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Thanks Bill...and thanks again to the other responses. As I have learned that what I see in others I can find in myself. As I said in my first response, reading the responses to the original post, I saw in everyone of them what God was showing me, in me, that needed to be nailed to the cross. I am the only one I can do anything about and only in a good way by tuning into and working with God. He is faithful and patient and I am so grateful for that because I have gone around my own mountain(s), I have placed blame, judged, pointed out others wrongs...before I understood that I need to find them in me and give them up to god to be replaced with "who and what He Created me to be" Vs. being stuck in "who and what I became in and of this world", self righteousness, thinking I have it figured out and under control. He will never be finished with us in this life time, showing more of ourselves...! I appreciate any and all prayers as I will be praying for all y'all too - God bless !!!

Originally Posted by INVICTUS:

Dove, what do you think is in the billie bucket?

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Well Vic, in Asia they are commonly called honey buckets and they are used to dispose of night soil... So I would guess that that is what is in Billie's buckets... After all, isn't that he is all about? 

 

 

Hi Eagletree,

 

Amen to that!  Like you, I wandered in the wilderness for a very long time.  I was born and grew up in the Shoals, i.e., Tuscumbia, Sheffield, Muscle Shoals -- and that being the Bible Belt, you would think that it would have rubbed off on me.  But, I ran from God until I was fifty years old.

 

Yet, I can look back and see where He worked in my life, keeping me, and watching over me -- for He knew in His omniscience that I would become a believer.  And, at the age of fifty, with my wife praying for me for ten years, I met a pastor who, through his Godly love, led me to the Lord. 

 

In that first fifty years of my life, I made just about every mistake a human can make.  I was a very unlikely candidate for becoming a Christian believer -- but, God put the right people in my life -- and, praise God, I have been a believer since 1987.

 

This year, I celebrated my 26-36-76 Year.    I have been a born-again believer for 26 years!  I recenlty celebrated my 36th Wedding Anniversary with my young bride!   And, I am 76 years young!   Praise God for all those blessings -- and for all that I know He still has in store for me -- including the "eternal security" of knowing that I WILL spend eternity in His presence.

 

With all the blessings He has given me -- I feel bad for my Friends who do not have a saving relationship with Him -- or who are saved, but, do not believe they have His promise of "eternal life" in His presence. 

 

The first wander in the world not realizing, or not admitting, that they are walking daily toward an eternal life without God, hell.

 

 

And, the latter, saved -- but refusing to believe they have eternal life in Him. 

 

Thank you, my Friend, for reminding me of my many blessings.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by Dove of Peace:

Well Vic, in Asia they are commonly called honey buckets and they are used to dispose of night soil... So I would guess that that is what is in Billie's buckets... After all, isn't that he is all about?

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Yep! Billy needed another cheerleader so he invents another one. I guess Billy see's himself as an eagle in a tree, with wings spread wide....hence the name Eagletree.

Wonder where his other 3 cheerleaders went?

 

 

Hi Bill,
I too thank God and point to Him if what I say/said reached you in any way. Fellowship is what we need to learn and grow, and to be reminded of things. As well as seeimg that God is in and throigh us and uses us.
I can look nack and see Gods Hand on my lifey whole life. I couldnt see it then...looking back is when we see His Work. We wont know what He is takimg us through until He gets us through it. Althoigh when we are tuned in and workim with Hm He lets us know He is there while we go through it. It builds.our faith, character and strength and trust.
It's about Jesus and Hm Crucified...not what I do or did but what He has Done, once for all (we need to believe,  choose Him and His Ways, submit and surrender ( a process ), and walk with Him out of who and what we became in and of this fallen world. Thats identifying what is fithy rags to God and giving that up to Him and letting Him change is.
We cant do that thinking that any one place He has us is where its at, thinking I/we have it and anuthimg that goes against that os wrong...I am right...and then critisize others. There are a lotbof critical sporits in here I beloeve and will be praying for as I pray amd ask God to help me with mine. And to help me live to glorify and honor Him...to be a good example and to strive daily to become more like Jesus.
I cant do that without Him. I cant do that in/with wrong thinking and a hateful think I know it all and have a closed mind/heart. we have a natural mind/heart and if saved a spiritual mind/heart. The one that grows is the one thats fed bit not fooled.by satans trickery. God bless
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

 Wow! Ole Billy boy laying it on thick! Almost makes me want to take ole Billy off block to see what he's saying in reply to himself. Notice I said Almost.

