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And never been attacked for being rich by the lefty hypocrites. Too, why is America the ONLY place you could have accomplished these things? MORE BS from the lefty hypocrites.

Bestworking posted:

And never been attacked for being rich by the lefty hypocrites. Too, why is America the ONLY place you could have accomplished these things? MORE BS from the lefty hypocrites.

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And just when, where, and by whom has Elon Musk been attacked by any "lefty"for being rich ?

Put up or shut up!

"Musk also said the U.S. should reform its tax laws, noting the U.S.’s corporate tax rate – the world’s highest, though many companies employ tax breaks to pay far less than the statutory rate of 35%."

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/c...-immigration-reform/

So, we'll here no more from Condie concerning high business taxes, except reduction!

direstraits posted:

"Musk also said the U.S. should reform its tax laws, noting the U.S.’s corporate tax rate – the world’s highest, though many companies employ tax breaks to pay far less than the statutory rate of 35%."

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/c...-immigration-reform/

So, we'll here no more from Condie concerning high business taxes, except reduction!

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Don't count on it.  Musk's take on taxes takes nothing away from the powerful message shown in my initial post. But you already know that; you were just desperate to post something--anything--negative in your hapless effort to diminish the message. Typical direstraits cheap trick.

Contendahh posted:

direstraits posted:

"Musk also said the U.S. should reform its tax laws, noting the U.S.’s corporate tax rate – the world’s highest, though many companies employ tax breaks to pay far less than the statutory rate of 35%."

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/c...-immigration-reform/

So, we'll here no more from Condie concerning high business taxes, except reduction!

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Don't count on it.  Musk's take on taxes takes nothing away from the powerful message shown in my initial post. But you already know that; you were just desperate to post something--anything--negative in your hapless effort to diminish the message. Typical direstraits cheap trick.

Translating Condie's above statement -- he'll cherry pick what he agrees with and ignore the rest.

Isn't Musk a Canadian? I agree, he could have done what he did in other countries. Canadians are just far Northern Americans IMO. I don't think they do a lot of terrorist attacks and "workplace" beheadings.

direstraits posted:

Contendahh posted:

direstraits posted:

"Musk also said the U.S. should reform its tax laws, noting the U.S.’s corporate tax rate – the world’s highest, though many companies employ tax breaks to pay far less than the statutory rate of 35%."

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/c...-immigration-reform/

So, we'll here no more from Condie concerning high business taxes, except reduction!

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Don't count on it.  Musk's take on taxes takes nothing away from the powerful message shown in my initial post. But you already know that; you were just desperate to post something--anything--negative in your hapless effort to diminish the message. Typical direstraits cheap trick.

Translating Condie's above statement -- he'll cherry pick what he agrees with and ignore the rest.

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Translating direstraits' above statement--"I can't refute what you posted, so I will call it 'cherry picking'and thereby avoid making a sensible and defensible reply.

Dire's silliness has reached new heights with his implicit demand that there must be an in-depth analysis of all levels of Musk's ideology in order for anything to be said about his immigration status.

Even sillier is dire's argument that, having posted on one aspect of the remarkable Mr. Musk's status and accomplishments, I have somehow disqualified myself from making any commentary on high business taxes--which I said nothing about.  In other words, per dire's deranged view of things, because Musk allegedly holds a particular view on the unrelated matter of high business taxes, I must refrain from commenting on that subject on the grounds that I have posted material complimentary of his accomplishments in the numerous enterprises at which he has succeeded. Consummately silly, dire, and further evidence of your desperation!

Contendahh posted:

Bestworking posted:

And never been attacked for being rich by the lefty hypocrites. Too, why is America the ONLY place you could have accomplished these things? MORE BS from the lefty hypocrites.

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And just when, where, and by whom has Elon Musk been attacked by any "lefty"for being rich ?

Put up or shut up!

Why don't you just shut up you frivolous thread making maniac/hypocrite? You support the very ones that attack the rich, but all of a sudden you want to endear yourself to musk. You want us to think he'd get a pass from all the rioting, filthy, business disrupting, thieving criminal pos, that call themselves the 99% and "protestors"? ALL the left does is stir up **** in the attempt to pit people against each other based on race, income, sex, citizens against cops, and anything else they can find to stir the pot and get folks fighting, and YOU tell ME to "put up or shut up"?  Pftttttttttttttttttttttttttttt As the poster said, he is a Canadian and could have done this in many countries. I'll take Canadians over the murdering trash obama is shipping in, and you lefties are supporting, any day!  

