Mormons need not worry

Well, Dwight/Skippy,

To me, a person who has to have multiple posting names to bolster his position -- is the Poster Boy For DECEIT. There we must vote for you in your dual (maybe more) persona.

If sharing the true Written Word of God with folks on the Religion Forum and shining the light of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, the one and only Jesus Christ (He of John 1:1) on the darkness of Mormonism -- is being mean and hateful -- then, I am guilty.

If refuting the many false teachings of the Cult Religion of Mormonism -- through sharing the Written Word of God -- is being mean and hateful -- then, I am guilty.

All I can say is, "Praise God that He has shown me the cult darkness of Mormonism, that I might share this with our Forum Friends!"

And, I make you a solemn promise, Dwight/Skippy. As long as God gives me the means and ability to refute Mormonism on the Religion Forum -- I will continue to be here shining my big God-Light upon your Mormon men/gods and all their cult teachings.

It appears we are going to have a long relationship, Dwight/Skippy -- you sharing darkness -- and me shining the Light of God upon that darkness.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Windsong, you've only shown patience when dealing with bill's and bettern-nuns attacks. Right now I'd have to call the "my cult is better than your cult" game for you.

Bill, you sure are a good Christian, hu? What religion teaches you to make fun of another religion? Do they provide you with cartoons, too? Is it "Thou shalt make fun of things I don't agree with" or "Love thy neighbor"? Just wondering.

I wonder how many minutes in a 24 hour period does Bill think about us Mormon's? It is too bad that all that write in these forums don't spend that time spreading love and kindness.

I have a question, honestly.
Bill you say repeatedly that we can disagree on doctrine, but it is of no consequence - you repeatedly say that all one has to do is accept Jesus as Personal Savior, and they are saved.

Mormons, as I understand it, do this. So what's the problem?

Bill, Windsong has as much right to preach his religion on this forum as you do. And I don't see him attacking like you do. Why don't you get over yourself? Sounds like you're scared he's going to take over your corner.

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Originally posted by vplee123:
I have a question, honestly. Bill you say repeatedly that we can disagree on doctrine, but it is of no consequence - you repeatedly say that all one has to do is accept Jesus as Personal Savior, and they are saved. Mormons, as I understand it, do this. So what's the problem?

Hi VP and Worker,

First, Worker, refuting false and cult teachings is not making fun of another religion. It is, rather, pointing out the errors of those teachings and where they differ from the teachings of the Bible. Yes, all Christian believers are called to refute the false teachings of world religions and cult religions.

But, no, Worker, I have to find my own graphics and cartoons.

VP, yes, I say that Christian believers who agree on the Essential Christian Beliefs -- can agree to disagree on issues such as eschatology, baptism and method of baptism, methods of worship service, music or no music in worship services, etc. -- for those beliefs and how one views them do not affect one's eternal salvation.

Not having a good understanding of such issues can only affect one's eternal security while in this mortal body. A good example is the Roman Catholic teaching that no one can know they have eternal life in Christ. Yet, Jesus Christ Himself tells us, "He who believes HAS ETERNAL LIFE" (John 6:47). Who is right -- the Roman Catholic church or Jesus Christ?

However, NO CHRISTIAN believer can agree with or accept false and cult teachings which contradict the Bible. This is Biblical compromise -- and, Christians cannot compromise the Word of God.

Yes, I do say and believe that we are saved, by the grace of God, through faith in Jesus Christ -- plus nothing else. However, that does not include believing in a false Jesus Christ or false gods as they have in the Mormon church.

VP, your own Roman Catholic church is vehemently against the teachings of the Mormon church -- yet, because you are so desperate to find ways in which you can disagree with Bill Gray -- you are willing to go against the teachings of your own church and embrace Mormonism. Maybe you should sit down with your priest and get his views on the Mormon church.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
Bill, Windsong has as much right to preach his religion on this forum as you do. And I don't see him attacking like you do. Why don't you get over yourself? Sounds like you're scared he's going to take over your corner.

Hi Chick,

Yes, Dwight and his alter ego, Skippy, do have the right to share his religious beliefs on the Religion Forum. I have never questioned that.

However, I not only have a right to refute his false teachings -- I have a responsibility to refute them.

Why does Dwight/Skippy not refute the Bible? Because doing so would highlight the cult teachings of the Book of Mormon and their cult church.

While I am here to refute false and cult teachings; Dwight/Skippy is here for only one purpose -- to recruit vulnerable people into their cult. That is the nature of cults.

So, all I can tell you is -- BEWARE!

And, always keep in mind: "Come into my parlor," said the Spider to the Fly.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Jennifer:
Windsong, you've only shown patience when dealing with bill's and bettern-nuns attacks. Right now I'd have to call the "my cult is better than your cult" game for you.