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That is why he created this new echo... Too many of us have him on block... Just last week he tried to reply to a several month old question from HOD... She did't bite...

Hi all,

 

No, my Friends, Eagletree is not a rehashed version of any preexisting Forum member -- but, is actually a very new member.  He found the TimesDaily Religion Forum when he did a Google search looking for info on what the Bible says about the Natural Man, the Carnal Man, and the Spiritual Man.   In that search, he found my post from 2011 -- and that brought him to our Shoals Forum Family.   Actually, he lives in a different part of our beautiful Christian nation.

 

That is the beauty of writing articles with content, instead of just short "spitting contest" jabs and insults.  Those with content can be found by folks searching for true answers and brought into our little world called the Religion Forum.

 

How do I know all this about Eagletree?  Since he found us in the Religion Forum, he and I have been messaging one another on Facebook.  This is a message from our dialogue last night:

 

So, if you and I agree on anything on the Forum, he, and about a half dozen other forum members, the Cabal, will caste written words to castrate you.

But, as I said, I look past that small handful of dissenters whom I call the Cabal -- and look toward all those who may be there just reading. Let me give you a current example: I just went to the forum and got this statistic for right now: Current Visitors: 100 (Members: 2, Guests: 98).

This tells me that while there are only 2 forum members actively on right now -- there are 98 visitors, guests, there reading -- right now. That 98 is my target audience; they are the ones for whom I write.

And, you are a wonderful example of reaching people.  In July 2011, I wrote and posted the article titled "Natural Man, Carnal Man, Spiritual Man - Which Are You?" -- and here, in September 2013, you find that article in a search for info on the natural, carnal, and spiritual man.

 

God is awesome -- for through that search you and I are now connected Christian Friends. That is the reason I write every day, even when I feel discouraged by the constant badgering of the Forum Cabal.  Praise God!  Thank you, my Friend, and God bless, Bill

 

And, that, my Forum Friends, is the power of the written word when used constructively.   Used as a weapon to attack -- it only digs your hole deeper.  Food for thought!

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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quote:  Originally Posted by INVICTUS:

I haven't seen EagleBeak in a while.

Vic, my Friend,

 

Eagletree has just found and joined the TimesDaily Religion Forum -- and already you are denigrating his posting name.    You really know how to make a person feel welcome.

 

My Friend, you are REALLY a class act!   NOT!

 

How does one get to be so full of hatred as you seem to be?

 

You, my Friend, really, really need to have your priest sprinkle some holy water on you -- about a bathtub full of it!

 

Bless you little hate-filled heart!

 

Bill

Hmmm! My third time or so posting/responding and what I have seen in my short time in here is a crying shame, but, thats what the world without Jesus is! Because He took it all on Himself to redeem the fallen people in this fallen world!!! It's sad to see so many who don't see what He did and hear His call and choose Him and eternal life. Life is eternal and we choose in this phase of eternity where we will spend it. The alternative to Heaven isn't going to be what a lot of people think...a party with their fallen friends. It's going them, alone in the dark, hot and begging for a drop of water in the worst thing/way they can think of in this life to happen to them x 1000 - every second 24/7, for eternity. I know I am not going there so there isn't much anyone can say or do, be nasty, disgusting, mean and hateful, it doesn't stack up compared to God Loving me and me knowing I am spending eternity with Him, living the way He initially intended. I can only pray for these lost and all lost souls, confused, lonely and angry people that can't find anything better to do than bash people.

