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It was not tactless. It did not violate any of the forum guidelines. If it true it should be news.

I agree with Rowan Oak on both of his statements.


Again, I ask if anyone knows of the oral surgeon over dosing on zanax. His wife is supposedly a pharmacist. He was supposedly in trouble with the law in Nashville for writing suspicious prescriptions for meds.
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Originally posted by that smart chick:
Maybe there wasn't any overdose? Or maybe a person (regardless of profession) taking a few too many pills in the privacy of their bathroom isn't really anyone's business.


A big old "Boo!" to the whole not-anyone's-business stuff. Whether we think it or not, no one's going to buy that. If Bobby Irons were arrested for illegal activity, that junk would be all over the news and we would all be commenting on it. Why? He is in the public eye and provides services for the community (I guess that last part's easy to question). It's the same with a doctor; a public person who provides services.

Now, though I hate to do this, tsc, you're right on the possibility of an erroneous post. If none of the information is true then we could potentially damage a name that doesn't deserve it. Still, the right-wingers wouldn't have a media leg on which to stand if only the truth had to be published.

Now, go ahead and re-type the statement replacing "right-wingers" with "left-wingers." I know it's inevitable.
Who isn't in the public eye? The checker at Wal-Mart is in the public eye. The guy who drives a tanker truck performs a dangerous job and he's in the public eye. The Cook's Pest Control guy is in my house and he's in the public eye. Why is it anyone's business if one of those folks gets getered on some Xanax? Doubt it would have killed them, they probably would have had a long black out and maybe a long bout of vomiting. Is that really exciting?
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Originally posted by Rowan Oak:
Hardly tactless. If you found that offensive then you must despise any form of news. And, if that's the case, why are you on this 'site?

I'm hacked at the morons at TD who removed it. It's amazing what those no-brains will publish themselves when compared with that which they censure and censor.


I simply think we should show some consideration for the family members.

And, trust me, I come here strictly for entertainment—not news.
Hey GoNads have you checked he Obits -- there is a dentist there -- is it your dentist you are so interested in????

FORTUNATELY -- as much as we all like the gore of knowing the dirt -- sometimes it's just best to say "He passed away". Not everything is our business.

Yes, don't pass out I just said that! Smiler My prayers go out to the family regardless -- this doctor and the one you are so interested in.
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FORTUNATELY -- as much as we all like the gore of knowing the dirt -- sometimes it's just best to say "He passed away". Not everything is our business.

Yes, don't pass out I just said that! Smiler My prayers go out to the family regardless -- this doctor and the one you are so interested in.



Amen, Chick!

It appears somebody's thinking with their forum nickname again.
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Originally posted by DixieChik:
Hey GoNads have you checked he Obits -- there is a dentist there -- is it your dentist you are so interested in????

FORTUNATELY -- as much as we all like the gore of knowing the dirt -- sometimes it's just best to say "He passed away". Not everything is our business.

Yes, don't pass out I just said that! Smiler My prayers go out to the family regardless -- this doctor and the one you are so interested in.


Thanks, but that is not the name I was told.The date of death is the same. That is the reason I was asking because I did not know if I was getting the facts or hearsay.
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Originally posted by FatNoMo:
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FORTUNATELY -- as much as we all like the gore of knowing the dirt -- sometimes it's just best to say "He passed away". Not everything is our business.

Yes, don't pass out I just said that! Smiler My prayers go out to the family regardless -- this doctor and the one you are so interested in.



Amen, Chick!

It appears somebody's thinking with their forum nickname again.
Is you avatar trying to lick that forum nickname?

It amazes me that know one was offended when KS asked who committed suicide by jumping off a Wilson Dam. What's the difference?
GoNads -- you and I have agreed on a lot of things on here, but your post was inappropriate. The difference was KS wrote a comment about hearing it from a police officer and just didn't know who it was and what not -- she didn't say the guy "OD'd" and then give details about him that would allow you to single him out (i.e. dentist/wife is a ...) -- She asked it one time and that was it -- if they had removed the post I would dare to say that she would not have posted 2 more threads about the same subject.

You appear to be digging for dirt to talk bad about a man -- if you don't know if you are hearing hearsay -- ask your friend and confirm it with someone PRIVATELY -- not on a public forum. KS had on good word that "someone had jumped" but she didn't attempt to run someone through the mud. She actually commented about feeling sorry for the family if the story was true.

