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Forget the fact that the Government is seeking to modify the rules regarding the Miranda Rights we have enacted, never mind that the Government is seeking to be able to monitor us more closely without warrants but given the fact that Government has already moved into control of the Banking Business and Automobile Industry with takeovers of GM and Chrysler then the move to take over Healthcare with all that goes with it now they are moving toward a takeover of our Food Industry? Well maybe that's not what the article says exactly but surely it can be seen where this could be taken to.

Think about this. IF this was a Republican administration the national media and most print media would be up in arms calling for politicians to step down or for Impeachment. Freedom and Democracy is under attack and it amazes me that so many people fail to see it because they either are blinded by their allegiance to a party platform or base all their decisions upon what is heard through ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, or CBS.

I don't want to be a "Chicken Little" running around yelling that the sky is falling but I do believe that the upcoming mid-term elections are among the most important in our Nations history and most certainly the most important election of our lifetime, here to date.

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Originally posted by gbrk:
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Forget the fact that the Government is seeking to modify the rules regarding the Miranda Rights we have enacted, never mind that the Government is seeking to be able to monitor us more closely without warrants but given the fact that Government has already moved into control of the Banking Business and Automobile Industry with takeovers of GM and Chrysler then the move to take over Healthcare with all that goes with it now they are moving toward a takeover of our Food Industry? Well maybe that's not what the article says exactly but surely it can be seen where this could be taken to.

Think about this. IF this was a Republican administration the national media and most print media would be up in arms calling for politicians to step down or for Impeachment. Freedom and Democracy is under attack and it amazes me that so many people fail to see it because they either are blinded by their allegiance to a party platform or base all their decisions upon what is heard through ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, or CBS.

I don't want to be a "Chicken Little" running around yelling that the sky is falling but I do believe that the upcoming mid-term elections are among the most important in our Nations history and most certainly the most important election of our lifetime, here to date.


Yes, those upcoming elections are important--even critical.

In the last national election, this country wisely said goodbye to the neocon-controlled White House incumbent fumbleton, George W. Bush, without a doubt one of the very worst presidents in this nation's history, and elected a Democratic president who has proven himself to be incompoarably superior to his predecessor. It is important that this nation not lapse back into the condition left by the Bush-Cheney suckups to neocon imperialism.

If the Iraq war had been the only foul-up, the only fraud, perpetrated on this nation by the past maladministration, that alone would be enough to vault those incompetent scheming weasels to an elevated position in the annals of political perfidy!

As to the article you posted a link to, please tell me what is wrong with Michele Obama's or anyone else's efforts to call attention to the national epidemic of childhood obesity? Childhood diabetes is becoming rampant in these hordes of fat little kids. Is it not constitutional ("promote the general welfare") to use the "bully pulpit" and other non-coercive measures to encourage sound nutrition and regular exercise (other than thumbing out text messages and working the controls on video games)for these kids to keep them healthy and well and as a side benefit to help control health care expenses?

Good grief!
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Originally posted by beternU:
Yes, those upcoming elections are important--even critical.

In the last national election, this country wisely said goodbye to the neocon-controlled White House incumbent fumbleton, George W. Bush, without a doubt one of the very worst presidents in this nation's history, and elected a Democratic president who has proven himself to be incompoarably superior to his predecessor.


Any specifics as to how Obama is "incomparably superior" to Bush? Unemployment is higher now. The deficit is MUCH higher now. The overall economy is worse now. The bailouts didn't work (trillions down the drain). He hasn't closed Gitmo and he hasn't pulled out of Iraq or Afghanistan. All I see are broken promises and a worsening economy. All Obama has done is blame Bush and give speeches. That's all. I will give you that he is a better orator than Dubya. Not much doubt on that one.

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It is important that this nation not lapse back into the condition left by the Bush-Cheney suckups to neocon imperialism.

If the Iraq war had been the only foul-up, the only fraud, perpetrated on this nation by the past maladministration, that alone would be enough to vault those incompetent scheming weasels to an elevated position in the annals of political perfidy!

As to the article you posted a link to, please tell me what is wrong with Michele Obama's or anyone else's efforts to call attention to the national epidemic of childhood obesity? Childhood diabetes is becoming rampant in these hordes of fat little kids. Is it not constitutional ("promote the general welfare") to use the "bully pulpit" and other non-coercive measures to encourage sound nutrition and regular exercise (other than thumbing out text messages and working the controls on video games)for these kids to keep them healthy and well and as a side benefit to help control health care expenses?

Good grief!


You didn't address the entire premise of this thread -- the notion that there's a double standard in the press regarding the constitutional rights of potential terrorists. The MSM has been remarkably silent about Obama and Holder's assertion that Miranda rights should be waived under certain circumstances. The new Supreme Court nominee also said the same thing a couple of years ago. They want to extirpate the constitutional rights of those *suspected* of aiding and abetting "terrorists," even without a trial or conviction of such. They even go as far as to suggest we should remove the citizenship of such people. There have been people convicted of treason in the past who didn't even have citizenship revoked.

I think the OP's point is valid -- after all the hand wringing we endured about the PATRIOT Act, NSA spying, and "torture" from the socialist press, you would think these guys would be all over this one. But, nope, not when a socialist is in office.
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I think the OP's point is valid -- after all the hand wringing we endured about the PATRIOT Act, NSA spying, and "torture" from the socialist press, you would think these guys would be all over this one. But, nope, not when a socialist is in office.


