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Originally posted by onepatriot7:
being among the recently unemployed should rank right up there at the top considering the economy and job market


Uh, onepatriot, there is one little problem with what you posted. Being unemployed is being WITHOUT A JOB. Thus, being unemployed can not possibly be a stressful JOB. Ponder on that a while and it should register with you.
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
How about trying to support and feed a family while being unemployed? Does that work for you bitter?


You have described a situation that indeed does involve stress. But you have altogether missed my point. The article cited in the initial post was an article that listed the 10 most stressful JOBS, not the ten most stressful situations of whatever kind. I would find it very stressful to be encountered by an angry grizzly bear while hiking in Yellowstone National Park, but that would not be JOB-related stress, since encountering angry grizzly bears is not part of my JOB. Similarly, "trying to support and feed a family while being unemployed" is not a JOB. It is perhaps something that is being done by a person who has lost a JOB, who is looking for a JOB, who would very much like to have a JOB, but who DOES NOT HAVE A JOB, and thus can not logically be employed in a stressful JOB.

I am in no way putting down anyone for being out of work. I realize that being without a JOB is a stressful thing. But being without a job is NOT one of the 10--or 20, or 100--most stressful JOBS, because being without a JOB is not a JOB.

Can you perhaps now understand that? Or will you continue to be obdurate and opaque to the logic of what I posted so that you can get in a little dig at "bitter"?
Sometimes finding a job IS a job. It can be harder than an actual job. Of course, you don't always have to stay within your personal realm of comfort or qualifications. If a person is truly concerned with supporting his family, he will work wherever work is available. It's never a bad thing to support your family by whatever HONEST means necessary. I'll work at McDonald's again before I let my family suffer.
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Originally posted by Tomme73:
Unless you were a park ranger, beter!


Not a park ranger, park naturalist, or any other part of the National Park Service administration. But I do have a healthy respect for grizzly bears. Those critters will EAT YOU UP!

I worked with a wildlife biologist who had done some field work in the mountain west and who had seen some grizzly bear autopsies following fatal encounters by human beings (fatal to the humans, that is). His descriptions were pretty hair raising.
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Originally posted by beternU:
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
How about trying to support and feed a family while being unemployed? Does that work for you bitter?


You have described a situation that indeed does involve stress. But you have altogether missed my point. The article cited in the initial post was an article that listed the 10 most stressful JOBS, not the ten most stressful situations of whatever kind. I would find it very stressful to be encountered by an angry grizzly bear while hiking in Yellowstone National Park, but that would not be JOB-related stress, since encountering angry grizzly bears is not part of my JOB. Similarly, "trying to support and feed a family while being unemployed" is not a JOB. It is perhaps something that is being done by a person who has lost a JOB, who is looking for a JOB, who would very much like to have a JOB, but who DOES NOT HAVE A JOB, and thus can not logically be employed in a stressful JOB.

I am in no way putting down anyone for being out of work. I realize that being without a JOB is a stressful thing. But being without a job is NOT one of the 10--or 20, or 100--most stressful JOBS, because being without a JOB is not a JOB.

Can you perhaps now understand that? Or will you continue to be obdurate and opaque to the logic of what I posted so that you can get in a little dig at "bitter"?


Depends on the which definition of "job" that you use. You don't have to be employed to have a job. It is your job to make sure everyone on here uses correct English and punctuation. It is also your job to be the obnoxious snob that points out every little detail that may not be 100% correct. I will commend you though, you are very skilled at your job.
being unemployed is a full time job looking for employment, and it's very stressful trying to figure out how you are going to feed to kids, pay the mortgage, keep the lights on, pay your taxes(property, car tags, etc} insurance, water, etc. etc. etc. unless you've been in that situation, unemployed and broke, you have no reason to dispute this...
OKAY, ferrelli and onepatriot, have it your way. If you want to revise the definition of "job" to mean anything anyone is purposefully engaged in, irrespective of any remuneration, then suit yourselves. But when the President or any other politician is speaking of "jobs," and when legislation is introduced to stimulate "jobs," the kinds of jobs under consideration do not include the activities of the unemployed as they go about seeking JOBS because they have no JOBS.

Enjoy the silly season you have created with your lexicographical gynmastics!
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Originally posted by beternU:
OKAY, ferrelli and onepatriot, have it your way. If you want to revise the definition of "job" to mean anything anyone is purposefully engaged in, irrespective of any remuneration, then suit yourselves. But when the President or any other politician is speaking of "jobs," and when legislation is introduced to stimulate "jobs," the kinds of jobs under consideration do not include the activities of the unemployed as they go about seeking JOBS because they have no JOBS.

Enjoy the silly season you have created with your lexicographical gynmastics!


I cannot believe I am saying this but beternU is right on this one.
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Originally posted by HIFLYER:
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Originally posted by beternU:
OKAY, ferrelli and onepatriot, have it your way. If you want to revise the definition of "job" to mean anything anyone is purposefully engaged in, irrespective of any remuneration, then suit yourselves. But when the President or any other politician is speaking of "jobs," and when legislation is introduced to stimulate "jobs," the kinds of jobs under consideration do not include the activities of the unemployed as they go about seeking JOBS because they have no JOBS.

Enjoy the silly season you have created with your lexicographical gynmastics!


I cannot believe I am saying this but beternU is right on this one.


ok, so you work a regular 40 hr week job with pay, on the weekend you need to build a deck or mow the grass, it is common place to say something like man, i'll be glad when i get this "job" finished so i can go back to the tv or lie box as i call it.
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Originally posted by beternU:
OKAY, ferrelli and onepatriot, have it your way. If you want to revise the definition of "job" to mean anything anyone is purposefully engaged in, irrespective of any remuneration, then suit yourselves. But when the President or any other politician is speaking of "jobs," and when legislation is introduced to stimulate "jobs," the kinds of jobs under consideration do not include the activities of the unemployed as they go about seeking JOBS because they have no JOBS.

Enjoy the silly season you have created with your lexicographical gynmastics!


Your apology is accepted. Please let us know when there is any legislation passed to stimulate jobs.

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