), The same GE that made Billions and paid zero corp. tax. Not only that the gov't gave them additional billions. And that guys are job zar? It's time to realize our country is in deep trouble. We need to stop the spending that we don't have.
So please stop trying to claim a rock is a nugget of gold.

Keep Marching,
Skippy

You are wrong on so many levels I don't know where to start. The New Deal DID do quite a bit to end the Great Depression, although you are correct it took a real war (not what we are fighting now) to slam the lid on it. In fact, not even the war ended it completely, but the fact that most of the production capacity of everywhere in the world was virtually destroyed except for here in the US gave us quite a leg up after the war. However, the New Deal was a salvation in it's own right, and we are still today enjoying a lot of the fruit of it.
What you call "feel good work programs" sure felt good to the people who got those jobs and were able to feed their starving kids. When my dad went to work for TVA, as far as he was concerned, the Depression was OVER, and I'm sure the same went for all the employees of all the Alphabet programs.
In addition, the checks for businesses kept us out of another depression until Reagan started dismanteling them in the 80's. Bush finally did most of them in, and here we were a couple of years ago, almost back to 1933. All we needed was a prolonged drought and we'd be loading our jalopies and heading to California to pick apples.
If you think that the New Deal didn't help, maybe you need to go back to 7th grade and re-study that Civics class you slept through.
As to GE, etc not paying taxes, and jobs moving offshore, don't blame Obama, look no father than your local Republican Senator or Congressman who keeps voting to give tax breaks to companies who ship those jobs overseas. Obama is trying to change all that, but Boehner has opposed anything that would help our economy for 2 years, and still is.
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
quote:
Originally posted by skippy delepepper:
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
quote:
Originally posted by b50m:
quote:
Originally posted by seeweed:
From USA Today - today
http://www.usatoday.com/money/...employment-march.htm

"It is no longer appropriate to call this a jobless recovery," Chris Rupkey, chief economist of Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi said in a research note.

Looks like our economy is beginning to improve after all. Thank you Obama and your administration !
You are right seeweed. the title says it all.

216,000 jobs added; unemployment rate dips to 8.8%

Yahoo, the level they promised if they passed the stimulus. Of course, any good statitician will tell you that doesn't cover the real unemployment number, those who quit looking or are the long term unemployed.

216,000 jobs added, most in the private sector.
Whatever the rate really is, or really isn't , this is good news and we really needed some. I keep having to remember it took almost 10 years and a real war to get out of the Great Depression, and Roosevelt didn't have half the country pulling against him.
My personal opinion is we were almost there where we were in 1929 - '33. A prolonged drought like back then, and we may have actually gone there again. I am not willing to say we're totally over this , may not fully recover in my lifetime but I am willing to celebrate good news where ever I find it. I choose toremain an optimist.


Hey sea weed,
Rosevelt didn't do a thing to help get us out of the Great Depression. It was war and only war nthat pulled us out of that one. Sure
he had a bunch of gov't feel good work programs and some cozy fireside chats over the radio. Obama has three wars(one he got us into),
and still nothing. Sure you can claim private sector jobs on rise. That is what a fraction of
one%. Most areas are flat. Do you realize that the gov't jobs out # industrial jobs. With Obama in bed with the head of GE(the same GE that has shipped more jobs over seas than anyone
else), The same GE that made Billions and paid zero corp. tax. Not only that the gov't gave them additional billions. And that guys are job zar? It's time to realize our country is in deep trouble. We need to stop the spending that we don't have.
So please stop trying to claim a rock is a nugget of gold.

