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Originally Posted by Crumbpicker:
Originally Posted by O No!:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Half the country are democrats? More of that weird democratic math.

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http://pewresearch.org/pubs/77...ntify-as-republicans

 

Yes, if you count those registered, and the independents who lean Democratic, it is over 50%. (Which is one of the reasons Obama won yesterday.)

 

Everyone who voted for Obama would not have been Democrat. I would guess he got some votes from people who just didn't like Romney and the independents can't be counted for or against the democrats.

He did win the popular vote by about 2.5 million giving him a 51.2% of the total vote.

 

Not exactly a landslide as predicted by the liberals and I hope he realizes that. Right now, half the US wants him and the other half doesn't.  Not a great place to be.

 

Very similar to GW's first term.

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crumb, I agree! and I also agree with "if we don't find some common ground, we're gonna be in the same shape in 4 more years!" lets hope we can all find some common ground!

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

What I'm going to do is none of your business. Take care of your own.

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I know! You can rob a couple of those tax exempt churches and pay your taxes with that money! Then those evil old churches would be paying taxes without even knowing it! After that you can hold all of those welfare mothers hostage until they pay for birth control because even though studies prove that free birth control prevents abortions, you don't want them to have either - the free birth control OR abortions.

 

No, wait a minute, I think we determined that you hate people on welfare so you don't MIND if THEY have abortions - that way there will be fewer of them.

 

And come to think of it, if you rob churches, they won't have the money to help the poor, and then they would have to turn to the government.

 

What a QUANDRY! I guess the only way to make you happy would be if all the poor, and all the churches and all Democrats just "self-deported". Then you could have the country all to yourself.

 

I guess most of you didn't bother reading the link I posted. Here is what it said:

 

The share of voters who call themselves Republicans has declined by six points since 2004, and represents, on an annualized basis, the lowest percentage of self-identified Republican voters in 16 years of polling by the Center.

The Democratic Party has also built a substantial edge among independent voters. Of the 37% who claim no party identification, 15% lean Democratic, 10% lean Republican, and 12% have no leaning either way.

By comparison, in 2004 about equal numbers of independents leaned toward both parties. When "leaners" are combined with partisans, however, the Democratic Party now holds a 14-point advantage among voters nationwide (51% Dem/lean-Dem to 37% Rep/lean-Rep), up from a three-point advantage four years ago.

Uh Oh duckie, a few more Republicans or Independents in the making??

 

http://savingcommonsense.blogs...peal-to-sincere.html

 

 

With the presidential election just next week, it has become readily apparent to me that many good and faithful Catholics these days can feel torn between adhering to their faith and a sense of loyalty to the Democratic Party. Indeed Catholicism and the Democrat Party have had very strong ties that have gone back for many generations in this nation. That said, today’s Democratic Party has shifted its platform to the point where, in my humble opinion, a faithful Catholic would be hard pressed to vote for most Democratic candidates today. With that assertion, let’s take an honest look and assess where the Democrat Party stands now in relation to Christ’s Church.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Uh Oh duckie, a few more Republicans or Independents in the making??

 

http://savingcommonsense.blogs...peal-to-sincere.html

 

 

With the presidential election just next week, it has become readily apparent to me that many good and faithful Catholics these days can feel torn between adhering to their faith and a sense of loyalty to the Democratic Party. Indeed Catholicism and the Democrat Party have had very strong ties that have gone back for many generations in this nation. That said, today’s Democratic Party has shifted its platform to the point where, in my humble opinion, a faithful Catholic would be hard pressed to vote for most Democratic candidates today. With that assertion, let’s take an honest look and assess where the Democrat Party stands now in relation to Christ’s Church.

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You poor thing! Try again!

 

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/1...e-to-re-elect-obama/

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

I doubt you can play any game, you can't seem to "keep up or follow along". BTW duckie, (?) at the end of a sentence means it's a question, not a statement.

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You're making even less sense than usual. All that teeth gnashing must have tired you out. Why don't you go to bed early and get some rest? You're going to need it in the days ahead because all that hate will wear you out.

 

Originally Posted by O No!:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

I doubt you can play any game, you can't seem to "keep up or follow along". BTW duckie, (?) at the end of a sentence means it's a question, not a statement.

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You're making even less sense than usual. All that teeth gnashing must have tired you out. Why don't you go to bed early and get some rest? You're going to need it in the days ahead because all that hate will wear you out.

