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The item has to be an exact match. Same brand, rating, weight, cut etc....
If the ad says USDA grade and the package didn't, they have the right to refuse.
Usually, a good checker can tell you this up front.
If the ad says USDA grade and the package didn't, they have the right to refuse.
Usually, a good checker can tell you this up front.
Has to be like quality. From Wal Marts web site:
•We do honor "Preferred Shopping Card" advertised prices. Must be like items, be advertised and require a competitor's shopping card, for the discount to apply.
http://walmartstores.com/7659.aspx
That being said, see this article, speaks directly to the 'beef' statement:
http://www.nbcdfw.com/blogs/pe...exican-95872784.html
From the article:
The CSM proceeded to hand me back the comp-ad from El Rio Grande Supermercado in Grand Prairie stating, "We don't accept ads from Mexican stores."
Mexican stores?
Needless to say, we got into a lengthy discussion about why Walmart excluded stores of a specific ethnicity. The answer: "Their quality is inferior to Walmart's."
In my most polite southern manner, I delved deeper into the mystery asking how Walmart could possibly know the quality of meat at each store. The cashier at the next register over joined in the discussion and confirmed, "Their quality is really low." This was news to me. I'm no expert, but I kind of thought the USDA determined quality. Apparently I was mistaken.
This was referring to beef from a mexican supermarket in the US, but if the items were like quality, I would take this article into the store and ask them if you should discuss it with the district manager.....
Jeepin'
•We do honor "Preferred Shopping Card" advertised prices. Must be like items, be advertised and require a competitor's shopping card, for the discount to apply.
http://walmartstores.com/7659.aspx
That being said, see this article, speaks directly to the 'beef' statement:
http://www.nbcdfw.com/blogs/pe...exican-95872784.html
From the article:
The CSM proceeded to hand me back the comp-ad from El Rio Grande Supermercado in Grand Prairie stating, "We don't accept ads from Mexican stores."
Mexican stores?
Needless to say, we got into a lengthy discussion about why Walmart excluded stores of a specific ethnicity. The answer: "Their quality is inferior to Walmart's."
In my most polite southern manner, I delved deeper into the mystery asking how Walmart could possibly know the quality of meat at each store. The cashier at the next register over joined in the discussion and confirmed, "Their quality is really low." This was news to me. I'm no expert, but I kind of thought the USDA determined quality. Apparently I was mistaken.
This was referring to beef from a mexican supermarket in the US, but if the items were like quality, I would take this article into the store and ask them if you should discuss it with the district manager.....
Jeepin'
And for those that dont click on the article above, Walmart apologized for not price matching due to 'inferior quality' of a mexican grocery store in the USA. I would say that would run pretty well in line with saying that Big Star beef is inferior. 85/15 or 70/30 is the same be it Walmart or Bigstar. Can anyone confirm that 'USDA choice' actually means anything other than the fact that USDA approved it?
I can tell you from experience, Wal Mart ground beef is not better than most of the smaller grocers. In fact, my wife will buy it from Pig over Wally any day of the week!
Jeepin'
I can tell you from experience, Wal Mart ground beef is not better than most of the smaller grocers. In fact, my wife will buy it from Pig over Wally any day of the week!
Jeepin'
Yes, I'm no butcher, and for sure can't look at a piece of beef and tell the grade, but there are several grades of beef, and since the flavor has a lot to do with how much marbling of fat is in the beef itself, the more marbling , the better the grade. Most of what people buy at supermarkets is "choice", but "prime" is the best, "select" and "standard" are the lowest.