I was brought to this site/forum by God, by reaching out to learn more about me and my walk with Him and where He was showing me I need change and to learn. He has, as He does when we get closer to Him, been showing me more of myself...that isn't lined up with Him properly. That old me that needs to be identified and let go to Him. It was the natural man, carnal man, spiritual man I came to learn about and in doing that, through a handful of regulars in here, I saw in you what He has been showing me in me, "myself", and it has been confirmation to and for me that I am on the right track. So thanks again! You are all in my prayers, as are many others. Including brothers and sister in the Lord, the hurting and the lost, daily I pray - God Bless!

Thanks again Bill. It's awesome to have another brother and sister in the Lord as new friends and family. Fellowship is a must!! Learning and growing and letting go and and letting God. That last part is a process in learning as well. It does get easier the more I get to know and trust Him and realize He engineers and allows all things, has everything under control and predestined, and, helps us to identify what needs to be let go of, so He can replace it with what He first intended for each of us from the time of creation and before. As long as we choose Him and walk with Him...! I have been learning a lot lately about me, my wrong thinking and understanding. Some from wrong teachings, but, some from me misconceiving things I have learned...an awesome journey it is ! Talk soon Bill, I have been busy getting ready for winter months/catching up on errands. I will have more time soon! God Bless all and have a wonderful night.

Eagletree

 

Originally Posted by Eagletree:

Hmmm! My third time or so posting/responding and what I have seen in my short time in here is a crying shame, but, thats what the world without Jesus is! Because He took it all on Himself to. <Much self serving drivel in praise of Billie aka Eagletree snipped n the interest of sanity> 

 God Bless all and have a wonderful night.

Eagletree

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Blocked for same reason as puppet master...

 

 

 

Hi all,

 

When I was a young boy living in Sheffield, my brother and I were home alone one evening and in bed.  We heard someone opening a window to come into our home -- and, frightened, my brother and I took the almost universal defense approach of all young kids -- we pulled the blanket over our heads!

 

And, that seems to be the universal approach of most atheists and other non-believers -- pull the "there is no God" blanket over their heads, and keep chanting their mantra, "There is no God!  There is no God!  God is dead!  God is dead!'

 

Yes, I noticed the contradiction in that last paragraph -- denying God, and then declaring God, who does not exist, to be dead!   But, what can you expect from folks who will pull a blanket over their heads in an attempt to hide from God?

 

But, my Friends, God really does exist.  And, one day ALL OF US will stand face-to-face with His Son, Jesus Christ, to answer for all we have done in this life, including blindly denying Him.   You might want to give thought to changing your approach and asking God to adopt you.  At least then, you WILL have eternal security and know that you will have eternal life.   Just a thought!

 

God bless, have a wonderul, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Hi Crusty,

 

My Friend, you have been on the Religion Forum for a number of years -- and thinking back, I cannot recall you ever posting a well thought out, intelligent post.  All I can recall are posts where you mock, denigrate, or in some other way attack the thoughts of another.

 

But, I cannot recall ANY posts, or discussions, from you which offers intelligent thoughts on any subject.

 

I guess that is why, when I think of you -- I can only picture that little kid on the playground who hides behind other kids -- and yells encouragement to those who are bullying another.  

 

When I was in Elementary School at Annapolis/Atlanta Avenue -- we had several kids like you.  One was a pastor's son who would sneak up, hit you in the back -- and run for home as fast as he could run.  I chased that little sneak home many times.

 

And, another was a kid who lived on my block.  Like the preacher's son, he would hit you when your back was turned -- and then run to mommy.  One of my most cherished whippings came one day when he had pulled this stunt and I caught him.  His mommy grabbed me from behind, locking my arms, and this little sneak hit me while she was holding me.  When she let me go, I gave her a big foot in the butt.   Of course, my mom took a switch to me -- but, I smiled all the time.

 

Crusty, my Friend, those kids are my mental image of you.  I sincerely would love to see you actually post a constructive, well thought out post one day.  Or, are you only on the Forums to argue and fight?

 

Bless you heart!

 

Bill

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Bill,

 

Nothing I do is when someone's back is turned.  Just another failed analogy on your part. 

 

If you were to really give it some thought, you would find this statement to be accurate.  "All I can recall are posts where you mock, denigrate, or in some other way attack the thoughts of another Bill Gray and other dangerous, deluded, fundamental wack-jobs."  <<-- That is an accurate statement.