Keep Marching,
Skippy

You are wrong on so many levels I don't know where to start. The New Deal DID do quite a bit to end the Great Depression, although you are correct it took a real war (not what we are fighting now) to slam the lid on it. In fact, not even the war ended it completely, but the fact that most of the production capacity of everywhere in the world was virtually destroyed except for here in the US gave us quite a leg up after the war. However, the New Deal was a salvation in it's own right, and we are still today enjoying a lot of the fruit of it.
What you call "feel good work programs" sure felt good to the people who got those jobs and were able to feed their starving kids. When my dad went to work for TVA, as far as he was concerned, the Depression was OVER, and I'm sure the same went for all the employees of all the Alphabet programs.
In addition, the checks for businesses kept us out of another depression until Reagan started dismanteling them in the 80's. Bush finally did most of them in, and here we were a couple of years ago, almost back to 1933. All we needed was a prolonged drought and we'd be loading our jalopies and heading to California to pick apples.
If you think that the New Deal didn't help, maybe you need to go back to 7th grade and re-study that Civics class you slept through.
As to GE, etc not paying taxes, and jobs moving offshore, don't blame Obama, look no father than your local Republican Senator or Congressman who keeps voting to give tax breaks to companies who ship those jobs overseas. Obama is trying to change all that, but Boehner has opposed anything that would help our economy for 2 years, and still is.


Hey Seaweed
The only thing that can get us out of this is Business and Business jobs. Not Gov't jobs, we have enough of them. Rosevelt did everything he could to incumber business. Until we started to ship arms abroad dureing WW2 our country was going no where. You complain about Rep.Boehner. Who controlled both the
Senate and the House for more than the past two years? And didn't do a thing to help job creation. Wasted most of the time on Cap & Trade and the Socialist
Obama Care program that totaly will bankrupt this country. Even after we are able to reapeal this(and we will)it will cost the taxpayers Billons if not trillions.
And as far as seventh grade, I past it with strait A's. Back then we didn't have the understanding and all the facts we do now. So please check the more up-to-date facts of the 21st Centry. I wouldn't trust the schools these days as their teaching to rely on the gov't for all of your needs and to praise our savior Obama. And what about the Christmas ornimants on the White House Tree the Christmas before last featuring the picture of Chairman Mou. Even the Beatles realized this was a bad thing.

Keep Marching,
Skippy
Simple the picture doesn't even denote what the lines represent which I'm assuming if fine for a Obamatard. I'm sure this represents "jobs saved" as well as jobs created or some bogus snake oil interpretation of "fact" to shine most favorably on the chosen one.
quote:
Originally posted by Ronnie P.:
Simple the picture doesn't even denote what the lines represent which I'm assuming if fine for a Obamatard. I'm sure this represents "jobs saved" as well as jobs created or some bogus snake oil interpretation of "fact" to shine most favorably on the chosen one.


Try READING the article Ronnie P. Is that against everything you have been conditioned to respond to? I know it isn't from Fox News but just TRY to read it. I promise, your eyes will not burst into flames, no matter WHAT you have been led to believe if you read something that isn't from Fox or one of the radical right wing propoganda rags.
quote:
Originally posted by rocky:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ronnie P.:
Simple the picture doesn't even denote what the lines represent which I'm assuming if fine for a Obamatard. I'm sure this represents "jobs saved" as well as jobs created or some bogus snake oil interpretation of "fact" to shine most favorably on the chosen one.


Try READING the article Ronnie P. Is that against everything you have been conditioned to respond to? I know it isn't from Fox News but just TRY to read it. I promise, your eyes will not burst into flames, no matter WHAT you have been led to believe if you read something that isn't from Fox or one of the radical right wing propoganda rags.[/QUOTE

Hey Comrad Rocky, if it isn't on FOX it isn't FACT.

Keep MArching to Victory,
Skippy
quote:
Originally posted by skippy delepepper:
quote:
Originally posted by rocky:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ronnie P.:
Simple the picture doesn't even denote what the lines represent which I'm assuming if fine for a Obamatard. I'm sure this represents "jobs saved" as well as jobs created or some bogus snake oil interpretation of "fact" to shine most favorably on the chosen one.


Try READING the article Ronnie P. Is that against everything you have been conditioned to respond to? I know it isn't from Fox News but just TRY to read it. I promise, your eyes will not burst into flames, no matter WHAT you have been led to believe if you read something that isn't from Fox or one of the radical right wing propoganda rags.[/QUOTE

Hey Comrad Rocky, if it isn't on FOX it isn't FACT.

Keep MArching to Victory,
Skippy


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