Your tactfulness is the difference. You could have inquired quietly about it without giving as many details as you did. You appeared to be wanting to slam the "doctor" that "od'd" and that was the impression I got, so I'm sure that is the same impression the TD mods got.
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Is you avatar trying to lick that forum nickname?

It amazes me that know one was offended when KS asked who committed suicide by jumping off a Wilson Dam. What's the difference?


Nope. Sticking my tongue out at all the posts with which I disagree . . . And yet, I'm still entertained . . . go figure . . .

Gut feelings on the difference in the two posts: KS asked in a way that showed genuine concern whereas the other appeared accusatory.
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Originally posted by DixieChik:
GoNads -- you and I have agreed on a lot of things on here, but your post was inappropriate. The difference was KS wrote a comment about hearing it from a police officer and just didn't know who it was and what not -- she didn't say the guy "OD'd" and then give details about him that would allow you to single him out (i.e. dentist/wife is a ...) -- She asked it one time and that was it -- if they had removed the post I would dare to say that she would not have posted 2 more threads about the same subject.

You appear to be digging for dirt to talk bad about a man -- if you don't know if you are hearing hearsay -- ask your friend and confirm it with someone PRIVATELY -- not on a public forum. KS had on good word that "someone had jumped" but she didn't attempt to run someone through the mud. She actually commented about feeling sorry for the family if the story was true.

Your tactfulness is the difference. You could have inquired quietly about it without giving as many details as you did. You appeared to be wanting to slam the "doctor" that "od'd" and that was the impression I got, so I'm sure that is the same impression the TD mods got.


No, the difference is that some of you think that jumping from a dam is some how more respectable than overdosing on pills. Because one was a doctor and the other a blue collar guy.

People on the other thread were even bringing up what they speculated the jumpers name was and that he had a family with small children." Oh my gosh how disrespectful."

http://forums.timesdaily.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5521043475/m/6831071926

In my original post I did not give any details only that it was an oral surgeon that may have over dosed on zanzx and what I thought his name might be. I did not add what I was told the wifes occupation was until I had to rewrite the question.
Personally, GoNads, I think suicide is not the answer to anyone's problems whether you are white collar, blue collar or green around the gills. YOu gave "specific" details -- HOw many oral surgeons are there in Florence with a possible Mc name -- that is what you wrote. That was too specific. No one guessed to the jumper's name or even who he was or anything until the facts started coming in from the TD.

You can whine about the TD removing your post if you want, but in this situation -- I agree with them.

Just like with the John Duncan thread that someone else has posted on -- Leave the dead alone -- Have some respect and try to speak well and not spread rumors or facts. Just let them rest in peace.

Whether someone OD'd, was drunk and hit a tree, or was killed in the line of duty -- be respectful of the family and don't try to drag their personal lives into the public forum. That is the only point I was trying to make. Treat them with respect -- living or dead.

If you are wrong about all of our details -- which obviously the TD is not going to report on this situation -- you might wind up like the Nurse at Sheffield thread where she showed up and called people out for talking about her when they didn't even know her -- it was someone's personal vendetta against her -- that is what your post seemed to be -- personal.

Sorry if you were offended by no one wanting to jump in the fray with you on it. I had a person in my life commit suicide, but if you aren't part of my little circle -- you wouldn't know who they were or how they did it. Some things are just better left unsaid.
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Originally posted by FirenzeVeritas:
I know nothing about the situation in question, but I do know the TD reported on the suicide of a local woman about two or three years ago. When questioned about it, they stated the suicide was on public property and therefore newsworthy.


Firenze -- they reported about the jumper from the Dam as well because it happened on Public Property -- someone OD'ing on pills is not going to be newsworthy unless they did it in jail -- which is still public property. Someone that shoots themselves or dies in their garage from carbon monoxide poisoning probably will be news because they will investigate for foul play.
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Originally posted by vick13:
That should be covered by HIPPA. At least until or if he died.


You are correct VICK I think the jail scenario would be covered by HIPAA -- Point is that a person that OD'd but was at home and his wife came home within a few hours of it happening would not make the NEWS because that would be considered a Medical Call -- not Newsworthy in my opinoin. Just someone's personal problems.

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