You nailed it. All the libs screamed over the Patriot Act, hailed interrogation as torture and couldn't wait to drop those detainees on US soil.
Now that the shoe is on the other foot, so to speak, the libs are discovering WHY all those things were there in the first place.

If a rep does it, it's wrong.
If a lib does it, it's for the good of America.
BS!
Hypocrisy in overdrive!

And yes, we are moving toward socialism while the rest of the world has woke up and is moving away from it.
For years, I've stated the EU socialist welfare state was not a sustainable model. The lefties mocked me. Well, cheap credit hid the large deficits of Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain. Now, they are exposed. The bailout money may buy time, but these nations must change or spiral out of control. The UK is in the same boat. France is strained to her seams and can not expend anymore funds. The EU model is now entering the same phase as the old Soviet breakup and exposure of communism as unsustainable.

And, Obama is advancing this model for the US.
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Originally posted by beternU:
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Originally posted by gbrk:
[URL=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20004653-503544.html]Link to Reference - Click here[/URL

Forget the fact that the Government is seeking to modify the rules regarding the Miranda Rights we have enacted, never mind that the Government is seeking to be able to monitor us more closely without warrants but given the fact that Government has already moved into control of the Banking Business and Automobile Industry with takeovers of GM and Chrysler then the move to take over Healthcare with all that goes with it now they are moving toward a takeover of our Food Industry? Well maybe that's not what the article says exactly but surely it can be seen where this could be taken to.

Think about this. IF this was a Republican administration the national media and most print media would be up in arms calling for politicians to step down or for Impeachment. Freedom and Democracy is under attack and it amazes me that so many people fail to see it because they either are blinded by their allegiance to a party platform or base all their decisions upon what is heard through ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, or CBS.

I don't want to be a "Chicken Little" running around yelling that the sky is falling but I do believe that the upcoming mid-term elections are among the most important in our Nations history and most certainly the most important election of our lifetime, here to date.


Yes, those upcoming elections are important--even critical.

In the last national election, this country wisely said goodbye to the neocon-controlled White House incumbent fumbleton, George W. Bush, without a doubt one of the very worst presidents in this nation's history, and elected a Democratic president who has proven himself to be incompoarably superior to his predecessor. It is important that this nation not lapse back into the condition left by the Bush-Cheney suckups to neocon imperialism.

If the Iraq war had been the only foul-up, the only fraud, perpetrated on this nation by the past maladministration, that alone would be enough to vault those incompetent scheming weasels to an elevated position in the annals of political perfidy!

As to the article you posted a link to, please tell me what is wrong with Michele Obama's or anyone else's efforts to call attention to the national epidemic of childhood obesity? Childhood diabetes is becoming rampant in these hordes of fat little kids. Is it not constitutional ("promote the general welfare") to use the "bully pulpit" and other non-coercive measures to encourage sound nutrition and regular exercise (other than thumbing out text messages and working the controls on video games)for these kids to keep them healthy and well and as a side benefit to help control health care expenses?

Good grief!


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incompoarably


Is that a word?
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Originally posted by marksw59:
Who knows... maybe "Socialism" is too innocuous of a term... how about "authoritarian statism"... much like the China model... with our very own NoKo style "Dear ♡ Leader"... The One®, the only, The Obamessiah™!


Indoctrination beginning with the schoolchilren as seen in that famous video of kids singing the praises of Barak Hussein Obama mmm mmm mmm...
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Originally posted by marksw59:
Who knows... maybe "Socialism" is too innocuous of a term... how about "authoritarian statism"... much like the China model... with our very own NoKo style "Dear ♡ Leader"... The One®, the only, The Obamessiah™!


You are a good one. I believe you are correct, sir. I've long said the new world govt. will be based on the Chinese model of authoritarian communism.
I believe that main protection we have against creating a government that is like that Chinese model or any other whether it be Socialist or a mix of the two is restoration of a Government that conforms to the original document which started it in the first place, conformation with the Constitution and limitations of the powers that document gives to each branch. Today we are far from what the Constitution declared and set forth as what our Government should be.

Is it too hopeful to hope that we, or our next generation, will do just that?
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Originally posted by elinterventor01:
For years, I've stated the EU socialist welfare state was not a sustainable model. The lefties mocked me. Well, cheap credit hid the large deficits of Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain. Now, they are exposed. The bailout money may buy time, but these nations must change or spiral out of control. The UK is in the same boat. France is strained to her seams and can not expend anymore funds. The EU model is now entering the same phase as the old Soviet breakup and exposure of communism as unsustainable.

And, Obama is advancing this model for the US.


We are the biggest contributor to the IMF, so guess who will be paying for this bail out??
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Originally posted by canade:
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Originally posted by marksw59:
Who knows... maybe "Socialism" is too innocuous of a term... how about "authoritarian statism"... much like the China model... with our very own NoKo style "Dear ♡ Leader"... The One®, the only, The Obamessiah™!


Indoctrination beginning with the schoolchilren as seen in that famous video of kids singing the praises of Barak Hussein Obama mmm mmm mmm...



That was chilling....smacks of the Hitler Youth program.

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