Check it out: http://meat.tamu.edu/beefgrading.html
Check it out: http://meat.tamu.edu/beefgrading.html
Walmart ought to be glad anyone is buying their meat at any price.
i don't buy meat at walmart any more.
it's all shiped frozen, pre packaged, heavily proccessed and hormoned and preservatived and .. nasty. the last pack of meat i gopt at wal mart tasted like freeze dried, beef flavored rubber.
but yes - as far as price matching goes, it must be the exact same thing.
on pre packaged, non produce items it must match down to the serial number and UPC code.
i worked in electronics, so i don't know exactly how the grocery items are handled.
i do know that at the time i saw there we had a 32 inch sony PiP tv. sears had one that was picture perfect identical. same features. same size. same color. samy lady on the box smiling at her new TV.
but the model number was one digit different, so we couldn't match the price. people had fits abotu it, and i had sony's number written down to pass out and told the complaining people to takwe it up with sony, cause they were the ones who made 2 of the same tv with a different number, *I* could only go by the rules i was given.
that whole place has turned to crap since sam died and his money grubbers took over.
it's all shiped frozen, pre packaged, heavily proccessed and hormoned and preservatived and .. nasty. the last pack of meat i gopt at wal mart tasted like freeze dried, beef flavored rubber.
but yes - as far as price matching goes, it must be the exact same thing.
on pre packaged, non produce items it must match down to the serial number and UPC code.
i worked in electronics, so i don't know exactly how the grocery items are handled.
i do know that at the time i saw there we had a 32 inch sony PiP tv. sears had one that was picture perfect identical. same features. same size. same color. samy lady on the box smiling at her new TV.
but the model number was one digit different, so we couldn't match the price. people had fits abotu it, and i had sony's number written down to pass out and told the complaining people to takwe it up with sony, cause they were the ones who made 2 of the same tv with a different number, *I* could only go by the rules i was given.
that whole place has turned to crap since sam died and his money grubbers took over.
Most stores around the area carry USDA Select which is a lower Grade and Less expensive than USDA Choice. Interestingly I have rarely seen Choice grade in the meat case at Wal-Mart, most of what they have is also USDA Select.
Since Winn-Dixie closed up around here he only place with much selection of Choice grade is Sam's.
Anyway, if USDA Choice beef was brought up to be comparison priced with USDA Select beef then it is understandable that they would decline to match the price, sorta like wanting to buy gold for the price of silver.
Since Winn-Dixie closed up around here he only place with much selection of Choice grade is Sam's.
Anyway, if USDA Choice beef was brought up to be comparison priced with USDA Select beef then it is understandable that they would decline to match the price, sorta like wanting to buy gold for the price of silver.
I've never asked about USDA grade at O'Guirre's, but without exception every beef item I've ever bought there has been far superior to what I've gotten at area grocery stores.
I like Big Stars meat, good prices too.
I buy my meats from 2 stores, beef and pork from Foodland Plus in Sheffield, and chicken from Food Market in Sheffield. Food Market's chicken is cheaper than Foodland's. Wal-Mart's meat is just too high.
There's 8 quality levels for beef. Prime, Choice, Select, Standard, commercial, utility, cutter and canner.
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/facts..._&_grading/index.asp
When the meat isn't stamped there is nothing stopping the store from saying that their meat is Choice grade, when it actually is Select, although to give the benefit of the doubt it could be very close.
quote:
Prime grade Image of Prime Label is produced from young, well-fed beef cattle. It has abundant marbling and is generally sold in restaurants and hotels. Prime roasts and steaks are excellent for dry-heat cooking (broiling, roasting, or grilling).
Choice grade Image of Choice Label is high quality, but has less marbling than Prime. Choice roasts and steaks from the loin and rib will be very tender, juicy, and flavorful and are, like Prime, suited to dry-heat cooking. Many of the less tender cuts, such as those from the rump, round, and blade chuck, can also be cooked with dry heat if not overcooked. Such cuts will be most tender if "braised" — roasted, or simmered with a small amount of liquid in a tightly covered pan.
Select grade Image of Select Label is very uniform in quality and normally leaner than the higher grades. It is fairly tender, but, because it has less marbling, it may lack some of the juiciness and flavor of the higher grades. Only the tender cuts (loin, rib, sirloin) should be cooked with dry heat. Other cuts should be marinated before cooking or braised to obtain maximum tenderness and flavor.
Standard and Commercial grades – are frequently sold as ungraded or as "store brand" meat.
Utility, Cutter, and Canner grades are seldom, if ever, sold at retail but are used instead to make ground beef and processed products.