 

As long as you keep posting your ridiculous fundy beliefs, I will be here to ridicule them. Isn't that what you do with the Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Liberal Christians, New Agers, Atheists, and plain old non-believers?

 

This is what I see when I think of you:

 

bill 23 AuntEsther

 

I sincerely would love to see you actually post a constructive, well thought out post one day. 

 

Have another blissed day.

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Hi Crusty,

 

I am not sure which race or ethnic group you belong to, nor do I care.  But, you keep posting Aunt Esther's photo -- and, I will admit -- I do see a lot of similarities between your personality on the Religion Forum -- and the personality of the character she portrayed on Sanford and Son.

 

Coincidence?  You tell me.

 

Bless your inane little heart!

 

Bill

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Crusty,

 

I am not sure which race or ethnic group you belong to, nor do I care.  But, you keep posting Aunt Esther's photo -- and, I will admit -- I do see a lot of similarities between your personality on the Religion Forum -- and the personality of the character she portrayed on Sanford and Son.

 

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If you don't care, why did you mention it?
Otherwise, comprehension fail on your part, as usual.

 

Crusty, my Friend,

 

Trying to have a dialogue with you reminds me of a character I knew when I worked at Ramo Wooldridge (before it became TRW).   He was a ph.d. who worked in the Artificial Intelligence group and was a smart man; but, he had one funny habit -- he talked to the wall!

 

So often we would see him in the bathroom, standing at the urinal, talking as he stared at the wall.  But, this was BEFORE the days of the cell phone, etc. -- so, I know he was not talking on a hidden cell phone. 

 

And, you seem to be like him -- talking to someone that only you can see.   And, you make just about as much sense as that invisible someone to whom you are talking.

 

But, I suppose given a choice between your simple, inane comments -- or you "Johnny One Note" numbers -- I guess we will just have to be patient with you and learn to tolerate your funny habits.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Crusty, my Friend,

 

Trying to have a dialogue with you reminds me of a character I knew when I worked at Ramo Wooldridge (before it became TRW).   He was a ph.d. who worked in the Artificial Intelligence group and was a smart man; but, he had one funny habit -- he talked to the wall!

 

So often we would see him in the bathroom, standing at the urinal, talking as he stared at the wall.  But, this was BEFORE the days of the cell phone, etc. -- so, I know he was not talking on a hidden cell phone. 

 

And, you seem to be like him -- talking to someone that only you can see.   And, you make just about as much sense as that invisible someone to whom you are talking.

 

But, I suppose given a choice between your simple, inane comments -- or you "Johnny One Note" numbers -- I guess we will just have to be patient with you and learn to tolerate your funny habits.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

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Thank you, Bill.  I can see why you would think someone as intelligent as your Ph.D. at RW was an oddity.  He far outclassed you in brains.  So, thanks for the compliment. 

 

As for his talking to the wall in the urinal, he was probably saying something like, "Oh God, here comes that idiot, Bill Gray again.  Why does he always follow me into the bathroom?"

 

The rest of your post was typically illogical as usual.  I understand that you aren't too bright, and that reading comprehension isn't your strong point, but I've dumbed down my posts to you about as far as I can go.  Try to keep up.

Originally Posted by CrustyMac:
As for his talking to the wall in the urinal, he was probably saying something like, "Oh God, here comes that idiot, Bill Gray again.  Why does he always follow me into the bathroom?"
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Since Billy Bob has told everyone on this forum about his desire to experiment with the opposite sex, we all know why he followed the poor man to the bathroom.
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by CrustyMac:
As for his talking to the wall in the urinal, he was probably saying something like, "Oh God, here comes that idiot, Bill Gray again.  Why does he always follow me into the bathroom?"
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Since Billy Bob has told everyone on this forum about his desire to experiment with the opposite sex, we all know why he followed the poor man to the bathroom.

opposite sex.....?????..semi, do you mean same sex?????