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I'm fine. I've got good clear lungs and plenty of energy. I don't have to go to bed at 6 p.m. Why don't you smoke another pack of those $5.00 to $15.00 a pack of cigarettes then tell us how you need free healthcare.

Never said I needed free health care. Never took a dime of taxpayer money for health care or anything else as a matter of fact. I DO need an insurance company that will not reject me for my celiac disease which they consider a pre-existing condition. Under the Affordable Care Act, I will be able to buy insurance now that was denied me before.

 

I know you think it's terrible that insurance companies should actually be held accountable. I'm sure you just love it when you hear about people being denied coverage or dropped by their insurance companies when they become sick, and the insurance company decides it would be too expensive to keep the promises they made while the person was paying all those premiums for all those years. You probably have a good laugh over that. Heck, white Republicans never get sick, right? It's just those Christian Democrats, and who cares if they die?

 

Now, go to bed, Best. You're getting punchy.

Go ahead and "speak" for me ono. That's all you ever do. You tell me what I think of everything even though you have no idea, because apparently you want to fight with me so badly that you never ever read one of my posts when I do state my opinions. No, I'm not punchy, I "speak" my mind, and I have every right to do that, and it goes back to that fact that I have never yet ,and will never, kiss your behind and tell you how wonderful and smart you are. Because you are neither.

 

You should go back and read your old posts ono, then see if you still have the nerve to call others hate filled and bitter simply because they don't share your politics, or your "religion". You're like some kind of rabid loony rat when someone dares to disagree with you. Tell us ono, who do YOU love? The republicans ono? Do you love them? How about atheists ono? Did you love George Bush ono? Did you respect him? How about Romney ono-tell us how you respected him, tell us how the democrats loved and respected him. Or do feel you are allowed to pick and choose who you love and or respect, but no one else is supposed to do that? Then explain why you are allowed to trash talk people that don't agree with you, but you think they should sit and take it when you do it, or, your most fervent wish, stand in awe of your self-imagined genius and know it all attitude and tell you that you're right. 

Here ya go, found your solution and it requires no treatments.

 

Information from Your Family Doctor

Celiac Disease

Am Fam Physician. 1998 Mar 1;57(5):1039-1042.

See related article on celiac disease.

Your doctor says you have celiac disease. What does that mean to you? It means some good things and some not-so-good things:

  • You can control celiac disease very easily by not eating foods containing glutens.

  • You don't need chemotherapy, radiation or surgery to treat celiac disease, as you might with some other serious diseases.

  • Excellent support groups of people with celiac disease can help you learn how to cope with this illness. The people in these groups can give you emotional support and helpful information about cookbooks and prepared food products.

  • By following the proper diet, you can reverse the damage caused to your body and live a healthy life again.

  • However, you'll have to stay on the gluten-free diet every day for the rest of your life.

  • If you “cheat” on your diet—even if you don't get any symptoms—you'll do further damage to your body. You could get osteoporosis, a neurological illness or even lymphoma (a kind of cancer).

     

    http://www.aafp.org/afp/1998/0301/p1039.html

     

     

    Note this warning:

     

    If you “cheat” on your diet—even if you don't get any symptoms—you'll do further damage to your body. You could get osteoporosis, a neurological illness or even lymphoma (a kind of cancer).

     

    Isn't that kinda like the thing they put on the side of a cigarette package?

Wow Best, your inferiority complex is showing.

 

Who do I love? Lot's of people. Some are Republicans (my friend who lost the local election yesterday is a Republican.) Gbrk is a Republican. So is Skippy. So is Semi. I love all three of them. But you see, THEY don't exaggerate the way you do. THEY don't claim "All Democrats are liars" the way you do. They don't claim that anyone who votes for a Dem is looking for a handout. In short, I can RESPECT them even though I disagree with them, because they speak sensibly.

 

Who else do I love? Some Christians, some atheists, and some agnostics. The atheists I love are sensible too. These people don't "have it in" for the church. They don't want to see Christianity brought down or done away with. They are happy in their unbelief, and they are happy to see ME happy in my belief. None of them insists that all churches are raking in the dough. They can look around and see that many small churches are struggling to keep their doors open. Once again, these people are realistic.

 

Isn't it funny that I can disagree with these SENSIBLE people without acting like "a rabid looney rat"? Could it be that when *I* am confronted with a rabid looney rat, I react in kind? Could it be that I am reflecting YOUR behavior, and you don't like what you see?

