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Have you seen the commercial on television that's completely in Spanish for the US Army recruits? I was watching Letterman the other night and this commercial comes on. It seemed like this commercial was ten times as loud, I thought something was terribly wrong with my television. It's bad enough that it's plastered all over shampoo, toothpaste, and other American household items.

I would have liked the commercial had it said, "Español estúpido que habla ilegal, vuelve a su país." Or to the likes of that.
Why don't all of you that is so incensed about this commercial move to North Carolina and join the Klan to protest it?
IF!! you had served in the military you would know that there have been non-English speaking people serving for years. When I was in the Navy we had Philippians and other Hispanic speaking guys. I always figured they bled for their country when shot just like I would have. Remember, only legal immigrants can join the military.
It's not illegal immigrants thats the problem, it 's the illegal war.
I would assume anyone who is willing to give their life for the U.S. and its citizens would be granted citizenship much easier and quicker. I have never served in the military so I can't speak for someone and how they would feel about someone next to them not speaking English. However, I don't have a problem with the immediate citizenship being granted when they are willing to die for this country.
This comes from a guy who tried to re-name Nashville's Christmas tree a "Holiday" tree. That's just one of a few reason's I'm not a big fan of his, thankfully I don't live inside metro limits. Of course, he's getting praise from West End and criticisms from everywhere else. He basically said that there doesn't need to be a law to make the official language of the city the official language. I can see what he's saying, but without some kind of measure that ensures that street signs, public notices, and other city business is conduced in a single common language, quite a bit of tax money will be wasted trying to make the city bilingual when there is no need for it.
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You totally missed my point, Pitboss.

The military issue is not the point I was making in mentioning the Spanish speaking commercial on national television. Regardless of race, creed or religion, all American soldiers have my support and utmost respect.

My point is this: My sister attends church in Franklin County. Over half of her class members are current teachers in the Russellville school systems. They have shared in class that their English-speaking students were falling behind because it took so long to educate the Spanish-speaking children. More likely than not, there is illegal citizenship in all aspects of that situation. When I go shopping at our local grocery stores, I'll see a tiny trinket of a car pull up with a 33/Franklin tag and it's like a skit from a circus of send in the clowns. Ten people will get out of those little cars and you have to wonder how many have a green card.

There are all forms of nationalities and cultures. As far as I know, they are not pushing their languages. The Constitution of the United States was written in English, not Spanish!

No thanks for the Klan membership. The only thing I would join is a million man march to rid America of illegal immigrants.
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Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Mayor Bill Purcell vetoed a measure Monday that would have made English the official language of Nashville, saying it was unconstitutional, unnecessary and mean-spirited.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070213/ap_on_re_us/english_only_nashville_5


There hsas been at least one posthumous grant of full citizenship to a Soldier serving in Iraq. He was burried in Merced, California, with full milirtary honors, and with full citizenship.

THE MILITARY IS HAVING ENOUGH TROUBLE RECRUITING Without being stopped from taking foreign nationals into the ranks. We have always allowed foreign nationals to serve, and In 1961 I served with a German National who was drafted the as soon as he applied for permanent residency.

THIS IS ANOTHER NON ISSUE, RAISED TO FEED THE INSULAR AND CLOSED MIND THAT IS SO COMMON IN THE U.S.A.
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Originally posted by that smart chick:
hmmmm... putting people who think that American commercials should be in English in with the Klan???? That is a bit over the top.


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Frankly, most of this rhetoric is over the top. Simply put, what might be a legitimate concern over vaarious implications of illegal immigrants in our nation quickly spirals downward into racism.

Of course, I'm a Native American. My ancestors really should have worked on and improved their immigration policy so that I wouldn't be having to worry about how European illegals are affecting my country now. Wink
All who join the military that do not speak English as a primary language MUST have more than basic knowledge of the English language. Those that have trouble with it must attend English as a second language class.

It is a matter of safety that English MUST be understood well by those in the military. If you call on the radio, and you are under attack, if the radio operator on the other line in the Division HQ doesn't understand you, people will die...simple as that.

It is also against the regs to communicate in any other language while on official duties. It must be English. And yes, I have used that reg on soldiers before. Exceptions, of course, exist (i.e. Special Forces for example, LNO's talking to say Iraqi army, etc). Mainly, this is a garrison reg.

It is just a matter of common sense and safety. You can't have command and control if subordinates and the leadership can't speak the same language.
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Originally posted by NashBama:
I can see what he's saying, but without some kind of measure that ensures that street signs, public notices, and other city business is conduced in a single common language, quite a bit of tax money will be wasted trying to make the city bilingual when there is no need for it.


I'm glad that other countries don't believe that there shouldn't be bilingual street signs. It should would make it hard on us English speaking folks when we visit Germany, Spain and other countries that do offer bilingual signs.
Nashville is a convention destination, with world trade the way it is there are sure to be foreigners in town trying to navigate around town. You can't be a city of the world without accommodating world citizens. So in essence bilingual signs, etc. help put dollars in the economy.
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Originally posted by just saying:
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You totally missed my point, Pitboss.

The military issue is not the point I was making in mentioning the Spanish speaking commercial on national television. Regardless of race, creed or religion, all American soldiers have my support and utmost respect.

My point is this: My sister attends church in Franklin County. Over half of her class members are current teachers in the Russellville school systems. They have shared in class that their English-speaking students were falling behind because it took so long to educate the Spanish-speaking children. More likely than not, there is illegal citizenship in all aspects of that situation. When I go shopping at our local grocery stores, I'll see a tiny trinket of a car pull up with a 33/Franklin tag and it's like a skit from a circus of send in the clowns. Ten people will get out of those little cars and you have to wonder how many have a green card.

There are all forms of nationalities and cultures. As far as I know, they are not pushing their languages. The Constitution of the United States was written in English, not Spanish!

No thanks for the Klan membership. The only thing I would join is a million man march to rid America of illegal immigrants.


No I didn't miss you point, what I was inferring was that to reach segments of the population whose primary language is Spanish they do commercial in Spanish. I can't see any harm in doing that.
As to the situation in Rusellville can't really speak to that since I'm not familiar with it. My own feeling is that the immigrants whether legal or illegal are filling a niche that our own people won't fill.
The comment on the klan was a joke about the article that appeared in this mornings TD about the resurgence of the klan in North Carolina and other locations.
The immigration issue is complex and is not going to be fixed anytime soon. Mainly because it is a minor problem compared to the problems caused by the illegal war in Iraq sucking all the money down the tubes.
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I'm glad that other countries don't believe that there shouldn't be bilingual street signs. It should would make it hard on us English speaking folks when we visit Germany, Spain and other countries that do offer bilingual signs.
Nashville is a convention destination, with world trade the way it is there are sure to be foreigners in town trying to navigate around town. You can't be a city of the world without accommodating world citizens. So in essence bilingual signs, etc. help put dollars in the economy.


Illegals aren't visiting, they're staying. Signs in Europe and other countries are written in English because English is the international language of business. There aren't a lot of foreign visitors trying to navigate their way through town, that's what taxi drivers are for. If someone is here illegally and can't read the signs, then they shouldn't be here in the first place. Bilingual signs do not put money in the economy no matter how you look at it.

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