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Want to come to Memphis?
Watch this video!!!
http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=2nN8vjFNGpw



Memphis Mayor Willie Herington shaking off the people that disagree with him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KSyNUK9d_c&mode=related&sea


My parents saw this coming in the mid 70's. I was being bused from my neighborhood to the black side of town as part of desegregation. We were part of the original "White Flight" out of Memphis. That's is how I wound up in Killen, AL.
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Wow, great video. I had the pleasure of working in Memphis this spring. Living downtown and working in the Fed building while Willies trial was going on. Been on the road forever and Memphis was the scariest place this white boy has been. I decided the second day that concealed carry was not the way to go and just let them see the iron while I walked to my car. I watch the First 48 on A&E Thursdays, a high percentage of their shows are violent crimes in Memphis. I recognized many of the images in the video from downtown and the Pinch district. Thanks
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Originally posted by skyryder:
I've never had any problem in Memphis. Been all over the city, night and day, have stayed there for weeks(sometimes months) at a time, no problems. But anywhere I go, I am constantly aware of who is around, and what is going on, even in Florence.
But as for Memphis, I really like the city and the people.


I didn't have any problem but also stay aware of what is around me. I do think that it would be easy to be a victim there if you had your head in your butt. Memphis has many cool things, I was there when a dance club closed down (don't remember the name) after about a million years. We went to the party and had a great time. I first stayed down the street from the Peabody in the Kings Court......I would be waken up nightly by hookers and people looking to score dope (from the person who had my room previous). I really liked eating in the Pinch District, lots of history........In Memphis defense, I have worked MANY river towns up and down the Mississippi, Ohio and Missouri, they all have a dangerous air about them for some reason.
I lived in West Memphis for a year, and frequented the Wolfe Chase Mall area quite often during the '90s and early 2000s. I was ALWAYS armed. In June 2005, my family and I traved to New Orleans via AmTrak. We arrived in Memphis around 0430. Scary time to be DOWNtown in Memphis. We saw ZERO cops in the immediate area for the couple of hours we were waiting for our train to arrive.
I have lived in the Memphis area for almost 4 years. Memphis retards itself. Most people who can afford to live out in the county, Collierville, Germantown, or across the state line in MS or AR. Memphis can be a fun place. However, always stay aware of those around you. As I sit here at work in Memphis, there is a loaded 9mm holstered under the drawer of my desk. My boss has a gun in his office as well.
My husband and I moved here from the Shoals area for his job. It is easy to become a victim in Memphis if you let yourself become one. But the same can be said about pretty much every place. Corrupt politicians, poor schools, crappy drivers, urban blight....welcome to America.
I have lived in Chicago, Memphis, and Atlanta. I think Memphis is the most dangerous and prejudice against white people. With Chicago coming in at a close second. Chicago has gotten that worse over the past 10 years. Memphis has been the way it is for the past 20 years.

If Tennessee was to receive an enema the hose would be inserted at Memphis.
I lived in the Memphis area for 20 years. The 1st 10 years was in Memphis, the last 10 , in Bartlett.

When my kids got school age, we lived about 6 blocks from a great school. Yet, my kids were going to have to catch a bus at 6:30 AM to be delivered to a school around 15 miles away , and in a really bad part of town. In fact, my wife taught there in her 1st year of teaching, and was threatened, and once hit. The kids that lived in the neighborhood around that school were of course bussed to the school 6 blocks away from us.
The choice was to either send the kids to private school or move , we moved.
The neighborhood we moved into in Bartlett was brand new houses and every family that was moving in had 3 kids and all were moving out of Memphis to excape the forced bussing.
I did observe the following generalizations; if you were lower income, you lived in Memphis, if you got a little money, you moved to Bartlett, Olive Branch, Southhaven, if you got quite a bit of money, you lived in Germantown, if you were filthy rich, you lived in Memphis!
I am glad I moved to the Shoals!
I have worked in Memphis a few times. A couple of times I stayed in Colliersville and a few time what was then Wilson World.

One of the main things that caught my eyes going through what MUST have been a very high crime rate area was that people pulled their vehicles under carports that were surrounded with wrought iron fencing and had gates that locked the car inside. Bars on the windows and doors too.

What a way to live. Frowner And the last time I was there worked there was nearly 10 years ago.
Everyone agrees that Memphis is bad...also, everyone is afraid to say why. Why is that?

BTW...Birmingham and Huntsville are not far behind Memphis, and for the same reason.


I lived in Memphis about 30 years ago...it was terrible then. I was recently at the Huntsville hospital...better watch your step there too.
My daughter and I make the yearly pilgrimage to Graceland...no problems as yet when we go to Memphis.

There was that one guy who tried to bum a smoke off my Mom around 8am on Beale Street. (We were up ealry, I don't think he'd been to bed yet)...Mama was kinda freaked out by him but for the most part our trips have been uneventful.
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Originally posted by SaltyDog:
Except for the blood on the sidewalk, this video could have been Sheffield. Acutally, if someone had filmed the blood spilled from that poor child down at Riverfront park a couple of months ago, it COULD be Sheffield. I won't get into the racism thing. Suffice it to say that on more than one occassion, I have seen blacks refuse to even sit next to whites. In the city council meetings, in the school auditorium at Willson. It all makes me so so sad.