What YOU and the other lefties support and you have the nerve to talk about other people being "trash"?

Bestworking posted:

 

What YOU and the other lefties support and you have the nerve to talk about other people being "trash"?

 

Bestworking posted:

Contendahh posted:

Bestworking posted:

And never been attacked for being rich by the lefty hypocrites. Too, why is America the ONLY place you could have accomplished these things? MORE BS from the lefty hypocrites.

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And just when, where, and by whom has Elon Musk been attacked by any "lefty"for being rich ?

Put up or shut up!

Why don't you just shut up you frivolous thread making maniac/hypocrite? You support the very ones that attack the rich, but all of a sudden you want to endear yourself to musk. You want us to think he'd get a pass from all the rioting, filthy, business disrupting, thieving criminal pos, that call themselves the 99% and "protestors"? ALL the left does is stir up **** in the attempt to pit people against each other based on race, income, sex, citizens against cops, and anything else they can find to stir the pot and get folks fighting, and YOU tell ME to "put up or shut up"?  Pftttttttttttttttttttttttttttt As the poster said, he is a Canadian and could have done this in many countries. I'll take Canadians over the murdering trash obama is shipping in, and you lefties are supporting, any day!  

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My! MY! MY!

You really got your panties in a wad over that one! It would take nothing less than the "jaws of life" or perhaps even a low-level nuclear blast to undo that wadding.

Contendahh posted:

Bestworking posted:

 

What YOU and the other lefties support and you have the nerve to talk about other people being "trash"?

 

Bestworking posted:

Contendahh posted:

Bestworking posted:

And never been attacked for being rich by the lefty hypocrites. Too, why is America the ONLY place you could have accomplished these things? MORE BS from the lefty hypocrites.

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And just when, where, and by whom has Elon Musk been attacked by any "lefty"for being rich ?

Put up or shut up!

Why don't you just shut up you frivolous thread making maniac/hypocrite? You support the very ones that attack the rich, but all of a sudden you want to endear yourself to musk. You want us to think he'd get a pass from all the rioting, filthy, business disrupting, thieving criminal pos, that call themselves the 99% and "protestors"? ALL the left does is stir up **** in the attempt to pit people against each other based on race, income, sex, citizens against cops, and anything else they can find to stir the pot and get folks fighting, and YOU tell ME to "put up or shut up"?  Pftttttttttttttttttttttttttttt As the poster said, he is a Canadian and could have done this in many countries. I'll take Canadians over the murdering trash obama is shipping in, and you lefties are supporting, any day!  

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My! MY! MY!

You really got your panties in a wad over that one! It would take nothing less than the "jaws of life" or perhaps even a low-level nuclear blast to undo that wadding.

You wish you could put my panties in a wad, but you just can't pull it off. You're a hypocrite and a joke, nothing more, and hypocritical jokes like you don't upset me. I will call you on your crap every time. If **** like you upset me I wouldn't be here because that is all you lefties are. Now run tell your momma that you got ***** slapped, AGAIN, by a woman.

Beternnun, maybe they can use those "jaws of life" to get your foot out of your mouth.

Bestworking posted:

Contendahh posted:

Bestworking posted:

 

What YOU and the other lefties support and you have the nerve to talk about other people being "trash"?

 

Bestworking posted:

Contendahh posted:

Bestworking posted:

And never been attacked for being rich by the lefty hypocrites. Too, why is America the ONLY place you could have accomplished these things? MORE BS from the lefty hypocrites.

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And just when, where, and by whom has Elon Musk been attacked by any "lefty"for being rich ?

Put up or shut up!

Why don't you just shut up you frivolous thread making maniac/hypocrite? You support the very ones that attack the rich, but all of a sudden you want to endear yourself to musk. You want us to think he'd get a pass from all the rioting, filthy, business disrupting, thieving criminal pos, that call themselves the 99% and "protestors"? ALL the left does is stir up **** in the attempt to pit people against each other based on race, income, sex, citizens against cops, and anything else they can find to stir the pot and get folks fighting, and YOU tell ME to "put up or shut up"?  Pftttttttttttttttttttttttttttt As the poster said, he is a Canadian and could have done this in many countries. I'll take Canadians over the murdering trash obama is shipping in, and you lefties are supporting, any day!  

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My! MY! MY!

You really got your panties in a wad over that one! It would take nothing less than the "jaws of life" or perhaps even a low-level nuclear blast to undo that wadding.