WINDSONG has shown much more evasiveness than he has patience. His old dodge about having a superior standing because he gets his stuff straight from the Holy Spirit is wearing very thin as Windsong continues show studied resistance to actually defending his cultic belief system when its many foibles and inconsistencies and weirdnesses are disclosed for all to see.

WINDSONG, here is a little challenge that your buddy, Skippy, has carefully ignored. Care to take a shot at it? I have given up on Skippy, but if he reads this,, he is welcome to respond this time, which is the third time I have posted it without getting an answer. Repeating for your convenience:

"You say, Skippy, that 'We know that Adam transgressed but not sinned.'

I am astonished, flabbergasted, and shocked that you would come on this public forum, Skippy, and, in front of God and everybody, publicly disagree with the clear teaching of Holy Scripture on this point. Read on and be enlightened and consider publicly apologizing to God and His Apostle.

The Apostle John (not some phony Mormon 'apostle,') who wrote several books of the Bible disagrees with you, Windsong. The Apostle John, in I John 3:4, writes 'sin is the transgression of the law.'"

Your studied avoidance of this obvious, glaring 180-degree contradiction between Mormon teaching and the teaching of the Apostle John is evident to anyone reading the ad hominem tripe you are posting instead of addressing this issue. Tell us, Skippy, is "sin" a "transgression" or is it not? Do you align with the Apostle John or with Mormon doctrine on this point?

Time to cut back on the personal attacks and address the ISSUE, Skippy. Come out, come out, wherever you are. And Windsong, feel free to help Skippy with this task. He obviously needs all the help he can get."

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi VP and Worker,
First, Worker, refuting false and cult teachings is not making fun of another religion.
Not having a good understanding of such issues can only affect one's eternal security while in this mortal body.
VP, your own Roman Catholic church is vehemently against the teachings of the Mormon church -- yet, because you are so desperate to find ways in which you can disagree with Bill Gray -- you are willing to go against the teachings of your own church and embrace Mormonism.
Bill

Bill, if refuting false & cult teachings is not making fun of another religion, then why do you do it?

Paul said in 2 Corinthians 13:5 to examine ourselves to see whether we are in the faith. Christians should be fruit-bearing followers of Jesus Christ, & we should be able to see the evidence of salvation in believers & I have yet to see it in you. You bear “rotten fruit”.

I didn’t read anywhere in VP’s post that she was embracing Mormonism & going against the teachings of her church. She’s like most of us here that disagree with the way you are constantly attacking Windsong. He will be judged one day by God, just as you will. It’s not your call to make.

You could learn alot from VP about love & compassion.

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Originally posted by semiannualchick:

quote:

Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi VP and Worker,
First, Worker, refuting false and cult teachings is not making fun of another religion.
Not having a good understanding of such issues can only affect one's eternal security while in this mortal body.
VP, your own Roman Catholic church is vehemently against the teachings of the Mormon church -- yet, because you are so desperate to find ways in which you can disagree with Bill Gray -- you are willing to go against the teachings of your own church and embrace Mormonism.
Bill

Bill, if refuting false & cult teachings is not making fun of another religion, then why do you do it?

Paul said in 2 Corinthians 13:5 to examine ourselves to see whether we are in the faith. Christians should be fruit-bearing followers of Jesus Christ, & we should be able to see the evidence of salvation in believers & I have yet to see it in you. You bear “rotten fruit”.

I didn’t read anywhere in VP’s post that she was embracing Mormonism & going against the teachings of her church. She’s like most of us here that disagree with the way you are constantly attacking Windsong. He will be judged one day by God, just as you will. It’s not your call to make.

You could learn alot from VP about love & compassion.

Hi Chick,

When a Christian shows, by the Bible, that a Mormon teaching is cultic -- that is not making fun; that is pointing our the error of their teaching.

True, only God can and will judge Dwight/Skippy. However, all Christians who allow innocent, vulnerable people to be sucked into the Mormon cult religion, thereby losing their own eternal life -- WILL be held accountable to God if we do not tell them it is a cult. So, yes, I do have a vested interest in seeing people read and hear the true Word of God instead of a cult religion's teachings.

When VP chastises me for refuting Dwight/Skippy's Mormon religion -- she is, in effect, agreeing with that false teaching. And, the Roman Catholic church does not support the Mormon church teachings. So, in taking Dwight/Skippy's side in a Christian versus Cult discussion -- VP is going against the teachings of her church. If VP disagrees with this, she should talk with her priest about the issue.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by WINDSONG:
My Brothers and Sisters,
If you are Mormon and new to this forum, there are people in here bent on destroying your faith and testimony. They say very mean and hateful things and tread very heavely on things we hold sacred. Do not let these things bother you and ignore them. Do not attack them or their religious beliefs, that is what satan would have you do.
Remember the words of this Hymn that should be very familiar to you,

Fear not though the enemy deride,
Courage for the Lord is on our side,
Heed not what the wicked may say,
For the Lord alone we will obey.

For the churches official stanse on negative publicity go to,

http://newsroom.lds.org/article/the-publicity-dilemma

Your Brother in Christ, Dwight

Mormons who might come here would be wise to ignore WINDSONG's advice and should instead examine carefully information posted here about Mormonism that your Mormon superiors will not tell you about. WINDSONG accuses some of us of saying mean and hateful things. What is "mean and hateful" to WINDSONG is well-documented information concerning the history and doctrines of the Mormon Church--information that might appear strange, but that is TRUE, and that you can verify online yourself. No hate, no meanness, just the FACTS. People who think for themselves will learn much from reading these FACTS. WINDSONG, alas, does not fit into that category, being the victim of long-term brainwashing.

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Chick,
When a Christian shows, by the Bible, that a Mormon teaching is cultic -- that is not making fun; that is pointing our the error of their teaching.

True, only God can and will judge Dwight/Skippy. However, all Christians who allow innocent, vulnerable people to be sucked into the Mormon cult religion, thereby losing their own eternal life -- WILL be held accountable to God if we do not tell them it is a cult. So, yes, I do have a vested interest in seeing people read and hear the true Word of God instead of a cult religion's teachings.

When VP chastises me for refuting Dwight/Skippy's Mormon religion -- she is, in effect, agreeing with that false teaching. And, the Roman Catholic church does not support the Mormon church teachings. So, in taking Dwight/Skippy's side in a Christian versus Cult discussion -- VP is going against the teachings of her church. If VP disagrees with this, she should talk with her priest about the issue.
Bill

I feel so sorry for you. Windsong is not the only one that will be judged one day, so will you & it won't be pretty.

As I said, you could learn alot from VP.

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Originally posted by semiannualchick:

quote:

Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Chick,
When a Christian shows, by the Bible, that a Mormon teaching is cultic -- that is not making fun; that is pointing our the error of their teaching.

True, only God can and will judge Dwight/Skippy. However, all Christians who allow innocent, vulnerable people to be sucked into the Mormon cult religion, thereby losing their own eternal life -- WILL be held accountable to God if we do not tell them it is a cult. So, yes, I do have a vested interest in seeing people read and hear the true Word of God instead of a cult religion's teachings.

When VP chastises me for refuting Dwight/Skippy's Mormon religion -- she is, in effect, agreeing with that false teaching. And, the Roman Catholic church does not support the Mormon church teachings. So, in taking Dwight/Skippy's side in a Christian versus Cult discussion -- VP is going against the teachings of her church. If VP disagrees with this, she should talk with her priest about the issue.

I feel so sorry for you. Windsong is not the only one that will be judged one day, so will you & it won't be pretty.

Hi Chick,

You are so right!! Every single one of us WILL stand before Jesus Christ in judgment.

The difference being that for Christian believers -- that will be a judgment of rewards -- and will occur while we who have been raptured are in heaven -- just prior to the Wedding Feast of the Lamb.

The judgment for all who are non-believers will be the Great White Throne Judgment -- and will occur at the end of the 1000 year Millennial Reign of Christ on earth. This will be a judgment of punishment -- for all those folks will have died still rejecting God and Jesus Christ. Revelation 20:11-15 tells us about this judgment and that all of those non-believers WILL go to the Lake of Fire.

Chick, even though you do not like me -- like YOURSELF enough to get right with God before you leave this world. You will be eternally happy if you do.

But, please do not wait too long -- for no one knows when that last breath will happen.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by beternU:

quote:

Originally posted by Jennifer:
Windsong, you've only shown patience when dealing with bill's and bettern-nuns attacks. Right now I'd have to call the "my cult is better than your cult" game for you.

WINDSONG has shown much more evasiveness than he has patience. His old dodge about having a superior standing because he gets his stuff straight from the Holy Spirit is wearing very thin as Windsong continues show studied resistance to actually defending his cultic belief system when its many foibles and inconsistencies and weirdnesses are disclosed for all to see.

WINDSONG, here is a little challenge that your buddy, Skippy, has carefully ignored. Care to take a shot at it? I have given up on Skippy, but if he reads this,, he is welcome to respond this time, which is the third time I have posted it without getting an answer. Repeating for your convenience:

"You say, Skippy, that 'We know that Adam transgressed but not sinned.'