You must have never been to Memphis. Sheffield is nothing like Memphis even in the pictures.

Those of you that just VISITED may not think its bad. I guarantee if you stay for a few months you will see a difference.
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Originally posted by Invex:
Everyone agrees that Memphis is bad...also, everyone is afraid to say why. Why is that?

BTW...Birmingham and Huntsville are not far behind Memphis, and for the same reason.


I lived in Memphis about 30 years ago...it was terrible then. I was recently at the Huntsville hospital...better watch your step there too.
is this what you are inferring?

Memphis:
The racial makeup of the city was 61.41% African American, 34.41% White, 1.46% Asian, 0.19% Native American, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 1.45% from other races, and 1.04% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.97% of the population.

Birmingham, for reference:
The racial makeup of the city was 73.46% Black or African American, 24.07% White, 0.17% Native American, 0.80% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 0.62% from other races, and 0.83% from two or more races. 1.55% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

and Huntsville:
The racial makeup of the city was 64.47% White, 30.21% Black or African American, 0.54% Native American, 2.22% Asian, 0.06% Pacific Islander, 0.66% from other races, and 1.84% from two or more races. 2.04% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race
monster wrote...


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is this what you are inferring?

Memphis:
The racial makeup of the city was 61.41% African American, 34.41% White, 1.46% Asian, 0.19% Native American, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 1.45% from other races, and 1.04% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.97% of the population.

Birmingham, for reference:
The racial makeup of the city was 73.46% Black or African American, 24.07% White, 0.17% Native American, 0.80% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 0.62% from other races, and 0.83% from two or more races. 1.55% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

and Huntsville:
The racial makeup of the city was 64.47% White, 30.21% Black or African American, 0.54% Native American, 2.22% Asian, 0.06% Pacific Islander, 0.66% from other races, and 1.84% from two or more races. 2.04% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race



Your message doesn't make any sense. Care to erxplain further?
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Originally posted by Invex:
monster wrote...


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is this what you are inferring?

Memphis:
The racial makeup of the city was 61.41% African American, 34.41% White, 1.46% Asian, 0.19% Native American, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 1.45% from other races, and 1.04% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.97% of the population.

Birmingham, for reference:
The racial makeup of the city was 73.46% Black or African American, 24.07% White, 0.17% Native American, 0.80% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 0.62% from other races, and 0.83% from two or more races. 1.55% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

and Huntsville:
The racial makeup of the city was 64.47% White, 30.21% Black or African American, 0.54% Native American, 2.22% Asian, 0.06% Pacific Islander, 0.66% from other races, and 1.84% from two or more races. 2.04% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race



Your message doesn't make any sense. Care to erxplain further?
don't play dumb. you said, "Everyone agrees that Memphis is bad...also, everyone is afraid to say why. Why is that?" so I posted some statistics and asked if thats what you meant. simple enough.
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Originally posted by monster:
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Originally posted by Invex:
monster wrote...


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is this what you are inferring?

Memphis:
The racial makeup of the city was 61.41% African American, 34.41% White, 1.46% Asian, 0.19% Native American, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 1.45% from other races, and 1.04% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.97% of the population.

Birmingham, for reference:
The racial makeup of the city was 73.46% Black or African American, 24.07% White, 0.17% Native American, 0.80% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 0.62% from other races, and 0.83% from two or more races. 1.55% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

and Huntsville:
The racial makeup of the city was 64.47% White, 30.21% Black or African American, 0.54% Native American, 2.22% Asian, 0.06% Pacific Islander, 0.66% from other races, and 1.84% from two or more races. 2.04% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race



Your message doesn't make any sense. Care to erxplain further?
don't play dumb. you said, "Everyone agrees that Memphis is bad...also, everyone is afraid to say why. Why is that?" so I posted some statistics and asked if thats what you meant. simple enough.


Wow, lots of white people in Huntsville!

Killen too
The racial makeup of the town was 95.26% White, 2.23% Black or African American, 0.45% Asian, 1.61% from other races, and 0.45% from two or more races. 2.59% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

Better stay out of dem places
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Originally posted by monster:
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Originally posted by Invex:
monster wrote...


quote:
is this what you are inferring?

Memphis:
The racial makeup of the city was 61.41% African American, 34.41% White, 1.46% Asian, 0.19% Native American, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 1.45% from other races, and 1.04% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.97% of the population.

Birmingham, for reference:
The racial makeup of the city was 73.46% Black or African American, 24.07% White, 0.17% Native American, 0.80% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 0.62% from other races, and 0.83% from two or more races. 1.55% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

and Huntsville:
The racial makeup of the city was 64.47% White, 30.21% Black or African American, 0.54% Native American, 2.22% Asian, 0.06% Pacific Islander, 0.66% from other races, and 1.84% from two or more races. 2.04% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race



Your message doesn't make any sense. Care to erxplain further?
don't play dumb. you said, "Everyone agrees that Memphis is bad...also, everyone is afraid to say why. Why is that?" so I posted some statistics and asked if thats what you meant. simple enough.