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/facts..._&_grading/index.asp
When the meat isn't stamped there is nothing stopping the store from saying that their meat is Choice grade, when it actually is Select, although to give the benefit of the doubt it could be very close.
quote:Originally posted by BandMom:
It was actually a roast. My shock was not so much from the fact that they would not price match but the fact that she said that their meat is better quality than "all these other little stores." Big Star's ad actually stated "heavy western boneless beef." Ok so it did not say USDA but doesn't that just mean that the meat has been approved for sale by the USDA? Is all meat not required to be approved by them before it can be sold? Just curious!
Yes, you are right. The USDA approval on meat means that it has been handled at the slaughter house in an approved manner, and should be safe for human consumption. Dosn't have anything to do with how good it will taste.
More than you want to know on th esubject:
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/facts..._&_grading/index.asp
Off but related to the subject>>FoodWorld advertised in the paper and had even made a large laminated sign at the store further emblazoned with WOW in big red ltetters that they were selling solid white tuna for 99 cents a can. This is actually light tuna - not solid- guess who removed sign and turned it upside down! Yes, semi, I did!They know people just grab a couple or three cans of tuna. False advertising! Read the label!
quote:Originally posted by seeweed:quote:Originally posted by BandMom:
It was actually a roast. My shock was not so much from the fact that they would not price match but the fact that she said that their meat is better quality than "all these other little stores." Big Star's ad actually stated "heavy western boneless beef." Ok so it did not say USDA but doesn't that just mean that the meat has been approved for sale by the USDA? Is all meat not required to be approved by them before it can be sold? Just curious!
Yes, you are right. The USDA approval on meat means that it has been handled at the slaughter house in an approved manner, and should be safe for human consumption. Dosn't have anything to do with how good it will taste.
More than you want to know on th esubject:
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/facts..._&_grading/index.asp
If you scroll about halfway down your linked page then you will find the information on grading. As I had said before, I am surprised to find that Wal-Mart has much of anything that is Choice grade, most of what I have seen there is labled USDA Select. If it was a Choice grade roast then they were right in not matching the price for a Select grade roast.
As I mentioned the store can call it Select, and it actually not be what the USDA considers Select. The key is if what Big Star sells is actually USDA certified.
Well yu might as well give up on Wal-Mart. They will not change a Car Battery or on many watches will not replace that battery. Last trips I have been there shelves empty to poorly stocked. Dim witted stock people that will not help you. Go to the manager, no he is the one that ordered the battery problem. I am through with them. Meat is sorry and prices are going up every day. I will be more selective in other stores and will do o.k.quote:Originally posted by ryokurin:
As I mentioned the store can call it Select, and it actually not be what the USDA considers Select. The key is if what Big Star sells is actually USDA certified.
It's always best to look for the USDA ink stamp on the whole roasts to have an idea of what the smaller cuts are. If a cut is either USDA Choice or USDA Prime then the stamp will be prominatly displayed on the packaging of th cuts as they are worth a lot more than USDA Select or any of the lower grades.
Well...if you want quality, just shop where they say...
"You can beat our prices...but you can't "beat our meat"
"You can beat our prices...but you can't "beat our meat"
They (M S Walmart) wouldn't match Florence Walmart on a tv price for me. Florence Walmart had it on sale but had none in stock, so I had them call Muscle Shoals Walmart. They had one. Drove over there and I was just outta luck on the sale price. I even asked for my gas money back. lol. Finaly complained enough that the Florence store ordered me on at the sale price. Money in pocket for a new tv and 5 days to get it.
I don't know who is in charge of reordering for the Russellville Wal Mart but they need to be fired or taught how to do there job better. They are always out of everything I go in there to buy(the shelves are empty). It's very irritating. Surely it's not that hard to keep stock ordered and restocked on the shelves in a small town like Russellville.
On a side note I recently went to the Wal Mart in Florence and was amazed at their inventory. They have everything in that store including stuff I have never seen at any other store. I may just have to start driving to Florence from now on.
