Morgan Freeman Attempts To Resolve Church And Science For The Discovery Channel

Hi Starry,

Morgan Freeman is one of my favorite actors; but, he is from Mississippi, not Alabama. At least, that was what he said in an interview I saw not long ago. And, when not in Hollywood, he still lives in Mississippi.

Whether he is a Christian believer or not, I will have to see the show to better understand where he is coming from spiritually, based upon the statement you quoted.

As for Whoopi Goldberg, if she were selling dollars for a quarter each -- I would still suspect her of something. Although she is a talented actress -- to me she is a typical Hollywood Liberal and I would not take anything she said seriously.

Will Smith, also a great actor -- but, I have no idea where he is coming from spiritually. So, this one I will have to wait and see also.

Thank you for posting this.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

So, the two of you believe that Morgan Freeman is the author of the program?

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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
So, the two of you believe that Morgan Freeman is the author of the program?

Hi Crusty,

No, not at all. We realize he is the Hollywood face for the show. We were just commenting on him as a person and wondering where he stands spiritually.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Yes, I am aware that Morgan Freeman is from Mississippi and not Alabama. I copied and pasted the article from a news source. They made the error.

From Morgan's quote, it sounds like he might be a little too liberal for you Bill. As for Whoppi, I think she is great but I am very liberal and don't see anything wrong with saying so.

I watched the show, not because of Morgan Freeman but because I'm a physics geek. It was pretty good.

I believe science will eventually prove the existence of God. The two are not mutually exclusive.

@ StarryNight:
ROFL @ "Whoppi."

I like that!

Yeah, I watched the show.
God could be a "super computer" and we are all just CGG's on a large monitor.

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Originally posted by CageTheElephant:
Yeah, I watched the show. God could be a "super computer" and we are all just CGG's on a large monitor.

Hi Cage,

If that is true -- then, who or what created the "super computer"?

At some point there has to be a "cause" -- the initial action or perpetrator -- which was not created. That Person then must be God.

We know from science that matter is neither created nor destroyed -- only changed from one form to another. Yet, someone or something must have caused or created the initial matter. That initial "cause" must be preexisting since it was not caused. If it is preexisting, then it is God.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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We know from science that matter is neither created nor destroyed -- only changed from one form to another. Yet, someone or something must have caused or created the initial matter. That initial "cause" must be preexisting since it was not caused. If it is preexisting, then it is God.

I'm very confused. You have stated many times that you are a bible literalist meaning the earth is 6000 years old, mad was created from a lump of clay and woman from a man's rib (I used to wonder why god didn't just use another lump of clay).

Now you seem to agree with the general scientific consensus and especially with how my faith defines my science.

So what is it, Bill?

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At some point there has to be a "cause" -- the initial action or perpetrator -- which was not created. That Person then must be God.

Honestly, Bill, it doesn't "have" to be God. It could be a super-advanced alien race.

My faith doesn't really know the difference.

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Originally posted by Sofa King:

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
If that is true -- then, who or what created the "super computer"? At some point there has to be a "cause" -- the initial action or perpetrator -- which was not created. That Person then must be God. We know from science that matter is neither created nor destroyed -- only changed from one form to another. Yet, someone or something must have caused or created the initial matter. That initial "cause" must be preexisting since it was not caused. If it is preexisting, then it is God..

I'm very confused. You have stated many times that you are a bible literalist meaning the earth is 6000 years old, mad was created from a lump of clay and woman from a man's rib (I used to wonder why god didn't just use another lump of clay). Now you seem to agree with the general scientific consensus and especially with how my faith defines my science. So what is it, Bill?

Hi Sofa,

Yes, my Friend, I agree with you; you are confused. Possibly, you have a reading comprehension problem today. In the post above, I have not mentioned the age of the earth nor God's supernatural creation of Adam and Eve.

What I have stated is that, respecting the laws of science which God created when "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1) -- matter cannot be created nor destroyed. It only changes from one state or form to another. Yet, at some point in time -- 6000, 10,000, etc (but, definitely not billions) of years ago -- matter was initially created. That is confirmed in Genesis 1:1.

Am I a Bible Literalist? You bet I am! When God tells me in 1 Timothy 3:16-17, "ALL Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work" -- I believe Him.

And, since God authored ALL SCRIPTURE, there are certain attributes we know have to exist:

All Scripture is inspired by God, therefore it is ALL the Written Word of God.

All Scripture is inerrant, i.e., the Bible is without error in its moral and spiritual teaching and in its record of historical facts. How do we know this? Well, God authored the Bible -- and God does not make mistakes. God never has to say, "Oops!".

All Scripture is the literal Written Word of God. How do we know this? God is not a God of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33). Why would He author a book of confusion and mystery; one that we cannot comprehend? He would not; for He has given us the Bible as to point us toward salvation -- and to be our guidebook in our Christian walk.

Can you imagine Mercedes writing a Mechanics Manual all in German -- and then, sending it to a repair shop where no one spoke or could read German? Trust me, God is smarter than the Germans!

Therefore, the Bible is the inspired, inerrant, literal Written Word of God.

Is every word to be taken literally? Of course not. Different figures of speech are used throughout the Bible: symbolism, allegories, metaphors, etc. However, a good rule of thumb when interpreting a Scripture verse or passage is to first read it literally. If the shoe fits; wear it.

If not, you might apply one or more of the figures of speech. While quite a bit of the book of Revelation is written using these figures of speech -- still, enough of it is literal so that we can know what God is revealing to us in this marvelous book.

As I said, in reading the Bible -- first, put on the literal shoe. If it fits, you can be comfortable -- which will occur most of the time. In those few other times; put on your symbolic/allegorical/metaphorical shoe -- and walk in the Truth of God's Written Word, the Bible.

Sofa, isn't our God amazing? He gives us a Christian's User's Manual -- and makes it so simple that even an atheist, if he tried, could read and understand it.

You see, Sofa, being a Conservative Christian, I am happy with the way God has authored His Written Word, the Bible. So, I have no need to rewrite it to fit worldly, societal, cultural, or personal desires and wishes. I just take it the way it is written and thank God for giving me His full revelation on salvation and Christian living.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Sofa King:

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
At some point there has to be a "cause" -- the initial action or perpetrator -- which was not created. That Person then must be God. We know from science that matter is neither created nor destroyed -- only changed from one form to another. Yet, someone or something must have caused or created the initial matter. That initial "cause" must be preexisting since it was not caused. If it is preexisting, then it is God.

Honestly, Bill, it doesn't "have" to be God. It could be a super-advanced alien race. My faith doesn't really know the difference.

Hi Sofa,

I have no doubt that YOUR faith doesn't know the difference. When the Hindus worship cows, frogs, etc. -- their faith does not know the difference either. When New Agers worship rocks, trees, and Ascended Masters from some other race or planet, or whatever -- their faith does not know the difference either.

However, Christian faith is not confused. When we Christians read, "I am the WAY, and the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me" (John 14:6) -- we know exactly which Truth is the WAY.

Sofa, you go ahead and worship your god, the super-advanced alien race, or whatever other New Age gods you find. But, I pray that someday you will put aside your gods of science or whatever -- and come to know the true WAY.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill