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Eat your hearts out, Obama haters--he is da man! The MOST ADMIRED!

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That would not have happened if the poll had been limited to Alabama or to the deep south, I suspect, but this state and region have been out of touch for a long time, so what can you expect? TO cap it off Hillary CLinton is MOST ADMIRED woman.

They are gnashing their teeth across the southland tonight!
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I am not surprised that he was named most admired, what shocked me is that he only got 32%. Surely someone that is worshiped like Obama could have beaten Bushes 39%(in2001). I guess they couldn't have gotten all his disciples to stop bowing down to his statue long enough to vote.

Most Admired doesn't equal experience.
Most Admired doesn't equal right Ideas.
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Originally posted by jcrowder:
Eat your hearts out, Obama haters--he is da man! The MOST ADMIRED!

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That would not have happened if the poll had been limited to Alabama or to the deep south, I suspect, but this state and region have been out of touch for a long time, so what can you expect? TO cap it off Hillary CLinton is MOST ADMIRED woman.

They are gnashing their teeth across the southland tonight!


Of course hillary is admired. She's got a nice rack and gets lots of women.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Schnauzer1:
I am not surprised that he was named most admired, what shocked me is that he only got 32%. Surely someone that is worshiped like Obama could have beaten Bushes 39%(in2001). I guess they couldn't have gotten all his disciples to stop bowing down to his statue long enough to vote.[QUOTE]

It probably would have been much more than 32%, but the polls no doubt were tainted by the still-widespread false reports that Obama is a Muslim, a lie that continues to be propagated and believed by ignorant sheeple, especially in the less well educated areas of the nation, including Alabama and the south. Also, that widely-circulated falsified "quote," wherein Obama is said to have committed to "stand with the Muslims," which he most certainly did NOT say!) no doubt skewed the results of the poll. Many of the same sheeple still believe that egregious lie. As to the notion that he is "worshipped,"it is obvious that you and many others do not know the difference between admiration and worship. Obama is deservedly admired. It smarts, I know, that your candidate, who did not achieve anywhere near that level of admiration, went down in flames along with his airheaded running mate--you betcha he did! Wake up--a truly brilliant man is going to go to the White House, replacing a vacuous puppet who never would have gotten there in the first place but for his Bushian legacy!
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Originally posted by kperk:
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Originally posted by jcrowder:
Eat your hearts out, Obama haters--he is da man! The MOST ADMIRED!

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That would not have happened if the poll had been limited to Alabama or to the deep south, I suspect, but this state and region have been out of touch for a long time, so what can you expect? TO cap it off Hillary CLinton is MOST ADMIRED woman.

They are gnashing their teeth across the southland tonight!


Of course hillary is admired. She's got a nice rack and gets lots of women.


I wonder if Barbara Bush is one of those lusting after her? She is sort of butch ya know.
jcrowder, you are correct. The people won't let go of false rumors. But expect that it will continue to beat the same drum for the next eight years.

The better idea would be for them to actually read the story. They would find out that Bush and McCain were also in the list, although with a very low percentage. But, statistically they were better than others because of popularity.

It is interesting to note that for some reason they separated men and women in their poll. I think it would be better to put them together. So I don't give the poll that much credit.

Bush made the popular list in 2001 because we rallied around the flag for 9/11. It is most likely what will happen in a national crisis. He lost his admiration due to what most considered a fumble that we call Iraq. Had he focused on the goal by finishing Afghanistan and bringing bin Laden to the United States to stand trial he would probably be the most popular today. He could have then had the political clout to carry out any campaign he wished. Unfortunately he didn't have good advisers and he had little to no experience in foreign policy. Dick Cheney didn't turn out to be the foreign policy expert everyone expected or wished for. We hope Biden doesn't let us down like Cheney did.

But, back to the poll. Obama made the list because he is the hot topic right now. To me these polls are more of a popularity contest than a true testament to the person. I say this even though I voted for Obama and think he will make a good president. But, given a different set of circumstances T. Boone Pickens could have made the list. Better yet, pick a movie star. If Britney hadn't gone off in left field she might have made the women's list. Notice the article said a president-elect hasn't led the poll since 1948 (Dwight Eisenhower).

My point is proven when you see Oprah Winfrey made the list. Or better yet, Sarah Palin. No offense to Palin, but she was a virtual unknown until a few months ago. I don't speak to her capabilities or lack thereof, it is simply her sudden fame.

I think someone earlier made the point that Obama was elected. That was probably the best indication of what the people are thinking rather than some poll. McCain had a huge chunk of popular vote so I think a lot of people admired him as well. I could go on and on within the political realm. But I am sure it was an open question and not a political one. It is similar to Time picking person of the year (surely they don't call it "man of the year" anymore). I have seen some really bad people (in my opinion) get that award.

So the political rumors will continue and the pot will be stirred. Obama will take office and live under a magnifying glass for eight years (notice I didn't say four). I suspect we will analyze the Bush administration for a few years like we did Clinton and others. In the end we will find out that Bush had poor advisers and discovered the fact too late to fix it or he owed too many political favors to correct his course. But, to Truman's credit Truman admitted "the buck stops here." And so Bush will take the fall for his decisions.

If the economy turns upright and we can somehow distance ourselves from Iraq Obama may keep a good status. I actually believe we will pull out of the economic crisis. I am not sure what will happen in Iraq. If Obama brings bin Laden to the United States then we will see him make the list again. Otherwise you may get to see Britney Spears.
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Originally posted by onepatriot7:
What a joke these random survey's are. Anyone see the clips where people were asked why they voted for Obama? most of the folks had no idea what he stands for or what his political stance is, this country is asleep at the wheel. God help us!


Can't argue with that! You are so correct. The general population seems to be on autopilot. Hopefully we are wrong about that. But I don't think so.
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Posted 27 December 2008 01:36 AM Hide Post
same people who were gaga over britney, madonna, brad and angelina, paris hilton, et al


Exactly.



What a shame your side has no "icons" to look to except for the likes of Limbaugh, O'Really, Hannity and Chuch Norris. Perhaps you could have won the election. You lost - that is the real problem. In addition, following your silly logic, one then must assume that a fair number of the "Madonna, Brad and Angelina, Paris Hilton et al" also must have voted for bush. Odd that you did not find them so problematic then.
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I doubt they did. And the pop media brains who believe everything that is "popular wisdom" have always been problematic. Thing is there was a time when children were reared in good homes with values taught by their parents who had morals. These children grew to voting age with common sense, values and morals.

Now, obviously, a whole generation of children have learned their values and mores from television, gossip rags, and MTV. That, along with having parents who are too self centered or ignorant to care, has created these cretins who believe that if it's on TV or in a newspaper or if some celebrity says something it must be true.

And, the sillier and lower bred they are - the louder they are, forgetting this: Just because a person is loud and belligerent does not make them right. Just loud and belligerent.
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Originally posted by mammy:
I doubt they did. And the pop media brains who believe everything that is "popular wisdom" have always been problematic. Thing is there was a time when children were reared in good homes with values taught by their parents who had morals. These children grew to voting age with common sense, values and morals.

Now, obviously, a whole generation of children have learned their values and mores from television, gossip rags, and MTV. That, along with having parents who are too self centered or ignorant to care, has created these cretins who believe that if it's on TV or in a newspaper or if some celebrity says something it must be true.

And, the sillier and lower bred they are - the louder they are, forgetting this: Just because a person is loud and belligerent does not make them right. Just loud and belligerent.


There was also a time when women couldn't vote, when owning other human beings was not only ok, but was State-sanctioned, and when burning folks accused of witchcraft as the stake was a good way to keep from getting hexed. Are you longing for those days as well?

Progress comes with upsides and downsides.

Is it the fault of the "generation of children (who) have learned their values and mores from television, gossip rags, and MTV"? Or is it their parents' fault? If the latter, why isn't it their parents' fault for not rearing them better? And the Blame Buck can continue to be passed, ad nauseum.

At some point, people need to stop pointing their fingers at others and accept responsibility for what's going on. Trying to FIX the problem is not as easy as trying to assign blame for it, but it is a lot more productive.
Ancient people lived in groups to survive - looking to the alpha male to make decisions for them - even if those decisions were deadly. Fortunately, most cultures have evolved. Others still have that tribal mentality.

The following excerpt from "A Call to Consciousness" by Nathaniel Brandon sums it up:



Such views are the product of what Branden calls "feel good" self-esteem. They are based in a sense of entitlement and a belief in effortless gratification. "A disservice is done to people," he contends, "if they are offered 'feel good' notions of self-esteem that [are] divorced from questions of consciousness, responsibility, and moral choice." Those who embrace such notions deny the very real demands and exigencies of life. They abdicate decision and recoil at the appearance of challenge. Ultimately, they are in danger of becoming infantilized, naive, and incapable of self-motivation and achievement.

Sound like anybody you know?
Well, I hate to tell you this, but my most admired man is my father. I only wish I had learned more from him. He is still with me, but our time is fleeting. So forget the politicians and the movie stars. They have given me NOTHING but brief entertainment and took from my wallet. My Dad has given me more than I could ask for. My vote: My Dad.
wow i did not know that i was so influenced by the so called bias media,i reckon rush limbaugh and others arent biased at all? i listen to both and make up my own mind.and thats why we have changed the leadership, its not hard to see what has happened to this country. it has been finacially pillaged by power players and the consumers are being blamed for not spending more money? think about it
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i reckon rush limbaugh and others arent biased at all?

Rush Limbaugh, in my opinion, is very selfish and bigoted. In light of his recent actions I only hope his sponsors eventually pull the plug. But as long as people listen to the filth that won't happen. Of course he may have changed since I haven't listened to him in a while, but everything I read tells me he hasn't changed.
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Originally posted by NYTrooper:
peons allowing the media to tell you what to think.


Yes when you are besieged daily by the defacrat propaganda machines, cbs,nbc, and abc; the ignorant can become brainwashed. When day after day they are drenched in the syrup of the holiness of oDAMa, they begin to believe it. Just like cbs's reasons to celebrate promo. Their top rated programming and the grinning face of oDAMa. He MUST be a great guy! cbs says he is. If he wasn't, 60 minutes wouldn't be doing a segment on he and his saintly family tonight.

Yeah a lot of people buy into that. That's why they do it and it worked in the election. The networks know that millions of Americans look at life this way: As long as I can see my favorite shows and favorite teams, I don't give a **** if we become a communist nation just as long as they don't touch my TV and beer.
You know, with people like Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd: KKK member, Don Siegleman: bribes, Kwame Kilpatrick: Detroit Mayor, perjury, obstruction of justice, fired police chief for investigating his mayoral personage, and of course lets not forget Gov. Rod Blagojevich. its no amazing to find Obama as a rising star and most admired from these democrats.
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
What a bunch of hysterial whine and cry.


You're so funny. I guess we know which group you're in. Cool


I find you amusing as well. It is clear from your whining that your man lost - not that it was a secret. Like I said - the fact that Obama won is more the problem here than anything else. All the inclusion of Hilton, Kennedy, blah, blah, blah, is just hyperbolic rambling and wound licking. Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by kperk:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
What a bunch of hysterial whine and cry.


You're so funny. I guess we know which group you're in. Cool


I find you amusing as well. It is clear from your whining that your man lost - not that it was a secret. Like I said - the fact that Obama won is more the problem here than anything else. All the inclusion of Hilton, Kennedy, blah, blah, blah, is just hyperbolic rambling and wound licking. Roll Eyes


And now you can sit back with all of your gay, welfare cheats, baby-killers, drunken lady-killers, pro-druggies, assorted criminal fellow defacrats and enjoy life. Big Grin
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by kperk:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
What a bunch of hysterial whine and cry.


You're so funny. I guess we know which group you're in. Cool


I find you amusing as well. It is clear from your whining that your man lost - not that it was a secret. Like I said - the fact that Obama won is more the problem here than anything else. All the inclusion of Hilton, Kennedy, blah, blah, blah, is just hyperbolic rambling and wound licking. Roll Eyes


And oh yes, barack's on 60 minutes. Go get some fresh panties for later and that goes for you liberal guys also.
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Originally posted by gracies old man:
If I was a bettin' man, I'd wager it won't be the same after he's done his damage.


Yep I bet people won;t admire him after he destroys the economy, wait that has been done.

Oh I know, people won't like him because they have lost their jobs, oh wait, unemployment is higher than it has been in 28 years.

I bet people will have a different opinion when he sends us to war and lies to us why we went, darn it Bush did that too.

Maybe people will not like him when he begins to mismanage the Iraq war, shoot that's been going on.

Maybe business owners will not like him when they have to close their doors because nobody can afford their products or services, oops that's been done too by good ole George.

I know, American's opinion will change whenever their is a natural disaster and he just sits backs and dose nothing. Crap that too has been done.

Well, for the life of me I can't see anything that Obama can do to change the opinion that Republicans have of him because George has pretty much covered everything that a President can do to mess this country up. Thanks George, I sure do feel safe.(The backbone of our country is the economy which is why the terrorist have been targeting the World Trade Center for years. George has done exactly what these terrorist have been trying to do while fooling you guys into thinking that he has kept us safe.)

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