You wish you could put my panties in a wad, but you just can't pull it off. You're a hypocrite and a joke, nothing more, and hypocritical jokes like you don't upset me. I will call you on your crap every time. If **** like you upset me I wouldn't be here because that is all you lefties are. Now run tell your momma that you got ***** slapped, AGAIN, by a woman.

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Got 'em wadded up again, didn't you?  

Contendahh posted:

Bestworking posted:

Contendahh posted:

Bestworking posted:

 

What YOU and the other lefties support and you have the nerve to talk about other people being "trash"?

 

Bestworking posted:

Contendahh posted:

Bestworking posted:

And never been attacked for being rich by the lefty hypocrites. Too, why is America the ONLY place you could have accomplished these things? MORE BS from the lefty hypocrites.

___

And just when, where, and by whom has Elon Musk been attacked by any "lefty"for being rich ?

Put up or shut up!

Why don't you just shut up you frivolous thread making maniac/hypocrite? You support the very ones that attack the rich, but all of a sudden you want to endear yourself to musk. You want us to think he'd get a pass from all the rioting, filthy, business disrupting, thieving criminal pos, that call themselves the 99% and "protestors"? ALL the left does is stir up **** in the attempt to pit people against each other based on race, income, sex, citizens against cops, and anything else they can find to stir the pot and get folks fighting, and YOU tell ME to "put up or shut up"?  Pftttttttttttttttttttttttttttt As the poster said, he is a Canadian and could have done this in many countries. I'll take Canadians over the murdering trash obama is shipping in, and you lefties are supporting, any day!  

___

My! MY! MY!

You really got your panties in a wad over that one! It would take nothing less than the "jaws of life" or perhaps even a low-level nuclear blast to undo that wadding.

You wish you could put my panties in a wad, but you just can't pull it off. You're a hypocrite and a joke, nothing more, and hypocritical jokes like you don't upset me. I will call you on your crap every time. If **** like you upset me I wouldn't be here because that is all you lefties are. Now run tell your momma that you got ***** slapped, AGAIN, by a woman.

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Got 'em wadded up again, didn't you?  

You're an old man, stop whining, it's ugly, and stop obsessing bout my undies, it's sickening. Go stalk your old lady. Perv!

The important point that this incorrect Facebook post makes is the impression given, that a large part of US job-creation is due to foreign talent. Elon probably obtained permanent residency (green card) via H-1B visa sponsorship.

Elon Musk path to US Citizenship: Told by his mother & family.

Elon compares himself with the "Donald Trumps" of the World:

Both want to make America Great Again in their own way of Expertise:

He starts companies. He is a billionaire. He has seen the future and predicates everything he does in the present on the totality of his vision. His genius is ineffable, without precedent or explanation, and yet suffices to explain him. If he succeeds, humanity succeeds; in his striving for himself, he strives for us all.

  All of this is partially true, but it does him the disservice of ignoring what makes him interesting: He is a devourer as well as a creator. He is opportunistic and improvisatory. He is something of a takeover artist; he built Tesla after investing in it and ridding himself of its founders. He shares his superpower not with Tony Stark but rather with Donald Trump — the ability to carry debt. He can be slippery. He is more than occasionally desperate. He has a genius for engineering but perhaps a more powerful one for salesmanship, which is why he always felt himself to be, in his heart of hearts, an American.

Here's and excerpt from Enquire 2011: Very Informative Story & Interesting

Giving you a glimpse into his quest for American Citizenship: I apologize for the lengthiness, the rest was too long.

http://www.esquire.com/news-po...musk-interview-1212/

He was not born in America, and yet when he was a very young man, he gave up everything to become an American. Now he wants Americans to be willing to give up everything in order to reclaim the one essential thing we've lost. He wants to make us once again "a nation of explorers" — but first he has to find out what price we're willing to pay.

He grew up in South Africa without ever really considering himself South African. Like the rest of his family, he was just passing through. The Musks were a race, nearly as much as they were a family, with a specialized awareness of themselves as wanderers and adventurers. Every Musk is able to tell the story of forebears whose accomplishments serve as an inspiration and whose energy endures as an inheritance — a grandfather who won a race from Cape Town to Algiers; a great-grandmother who was the first female chiropractor in Canada; grandparents who were the first to fly from South Africa to Australia in a single-engine plane. "Without sounding patronizing, it does seem that our family is different from other people," says Elon's sister, Tosca Musk. "We risk more."

