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Originally posted by Southern_Guy:
If there was a story here, the F.B.I. would be investigating it. Oh wait, they are.


Just because the FBI is investigating does not mean there WAS wrongdoing, it just means someone has ALLEDGED wrongdoing. Many times when some hardankle is in dire need of a forceful,symmetrical,stroking of the skull with a blunt object (repeat as needed if first application does not produce desired results),the uninitiated and faint of heart overreact and mistakenly report civil rights violations.
Having been the target of malicious accusations a couple of times, I can affirm that having the feds investigate is not unusual in this type case, the local/state authorities don't want to get accused of whitewashing such a case so in come the feds. I don't have any idea what the number of investigations compared to actual procecutions is, but my cases were closed with no wrongdoing found.
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Originally posted by Southern_Guy:
The faint of heart in this case would be other police officers involved......


That's what I understood from earlier posts, and it's a real shame. There were some of those back in the good old days too. Early on I might even have been considered a borderline one, until I ran across one of those misunderstood (but really good guys who worked all day physically throwing railroad boxcars from track to track)decided to decline my request to accompany me to jail and attempted to disconnect my head with his fist (only a very slight allegorical stretch of the truth related to his employment). It was a very moving moment, the skies opened, the truth enveloped me, and I was immediately filled with the knowledge that I was to immediately strike him vigorously and repeatedly about the head, shoulders, and assorted other places with a blunt object until he decided to cease and desist.
Lesson #1 from this was, the faint of heart either never accomplish anything other than putting miles on a car, or they get themselves or another officer hurt or killed.
Lesson #2 was carry more blunt objects than you ever think you will need, otherwise you WILL run out before you get done!
You are absolutely correct Shel. MSPD should issue an update regarding this incident. I wonder if the TD has considered following up on this story? I doubt anyone "official" will tell us average folks what's going on. Someone should contact the local media and ask them to do a follow up broadcast.

Heeeeeeeeeeey IJS! I've missed you. Can you help us out with this? You've acknowledged that you have access to "inside" information regarding this incident. Are the Feds investigating this incident and accusations of police misconduct? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Originally posted by Southern_Guy:
Heeeeeeeeeeey IJS! I've missed you. Can you help us out with this? You've acknowledged that you have access to "inside" information regarding this incident. Are the Feds investigating this incident and accusations of police misconduct? A simple yes or no will suffice.


Well, SG, if there was anything new to report, I'd be more than happy to let you in on it. Looks like whoever is handling this has more pressing issues at hand, doesn't it?
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Originally posted by Southern_Guy:
You are absolutely correct Shel. MSPD should issue an update regarding this incident. I wonder if the TD has considered following up on this story? I doubt anyone "official" will tell us average folks what's going on. Someone should contact the local media and ask them to do a follow up broadcast.

Heeeeeeeeeeey IJS! I've missed you. Can you help us out with this? You've acknowledged that you have access to "inside" information regarding this incident. Are the Feds investigating this incident and accusations of police misconduct? A simple yes or no will suffice.


The FEDS are TOO busy investigating crooked and corrupt politicians/congressmen.

Call Mayor Bradford and ask him regarding the status of this "non-story".
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Originally posted by Southern_Guy:
The Chief basically confirmed an allegation (from within) of misconduct. The investigation is in the hands of the F.B.I. now.....only time will tell.


SG... why are you asking little 'ol me where this stands? As you can see from above -- you are the one that reported the FBI's involvement.
If I had anything new to report, believe me-- I would. If any new developments have happened, I've not heard of them - therefore I can't pass it on to you. I know how this must be eating at you, SG, these officers going on about their business as FREE men.. but as I've said before -- we'll just have to wait until the proper people get around to dealing with this... if they ever do. Don't you have another thread you can go play on since this one has all but played out for the time being?? LOL
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IJS,

You probably did miss something. The link to yesterdays story was pretty much hidden and the TD did their best to hide the article among the "garbage" in the actual paper. However, it did state that the incident was being investigated by the F.B.I., so....Shel got the confirmation that he/she so desperately needed.

It still amazes me how you attempt to downplay the entire incident.

"Has anything new happened or is it still sitting on a desk somewhere covered up with more important cases?"

"Covered up" was a great choice of words though. I have no doubt that agencies outside of the MSPD have or are in the process of investigating the incident. I do doubt the effort that MSPD has put into it.
Oh SG.. just because I'm not as obsessed with this as you obviously are doesn't mean I'm downplaying anything. It stated in the article the man wasn't even injured. LOL So, I'm sure the FBI have more pressing matters- which is what I meant by "covered up".
(and WH, its no surprise to see you here on a thread about LEOs )
Even if the TD tried to hide the article, once the article was found, the information in it almost put me to sleep. (once I accessed the archives and found it) It didn't tell us anything new because there IS nothing new. We're STILL waiting for them to get around to it. I mean, do you really think if there were some real meat to this incident SOMETHING would have happened by now?
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Originally posted by I'mJustSaying:
Oh SG.. just because I'm not as obsessed with this as you obviously are doesn't mean I'm downplaying anything. It stated in the article the man wasn't even injured. LOL So, I'm sure the FBI have more pressing matters- which is what I meant by "covered up".
(and WH, its no surprise to see you here on a thread about LEOs )
Even if the TD tried to hide the article, once the article was found, the information in it almost put me to sleep. (once I accessed the archives and found it) It didn't tell us anything new because there IS nothing new. We're STILL waiting for them to get around to it. I mean, do you really think if there were some real meat to this incident SOMETHING would have happened by now?


You claim that you're not obsessed, but you continue to come back and visit. Maybe it's that strong desire to protect a loved one....who knows.....I'm just saying. So let me get this right...the person has to be injured to have his civil rights violated? It appears that there is "meat" to this story since the A.B.I. felt the need to get the F.B.I. involved. Oh, that's right....every accusation against an officer is investigated by the State Police and the Feds. There's definitely "meat" to the story....hopefully the Chief will be able to trim some "fat" soon.
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Originally posted by Southern_Guy:
I stand corrected wright...apparently I was wrong (sorry, I couldn't resist). I must have read the hidden story too fast....yanno...A.B.I., F.B.I, O.C.N.I.........very confusing!


I agree. I had to read it twice. Only reason I asked is because that would be outside of the normal way of doing things. If the ABI found nothing it would only apply to state criminal laws. The FBI will investigate USC 1983 civil rights issues. Maybe it will end there whatever the outcome may be.
SG... It appears this thread can be down at the bottom of the page or over on the next page for several days and all of a sudden, it will be bumped back up to the top by your posts of "anything new?" I'm not obsessed with this, but seeing as how I do know one of the officers accused, I do have an interest in it, so naturally when I see this topic towards the top of the list, I click it. (even though I have seen a lot of redundancy) Do you know either of them personally? Just wondering why the intense concern. Its kinda like old news, isn't it? I mean, until the investigators get around to reporting their findings(if there are any) .... *** yawn*** THERE IS NOTHING NEW TO TELL.
I can't take credit for bumping the post up this time. It was someone else....I promise! What may be "old news" to you and I....may be "new" news to someone else. I think that's how the post got bumped to begin with. Plus, there has to be a little interest in this or the TD wouldn't sneak an update in the paper from time to time.

Do I know these officers?.....yes.....Do we cuddle and swap spit?......nope. Did they take my milk and cookies?.....no.

I'm not sure I would call my concern "intense"....but I am concerned. The public should be concerned. These officers have been left on patrol pending the outcome of this investigation and that concerns me. How many more complaints against them will surface before the conclusion of this investigation?

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