 

Now, get yourself some rest, try to stop worrying about what other people think, and maybe you'll feel better in the morning.  

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Here ya go, found your solution and it requires no treatments.

 

Information from Your Family Doctor

Celiac Disease

Am Fam Physician. 1998 Mar 1;57(5):1039-1042.

See related article on celiac disease.

Your doctor says you have celiac disease. What does that mean to you? It means some good things and some not-so-good things:

  • You can control celiac disease very easily by not eating foods containing glutens.

  • You don't need chemotherapy, radiation or surgery to treat celiac disease, as you might with some other serious diseases.

  • Excellent support groups of people with celiac disease can help you learn how to cope with this illness. The people in these groups can give you emotional support and helpful information about cookbooks and prepared food products.

  • By following the proper diet, you can reverse the damage caused to your body and live a healthy life again.

  • However, you'll have to stay on the gluten-free diet every day for the rest of your life.

  • If you “cheat” on your diet—even if you don't get any symptoms—you'll do further damage to your body. You could get osteoporosis, a neurological illness or even lymphoma (a kind of cancer).

     

    http://www.aafp.org/afp/1998/0301/p1039.html

     

     

    Note this warning:

     

    If you “cheat” on your diet—even if you don't get any symptoms—you'll do further damage to your body. You could get osteoporosis, a neurological illness or even lymphoma (a kind of cancer).

     

    Isn't that kinda like the thing they put on the side of a cigarette package?

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  • Yep, and if you're one of the people whose symptoms are not obvious, you can have it for years before being diagnosed. And when it goes for years, you DO get these complications. And if you want to make fun of the neurological problems, the thydroid problems, the Rheumatoid arthritis problems, and the very real potential for cancer that I live with, well, go ahead. After all, I am a Christian Democrat, I deserve all of this pain and maybe if you're lucky, it'll kill me soon.

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Yep, and if you're one of the people whose symptoms are not obvious, you can have it for years before being diagnosed. And when it goes for years, you DO get these complications. And if you want to make fun of the neurological problems, the thydroid problems, the Rheumatoid arthritis problems, and the very real potential for cancer that I live with, well, go ahead. After all, I am a Christian Democrat, I deserve all of this pain and maybe if you're lucky, it'll kill me soon.



Care to show me where I made fun? What's it to me how long you choose to live? You are not even a blip in my world.

You know ono, I'm going to tell you a story. I don't give a good **** if you believe it or not, your choice. This weekend was h***. Last year we helped a family at christmas. Young couple with two kids, he's been laid off for two years now. We've stayed in touch, helping out as we can. Sat they let us take the kids shopping. The boy, 13, is as thin as a rail, but he says they have food. The little girl is about average size. When they got here  they were both wearing shoes with holes in them. Pretty worn out because they're kids and kids wear out their shoes, and these kids don't have other pairs to swap out.

 

The little girl wouldn't even look at clothes because she thought for some reason that we were only buying for her. When she saw it was for both of them she kinda got into it and let me buy her some shoes, a sweater, and a dress, and we got them socks. That was it. She wouldn't take another thing. The boy let us buy him two pair of boots. We tried to buy him a jacket and he wouldn't do it because it cost $40.00. We took them to lunch, and then came back to the house because we couldn't talk them into any more shopping. They were nervous and we could tell they wanted to go home. Finally the little girl told me that they were afraid we were going to take them away from their parents because her cousin had told her that when you're poor they take you and give you to people that can take care of you. I finally convinced her that would never happen, that was NOT what we were doing.

 

After they left I cried until I threw up and had a headache from hell. I haven't had one minute since the weekend that I haven't thought of those kids. I have food all over the counters for the upcoming holidays, things to make cakes out of, etc. The little girl kept saying, you have so much foooooood. I ask her if they had food and she said yes but not like this!!! We loaded them down with food (treats) before they left, and I heard the little boy tell his dad, "he tried to buy me a jacket that cost $40.00 but I told him nooooooooo, that's too much money. Now, like my husband and I both know, we have them to worry about because we're not going to let them want for the basic things.  So, you will just have to excuse me if I'm not in the mood for BS this week, or in the mood to rejoice because some hooker can get free condoms, or some third generation welfare trash has their housing, free phones, and all the other goodies waiting on them after they get finished running the roads.  I have other things to worry about. So just find someone else to fight with, I'm not in the mood.