If the Musks had arisen from literature, they would come off as an unlikely combination of Salinger's Glasses and Faulkner's Snopeses — a combination of insular giftedness and rude commercial energy.

"I have two brilliant children, but Elon's a genius," says his mother, Maye Musk. "I can explain Tosca and [Elon's brother] Kimbal pretty well. I can't explain Elon."

Maye Musk, was a dietitian and a fashion model; her husband, Errol, was an engineer and what a family member described as a "serial entrepreneur." According to Maye, they knew their oldest child was "advanced from the very beginning." He read continually, read not simply to amuse himself but to acquire knowledge, so they sent him to school early in Pretoria. "Elon was the youngest and smallest guy in his school," Maye says, and soon he found himself in conflict not just with other children but with what seemed like South Africa itself.

"It's pretty rough in South Africa," Kimbal Musk says. "It's a rough culture. Imagine rough — well, it's rougher than that. Kids gave Elon a very hard time, and it had a huge impact on his life." Huge, Tosca says, "because there was no recourse. In South Africa, if you're getting bullied, you still have to go to school. You just have to get up in the morning and go. He hated it so much."

It turned out he had two recourses. The first was his family — and his ability to think of himself as a Musk, and therefore as a kind of transcendent citizen rather than as a South African. The second was the advent of the personal computer. "He was on computers as soon as they were available to us," Tosca says. What distinguished him from the legions of other brainy put-upon children who found refuge in the digital universe, however, was his ability to put his digital identity at the service of his familial one. He had not only seen his father start businesses, after all; he had accompanied his father to Zambia, where Errol Musk had an interest in an emerald mine. "They'd go in a plane stocked with chocolate bars, because that's what the customs agents wanted," Kimbal Musk says. "You basically would give them chocolate bars, and they'd allow you to do business."

When he was sixteen, he tried opening a video arcade near his high school with Kimbal, who was a year younger. "We had a lease, we had suppliers, but we were actually stopped," Kimbal says. "We got stopped by the city. We couldn't get a variance. Our parents had no idea. They flipped out when they found out, especially my father."

Errol Musk was South African. He left his wife and his children when Elon was eight — or they fled him — and Elon to this day has what his brother says is "not the greatest relationship" with him. But he'd given them the curious gift of other places, taking them on annual trips intended to give them perspective on where they lived, and then the most curious gift of all: "My father was very strict," Tosca remembers. "So while everybody in South Africa had maids and servants, he'd have us play this game. It was called America, America, and when we played it, we'd have to do everything an American child would do. We'd have to clean the house, mow the lawn, do all sorts of American c****s...."

Elon made his move after he graduated high school. Though he already felt like an American, he'd done research and concluded that it would be easier to obtain American citizenship as a Canadian immigrant rather than as a South African one. His mother was from Canada. Most of her family still lived there. "Elon went to visit my family and he never came back," Maye says. Kimbal and Tosca remained in high school in Pretoria, where they were not like their brother — they were popular. But Elon used to practice hypnosis on them when he was a boy, Tosca says. "He wasn't very good at it. I'd be like, 'No, Elon, I'm not going to eat raw bacon.' But he kept on trying."

Now his beckoning — the exercise of his will — worked. One by one they followed him, first Tosca (who was then fifteen) and Maye, then Kimbal, then even his cousins on his mother's side. He robbed South Africa of all his family members with the exception of his father; as his cousin Lyndon Rive puts it, "They stayed in South Africa one generation, and then they left."

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He handled getting them their citizenship between attending university in Ontario and sleeping on the pullout couch at Maye and Tosca's sublet apartment in Toronto. Then he moved to the U.S. to attend the University of Pennsylvania, and they followed him across that border as well. Ten years ago — ten years after his arrival in the New World — Elon Musk took the oath of American citizenship with thirty-five hundred other immigrants at the Pomona Fairplex, in a ceremony he calls "actually very moving." Tosca is the last of the family still an alien, and as she studies to become an American citizen, she has come to believe in Elon's ability to make her a Martian citizen, too. They all have. They are a family that has formed an unshakable consensus around one of its members. Tosca says, "Elon has already gone to the future and come back to tell us what he's found."

And It’s Not Baltimore- (50 years entrenchment by Democrats Ruling Party)

Contendahh posted:

direstraits posted:

Contendahh posted:

direstraits posted:

"Musk also said the U.S. should reform its tax laws, noting the U.S.’s corporate tax rate – the world’s highest, though many companies employ tax breaks to pay far less than the statutory rate of 35%."