I am astonished, flabbergasted, and shocked that you would come on this public forum, Skippy, and, in front of God and everybody, publicly disagree with the clear teaching of Holy Scripture on this point. Read on and be enlightened and consider publicly apologizing to God and His Apostle.

The Apostle John (not some phony Mormon 'apostle,') who wrote several books of the Bible disagrees with you, Windsong. The Apostle John, in I John 3:4, writes 'sin is the transgression of the law.'"

Your studied avoidance of this obvious, glaring 180-degree contradiction between Mormon teaching and the teaching of the Apostle John is evident to anyone reading the ad hominem tripe you are posting instead of addressing this issue. Tell us, Skippy, is "sin" a "transgression" or is it not? Do you align with the Apostle John or with Mormon doctrine on this point?

Time to cut back on the personal attacks and address the ISSUE, Skippy. Come out, come out, wherever you are. And Windsong, feel free to help Skippy with this task. He obviously needs all the help he can get."

Crowder, I believe Skippy is holding his own quite well, and , as he doesnot jump into my conversations with others, I give him the same respect.

quote:

Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Well, Dwight/Skippy,

To me, a person who has to have multiple posting names to bolster his position -- is the Poster Boy For DECEIT. There we must vote for you in your dual (maybe more) persona.

If sharing the true Written Word of God with folks on the Religion Forum and shining the light of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, the one and only Jesus Christ (He of John 1:1) on the darkness of Mormonism -- is being mean and hateful -- then, I am guilty.

If refuting the many false teachings of the Cult Religion of Mormonism -- through sharing the Written Word of God -- is being mean and hateful -- then, I am guilty.

All I can say is, "Praise God that He has shown me the cult darkness of Mormonism, that I might share this with our Forum Friends!"

And, I make you a solemn promise, Dwight/Skippy. As long as God gives me the means and ability to refute Mormonism on the Religion Forum -- I will continue to be here shining my big God-Light upon your Mormon men/gods and all their cult teachings.

It appears we are going to have a long relationship, Dwight/Skippy -- you sharing darkness -- and me shining the Light of God upon that darkness.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

_______________________________________________

Bill for some reason you continue to want to believe I am Windsong.
I think I finally understand why. I think in your mind you have to convince
yourself you are only dealing with one person. That way you don't stress out
and over load your circuits. But in fact it is me Skippy in the flesh.
speaking of flesh. Glorified flesh. What about John 1:14-
And the word was made Flesh, and dwelt among us,(and we beheld his glory
as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Explain
that one Billy. You keep claiming God and His Son are not of flesh and
bones. This scripture say Christ is of flesh and was the only begotten of His
Father. Back to John 1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with
God, and the Word was God. It says to me exactly what it says. How in the
world do you get that Christ's Church is not true. Do you have some special
decoder ring or something that gives you and only you the ability to see
a different meaning. Come on Bill, you got to better than that.

Keep Marching for the Truth,
Skippy

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Yes, I do say and believe that we are saved, by the grace of God, through faith in Jesus Christ -- plus nothing else. However, that does not include believing in a false Jesus Christ or false gods as they have in the Mormon church.

VP, your own Roman Catholic church is vehemently against the teachings of the Mormon church -- yet, because you are so desperate to find ways in which you can disagree with Bill Gray -- you are willing to go against the teachings of your own church and embrace Mormonism. Maybe you should sit down with your priest and get his views on the Mormon church.

Bill Gray, I am in no way embracing Mormonism. I am a die-hard Catholic. I do believe that is abundantly clear to everyone here.
My point was simply that you harp all the time on "faith in Jesus is all you need for salvation"....if such is true, Mormons believe in Jesus Christ, so leave them the heck alone.
I don't "look" for ways to disagree with you. I simply don't accept or respect your intolerance to others.
And if by Faith we are saved, by golly, I believe the Mormons have that down.

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Originally posted by vplee123:

quote:

Yes, I do say and believe that we are saved, by the grace of God, through faith in Jesus Christ -- plus nothing else. However, that does not include believing in a false Jesus Christ or false gods as they have in the Mormon church.

VP, your own Roman Catholic church is vehemently against the teachings of the Mormon church -- yet, because you are so desperate to find ways in which you can disagree with Bill Gray -- you are willing to go against the teachings of your own church and embrace Mormonism. Maybe you should sit down with your priest and get his views on the Mormon church.

Bill Gray, I am in no way embracing Mormonism. I am a die-hard Catholic. I do believe that is abundantly clear to everyone here.
My point was simply that you harp all the time on "faith in Jesus is all you need for salvation"....if such is true, Mormons believe in Jesus Christ, so leave them the heck alone.
I don't "look" for ways to disagree with you. I simply don't accept or respect your intolerance to others.
And if by Faith we are saved, by golly, I believe the Mormons have that down.

You go V!