Originally Posted by O No!:

So what are you going to do, Best, bank all of your money offsh ore? Move to another country? Doctor your books and hide your money under a mattress? 

 

If anyone has a "festering hatred" for anyone it is you. You hate the churches, you hate the poor, the old, and the disabled, you hate Democrats who make up more than half of this country, and it is quite obvious by now that you hate the truth.  

No republican or conservative I know hates the poor etc.  they hate being robbed of their hard earned money.   I mean exactly how much is enough?  90k last year I think that is quite enough and that is before any local taxes or fees.   How about a mandate to check the welfare and disability rolls to see if some do not deserve their check and how many illegals are on them before raising taxes.  Once again how much is enough?  really over 1/3 of someones income?

Exactly hiflyer. I was outside a store talking to a friend on the phone, right in the middle of telling him about that family, when three illegals, yes we know they're illegal, we know who they work for, went into the store, and  I stopped what I was saying about the kids and told my friend, "and here comes three of ****** *****'s illegals right now. You can bet their kids are well dressed and well fed and aren't wearing shoes with holes in them. He was upset because I was so upset. I'm just fed up to the gills with all this sideways crap. 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You know ono, I'm going to tell you a story. I don't give a good **** if you believe it or not, your choice. This weekend was h***. Last year we helped a family at christmas. Young couple with two kids, he's been laid off for two years now. We've stayed in touch, helping out as we can. Sat they let us take the kids shopping. The boy, 13, is as thin as a rail, but he says they have food. The little girl is about average size. When they got here  they were both wearing shoes with holes in them. Pretty worn out because they're kids and kids wear out their shoes, and these kids don't have other pairs to swap out.

 

The little girl wouldn't even look at clothes because she thought for some reason that we were only buying for her. When she saw it was for both of them she kinda got into it and let me buy her some shoes, a sweater, and a dress, and we got them socks. That was it. She wouldn't take another thing. The boy let us buy him two pair of boots. We tried to buy him a jacket and he wouldn't do it because it cost $40.00. We took them to lunch, and then came back to the house because we couldn't talk them into any more shopping. They were nervous and we could tell they wanted to go home. Finally the little girl told me that they were afraid we were going to take them away from their parents because her cousin had told her that when you're poor they take you and give you to people that can take care of you. I finally convinced her that would never happen, that was NOT what we were doing.

 

After they left I cried until I threw up and had a headache from hell. I haven't had one minute since the weekend that I haven't thought of those kids. I have food all over the counters for the upcoming holidays, things to make cakes out of, etc. The little girl kept saying, you have so much foooooood. I ask her if they had food and she said yes but not like this!!! We loaded them down with food (treats) before they left, and I heard the little boy tell his dad, "he tried to buy me a jacket that cost $40.00 but I told him nooooooooo, that's too much money. Now, like my husband and I both know, we have them to worry about because we're not going to let them want for the basic things.  So, you will just have to excuse me if I'm not in the mood for BS this week, or in the mood to rejoice because some hooker can get free condoms, or some third generation welfare trash has their housing, free phones, and all the other goodies waiting on them after they get finished running the roads.  I have other things to worry about. So just find someone else to fight with, I'm not in the mood.

May I applaud your behavior. Too many people have to be 'categorized' for the world to accept them.

As an agnostic to an atheist, that is the best 'Christian' attitude I have ever seen.

 

Peace.

Originally Posted by O No!:

Business is doing fine, Tey. But you are starting to sound like that guy I spoke of earlier who won't come into my shop anymore because I said I was happy that Obama won.  You and a few others here can't seem to see how "out there" you sound, claiming that anyone who voted for Obama is a welfare scammer. You need to calm down, and maybe stop thinking about politics for a while until you can look at things realistically. Because right now you are shooting from the hip and, quite frankly, making a fool of yourself. I say that with all due respect because I have enjoyed some of our previous debates. But really, I think your temper is getting the best of you right now and you are saying things that make you look like one of the tin-foil hat crowd.


O no, just where is your shop so I can make sure I don't contribute to your financial well being.

I've talked to the mom. I was worried because the kids had been so nervous and all, well, mostly the little girl, and told her what the cousin had told the little girl. She had no idea that had happened and said she'd talk to her and explain that nothing like that was ever going to happen.  Her mom said she seemed fine, said she had a good time and yes, would come back over here. I promised her we'd bake a cake and I'd bake a little one for her and I'd decorate the big one and show her how to do it so she could decorate her little one along with me. 

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