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/c...-immigration-reform/

So, we'll here no more from Condie concerning high business taxes, except reduction!

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Don't count on it.  Musk's take on taxes takes nothing away from the powerful message shown in my initial post. But you already know that; you were just desperate to post something--anything--negative in your hapless effort to diminish the message. Typical direstraits cheap trick.

Translating Condie's above statement -- he'll cherry pick what he agrees with and ignore the rest.

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Translating direstraits' above statement--"I can't refute what you posted, so I will call it 'cherry picking'and thereby avoid making a sensible and defensible reply.

Dire's silliness has reached new heights with his implicit demand that there must be an in-depth analysis of all levels of Musk's ideology in order for anything to be said about his immigration status.

Even sillier is dire's argument that, having posted on one aspect of the remarkable Mr. Musk's status and accomplishments, I have somehow disqualified myself from making any commentary on high business taxes--which I said nothing about.  In other words, per dire's deranged view of things, because Musk allegedly holds a particular view on the unrelated matter of high business taxes, I must refrain from commenting on that subject on the grounds that I have posted material complimentary of his accomplishments in the numerous enterprises at which he has succeeded. Consummately silly, dire, and further evidence of your desperation!

If, Musk had applied for legal immigration, as a Canadian he would most likely be accepted -- free to cross the border with minimum problems.  One success, does not justify allowing millions to enter illegally.  Or, to commit crimes and stay.

direstraits posted:

Contendahh posted:

direstraits posted:

Contendahh posted:

direstraits posted:

"Musk also said the U.S. should reform its tax laws, noting the U.S.’s corporate tax rate – the world’s highest, though many companies employ tax breaks to pay far less than the statutory rate of 35%."

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/c...-immigration-reform/

So, we'll here no more from Condie concerning high business taxes, except reduction!

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Don't count on it.  Musk's take on taxes takes nothing away from the powerful message shown in my initial post. But you already know that; you were just desperate to post something--anything--negative in your hapless effort to diminish the message. Typical direstraits cheap trick.

Translating Condie's above statement -- he'll cherry pick what he agrees with and ignore the rest.

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Translating direstraits' above statement--"I can't refute what you posted, so I will call it 'cherry picking'and thereby avoid making a sensible and defensible reply.

Dire's silliness has reached new heights with his implicit demand that there must be an in-depth analysis of all levels of Musk's ideology in order for anything to be said about his immigration status.

Even sillier is dire's argument that, having posted on one aspect of the remarkable Mr. Musk's status and accomplishments, I have somehow disqualified myself from making any commentary on high business taxes--which I said nothing about.  In other words, per dire's deranged view of things, because Musk allegedly holds a particular view on the unrelated matter of high business taxes, I must refrain from commenting on that subject on the grounds that I have posted material complimentary of his accomplishments in the numerous enterprises at which he has succeeded. Consummately silly, dire, and further evidence of your desperation!

If, Musk had applied for legal immigration, as a Canadian he would most likely be accepted -- free to cross the border with minimum problems.  One success, does not justify allowing millions to enter illegally.  Or, to commit crimes and stay.

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Nice dodge--typical dire deflection, or should we coin a new term for your chronic use of this shabby tactic?  How about  "direflection"?

Nice dodge--typical dire deflection, or should we coin a new term for your chronic use of this shabby tactic?  How about  "direflection"?

How about calling it another beternnun BS thread about nothing? Is musk a muslim like the ones invading countries all over the world? Is he a mexican sneaking across the border? Is he on public support? Is beternnun trying to compare apples to oranges? Yes! Is beternnun the one trying to deflect from the terrible problem of illegals and terrorists swarming into this and other countries? Yes"

Bloomberg may have another political party for you, the limousine liberal party. 

Bestworking posted:

Nice dodge--typical dire deflection, or should we coin a new term for your chronic use of this shabby tactic?  How about  "direflection"?

 

How about calling it another beternnun BS thread about nothing? Is musk a muslim like the ones invading countries all over the world? Is he a mexican sneaking across the border? Is he on public support? Is beternnun trying to compare apples to oranges? Yes! Is beternnun the one trying to deflect from the terrible problem of illegals and terrorists swarming into this and other countries? Yes"

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Is Bestworking an angry, perpetually-agitated harridan with a petrified absolutist mindset?  YYYYEEEESSSS!!!!

Stanky posted:

Bloomberg may have another political party for you, the limousine liberal party. 

Two billionaires and a socialist running -- stockup on the popcorn.