On a side note I recently went to the Wal Mart in Florence and was amazed at their inventory. They have everything in that store including stuff I have never seen at any other store. I may just have to start driving to Florence from now on.
quote:Originally posted by dark dreamer:
I don't know who is in charge of reordering for the Russellville Wal Mart but they need to be fired or taught how to do there job better. They are always out of everything I go in there to buy(the shelves are empty). It's very irritating. Surely it's not that hard to keep stock ordered and restocked on the shelves in a small town like Russellville.
On a side note I recently went to the Wal Mart in Florence and was amazed at their inventory. They have everything in that store including stuff I have never seen at any other store. I may just have to start driving to Florence from now on.
Those shelves are always empty because that quality Chinese merchandise just flies off the shelf faster than Wally can re-stock...
Not everything Wal Mart sells comes from china. Though I do realize that lots of things there do. Everything I buy there regularly which usually consist of food and over the counter medicines, cat/dog food and when I read the packaging it says it was made and packaged in places like Missouri, Ohio, NY and Arkansas.
I don't buy clothes at Wal Mart. I would figure most of those do indeed come from China but that is another topic entirely.
Maybe all the Mexicans around here are clearing the shelves before I get there every time. Maybe the Russellville Wal Mart is built on an old Indian burial ground and the spirits are unhappy and playing games with us. Maybe space aliens are beaming up all their inventory overnight.
I don't know but it is very irritating. Like I said I'm gonna start driving to the Florence location where they actually keep their shelves stocked and have a good inventory to choose from.
I don't buy clothes at Wal Mart. I would figure most of those do indeed come from China but that is another topic entirely.
Maybe all the Mexicans around here are clearing the shelves before I get there every time. Maybe the Russellville Wal Mart is built on an old Indian burial ground and the spirits are unhappy and playing games with us. Maybe space aliens are beaming up all their inventory overnight.
I don't know but it is very irritating. Like I said I'm gonna start driving to the Florence location where they actually keep their shelves stocked and have a good inventory to choose from.
Walmart has a computer network in place to determine when stores get what items. Russellville's store does not produce the same sales as Florence's or Muscle Shoals' so they don't get the same variety and amount of products. Walmart keeps up with inventory by tracking specific items sold. Nobody orders everything for the store. The computer handles it all. A manager can make a special order if a special product is needed for some reason, but this rarely happens. And for you to go off and use the Mexican card shows your ignorance of the situation. By the way many Walmart in small communities have the exact same problem that you mention. This is just how Walmart chooses to operate.
Thanks for pointing out how ignorant I am. You have a great day!
quote:Originally posted by dark dreamer:
Thanks for pointing out how ignorant I am. You have a great day!
Does it not amaze you that people have such insight on the operations of WalMart? They are so incompetent it is pathetic. They may have all the "Grocery" computers, but some lazy dip cannot seem to get the goods on the shelf. No excuse for that, no excuse for normal everyday service either. They need to re-assess their their position on "People Needs". MHO
Well you are trying to blame the shelves being bare on our Hispanic neighbor and friends. It seemed like you feel they beat you to something you feel entitled to. Racism is not pretty. The only way to combat it in a public setting is to speak out against it. This is a public forum. Racism is ignorance plain and simple.
You take things way to seriously dude. It's obvious you are a newbie on this board or you would know I don't have a racist bone in my body and I have many Hispanic friends. Go read some of my post on here and you'll see that I am not and never have been a racist. Lighten up.
I was pretty much grasping at straws trying to figure out why the shelves are always empty.
Check out this latest thread and what I had to say about this subject.
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...21043475/m/388102201
I challenge you to search all my post on this forum and find one racist remark. You won't cause there aren't any.
I'm through discussing this with you. It's a complete waste of my time and to the people reading this thread.
Good day sir.
I was pretty much grasping at straws trying to figure out why the shelves are always empty.
Check out this latest thread and what I had to say about this subject.
http://forums.timesdaily.com/e...21043475/m/388102201
I challenge you to search all my post on this forum and find one racist remark. You won't cause there aren't any.
I'm through discussing this with you. It's a complete waste of my time and to the people reading this thread.
Good day sir.