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by CrustyMac:
As for his talking to the wall in the urinal, he was probably saying something like, "Oh God, here comes that idiot, Bill Gray again.  Why does he always follow me into the bathroom?"
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Since Billy Bob has told everyone on this forum about his desire to experiment with the opposite same sex, we all know why he followed the poor man to the bathroom.

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I wasn't going to go there, but I did notice that he and his other "colleagues" were probably spending too much time in the men's room.  As Bill himself said,  "So often we would see him in the bathroom..."  Creepy.

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Eagletree,

 

Amen to that!  Like you, I wandered in the wilderness for a very long time.  I was born and grew up in the Shoals, i.e., Tuscumbia, Sheffield, Muscle Shoals -- and that being the Bible Belt, you would think that it would have rubbed off on me.  But, I ran from God until I was fifty years old.

 

Yet, I can look back and see where He worked in my life, keeping me, and watching over me -- for He knew in His omniscience that I would become a believer.  And, at the age of fifty, with my wife praying for me for ten years, I met a pastor who, through his Godly love, led me to the Lord. 

 

In that first fifty years of my life, I made just about every mistake a human can make.  I was a very unlikely candidate for becoming a Christian believer -- but, God put the right people in my life -- and, praise God, I have been a believer since 1987.

 

This year, I celebrated my 26-36-76 Year.    I have been a born-again believer for 26 years!  I recenlty celebrated my 36th Wedding Anniversary with my young bride!   And, I am 76 years young!   Praise God for all those blessings -- and for all that I know He still has in store for me -- including the "eternal security" of knowing that I WILL spend eternity in His presence.

 

With all the blessings He has given me -- I feel bad for my Friends who do not have a saving relationship with Him -- or who are saved, but, do not believe they have His promise of "eternal life" in His presence. 

 

The first wander in the world not realizing, or not admitting, that they are walking daily toward an eternal life without God, hell.

 

 

And, the latter, saved -- but refusing to believe they have eternal life in Him. 

 

Thank you, my Friend, for reminding me of my many blessings.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Yup--it was inevitable that the old Calvinist heresy of once-saved-always-saved ("perseverance of the saints) would work its way in here sooner or later.  That and the just-as-prevalent references to the so-called "rapture" will not be long in coming in just about any thread that Bill, the Cafeteria Calvinist,  gets wrapped up in. It's a hobby, folks!

Contendah, my Friend,

 

I am so happy you have the ability to offer a calm, objective view on issues.  Your raving is so refreshing!

 

It has been my experience in life, that when a person always tries to talk louder, to overpower others with volume instead of content -- that is usually indicative of the fact that this person's views have no foundation in fact; so, they make up for that lack of foundation by yelling (symbolically speaking) louder than anyone else.  My Friend, you are a master at that technique!

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Contendah, my Friend,

 

I am so happy you have the ability to offer a calm, objective view on issues.  Your raving is so refreshing!

 

It has been my experience in life, that when a person always tries to talk louder, to overpower others with volume instead of content -- that is usually indicative of the fact that this person's views have no foundation in fact; so, they make up for that lack of foundation by yelling (symbolically speaking) louder than anyone else.  My Friend, you are a master at that technique!

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

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#6 and #9.  This is a good start, Bill.  Copy-and-pasting the same response to two different posts in two different threads is time saving.  But you could have just said "#9", and saved even more time. 

Originally Posted by CrustyMac:
Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Contendah, my Friend,

 

I am so happy you have the ability to offer a calm, objective view on issues.  Your raving is so refreshing!

 

It has been my experience in life, that when a person always tries to talk louder, to overpower others with volume instead of content -- that is usually indicative of the fact that this person's views have no foundation in fact; so, they make up for that lack of foundation by yelling (symbolically speaking) louder than anyone else.  My Friend, you are a master at that technique!

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

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#6 and #9.  This is a good start, Bill.  Copy-and-pasting the same response to two different posts in two different threads is time saving.  But you could have just said "#9", and saved even more time. 

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Bill is a dithering, blithering, scattershot mess who has no sense of polemics.  When backed into a corner, he is helpless, hapless, and hopeless, utterly without the resources to defend his indefensible positions but without the integrity to acknowledge that just maybe he could be wrong sometimes.

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