You not only NAILED that one, my friend, you headed off the insults that would have been slung your way Big Grin
Crime in Memphis has no color. Yes, the majority of the population is black. Thus, there are a great deal of crimes committed by black people.
IMO, the country as a whole is suffering from a crime problem. If the crime rate is not high somewhere, then usually the crime that does take place seems to be very heinous in nature. Our culture glorifies violence why do we expect any better?
The problem with Memphis isn't really race, crime, or poverty. It comes down to one thing, corruption. Memphis politicians are some of the most corrupt and crooked in the country. Just look at the Ford's, Harold Ford is on his way to jail thanks to the Tennessee Waltz sting operation, Ophelia Ford had dead people and felons voting for her, that's just the tip of the iceberg.

When the people who are supposed to be leading a city are more concerned with using it for personal gain, you get all the problems Memphis is facing right now. I stay as far away from that place as possible.
Nashbama ...would you go to downtown Memphis and wal through a section 8 project, alone, day or night?

I think the least of your problems would be a corrupt politician.

The real problem lies with everyone wanting to make excuses for what is really wrong. Stop the gubment cheese and free housing, let people stand on their own for a change, they may gain a little self respect.

And besides, if they are working they can't get 30,000 of them together to go to La. to try to force mob rule on the local law enforcement.
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Nashbama ...would you go to downtown Memphis and wal through a section 8 project, alone, day or night?


Those areas are due to neglect. Who neglects them? The people responsible for running them. If Memphis had leaders who weren't afraid to clean up the town, it would be a nice place. Unfortunately, they're too worried about themselves, so you've got section 8 projects everywhere and bums begging for money downtown.
@Nashbama...

Below I will quote a message from a shelby county sheriffs deputy concerning this subject. I agree with him totally.

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Had to weigh in here. Especially on the poster who made the comment about Germantown and crime. I work for the Shelby County Sheriff's Dept. Sorry to break the news to you but crime isn't reported as much in the county because there isn't as much violent crime. I am a black male and I've heard black people in this town make that same excuse for years. Statistically, areas in Memphis where there is section 8 property make up 90% of the crime in Memphis. It's actually just the opposite of the claim you made about crime in Germantown not making the news. Crime in these type areas does make the news now more than ever before. Mainly because the residence are more concerned about the value of their neighborhoods and the media loves to focus on how Memphis's out of control crime rate is spreading to what was once considered safe areas. And yeah, if you live in the inner city I suggest you have access to a LEGAL firearm.

Also, you know what type people say "Crime is the same everywhere you go. It ain't just Memphis"? Those are people who have probably never been to many other places. One poster mentioned Atlanta. Atlanta does have its crime issues but the Metro-Atlanta area has somewhere around 5 million people. Memphis and Shelby county has a little over a million. The proportions are higher for memphis. I wouldn't put Atlanta in the same category as Memphis. Totally different league.

One poster made an excellent point. The city is lackluster due to generations of inbreeding. Especially in the black communities. No fresh perspectives or new ideas. The stubborn resistance to change. Just more voting for politicians with names you recognize, i.e. Ford, Hooks, Herenton. And yes, black churches and how they exploit the poor, black, and hopeless. Just keep paying and praying. But never making a REAL commitment to change.

Memphis has potential because of the large population. But I don't believe this city was intended to be more than what it is now. The distribution hub. Why do wage-earning box-throwers need to be educated when they think $10/hr. is "Good Money"? Why have a stellar school system when there aren't enough well paying jobs to go around?

With all that being said, I'll give credit where it's due. The mayor has done an okay job considering what he's had to work with. I'm not a Herenton fan but consider this. The city has two separate governments and those who live in the inner city, where the vast majority of the poor people reside, fit most of the bill for the entire county with the double tax and all. No tangible economic growth for the inner city, ignorant adults raising their children to be ignorant, unemployment (but who wants to hire someone that can hardly speak the English language), and let's not forget how those who live outside the city want to have nothing to do with being a part of Memphis. There has been no desire on the county's part to consolidate this backwards system. The mayor has done what he's only been able to do, try to generate money for the city from tourist dollars. Education and jobs is the answer. I also blame poor parenting in the black community. Young "mamas" and "baby daddies" following their children's lead.

I'm not being pessimistic. But I don't see a bright future for the citizens of inner city Memphis. The affluent will continue to hoard the wealth while the mislead, misguided masses continue to support those who exploit them, hoping one day they will be included in the prosperity.
Everyone agrees that Memphis is bad...also, everyone is afraid to say why. Why is that?

BTW...Birmingham and Huntsville are not far behind Memphis, and for the same reason.


I lived in Memphis about 30 years ago...it was terrible then. I was recently at the Huntsville hospital...better watch your step there too.



I came home one afternoon this week. You guys just have no idea how wonderful that area is. Memphis and Birmingham are like Siamese twins. Graft, corruption, parasitism.

I actually had reentry shock about the time I hit I20/59.

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