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Take away the 1st quarter and the score would be 26-7.

The 1st quarter showed that Auburn had Bama figured out. They scored easily and kept the offense off the field. They also threw every trick they had at Bama in the 1st and had very little left for the rest of the game.

Bama won by adapting to the situation. They changed their game plan. 2nd quarter was exact opposite of the 1st with Bama scoring 14 and Auburn being stopped.

Out of 3 quarters of play, Auburn could only score once while Bama scored 3 TD's and 2 FG's. The score may have been close, but that's only because Bama had to dig them selves out of a hole the whole game. Not an easy feat, but they did it by adapting to the situation.

They'll do the same with the Gators. Don't underestimate Bama because of the Iron Bowl score. I think the Gators are going to be in for a shock.
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Originally posted by NashBama:
Take away the 1st quarter and the score would be 26-7.

The 1st quarter showed that Auburn had Bama figured out. They scored easily and kept the offense off the field. They also threw every trick they had at Bama in the 1st and had very little left for the rest of the game.

Bama won by adapting to the situation. They changed their game plan. 2nd quarter was exact opposite of the 1st with Bama scoring 14 and Auburn being stopped.

Out of 3 quarters of play, Auburn could only score once while Bama scored 3 TD's and 2 FG's. The score may have been close, but that's only because Bama had to dig them selves out of a hole the whole game. Not an easy feat, but they did it by adapting to the situation.

They'll do the same with the Gators. Don't underestimate Bama because of the Iron Bowl score. I think the Gators are going to be in for a shock.


I agree with Nash. Not knocking AU, they put together the best plan they could to keep the game close but, trickery will only get you so far. AU put a great year together considering what was left for Chiznik to work with. Best of luck to them in the future..

For Bama, I think we are goning to win the SECCG and bring back the trophy to our state, where it belongs.
Hello everyone, this is my first post, I hope I can contribute to the discussion.

Auburn used the same stategy that Utah used successfully in last years Sugar Bowl. Hit them hard, hit them fast, hit them with everything you have and most importantly, hit them early. If Auburn could have scored one more time before the Tide recovered, the result would have been the same as the Sugar Bowl. Fortunately Bama was able to regain control of that game. Big huzzah to Auburn for a good game. Better things will be coming.

While I'm at it: Kudos to Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina for sweeping all their ACC opponents. Even average SEC teams can beat their champions.
Bama did to Auburn what they've done to eleven other teams this year...score more points. Now that they have successfully navigated that "bump in the road" (or should I say pothole Big Grin) that is Auburn football, it's on to bigger and better things. All Bama has to do is score more points than the other team the next two games because when they hand out that glass trophy...they don't ask how, they ask how many.

Don't worry Auburn fans, after we take care of Florida... you can roll Toomer's corner while proclaiming you were "that close" to beating the SEC champs. Wink
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Originally posted by NashBama:
Take away the 1st quarter and the score would be 26-7.

The 1st quarter showed that Auburn had Bama figured out. They scored easily and kept the offense off the field. They also threw every trick they had at Bama in the 1st and had very little left for the rest of the game.

Bama won by adapting to the situation. They changed their game plan. 2nd quarter was exact opposite of the 1st with Bama scoring 14 and Auburn being stopped.

Out of 3 quarters of play, Auburn could only score once while Bama scored 3 TD's and 2 FG's. The score may have been close, but that's only because Bama had to dig them selves out of a hole the whole game. Not an easy feat, but they did it by adapting to the situation.

They'll do the same with the Gators. Don't underestimate Bama because of the Iron Bowl score. I think the Gators are going to be in for a shock.


Take away that second quarter and Auburn wins 21-12.... See how that works... AND how STUPID THAT SOUNDS!!???!!! And this talk of "trick plays" by Auburn... The only "trick" was the onside kick. Auburn does not have "trick plays"... they have... PLAYS. That's Malzahn's offense. Reverses are trick plays for Bama, but Auburn runs anywhere from 5 to 10 a game. Double passes are not trick plays for Auburn, just a wild cat play. A hook and go is not a trick play for any team. Auburn took Bama out of their gameplan by hitting them straight in the mouth like they havent been hit all year(Ingram...30 yards). The "dink and dunk" gamewinning drive was not Bama's style. To their credit they executed it against a worn out Auburn d. But don't act like Auburn's dominance on Bama's running game ALL DAY LONG wasn't the reason for the close game. You sound only bitter and/or foolish/fanish to make light of how well Auburn's d did against Bama's running game(just over 70 yards).
Bottom line is, Bama is the deeper and more complete team. But Auburn's defense dominated the most physical offense in the nation physically, and Auburn's offense had more big plays on Bama's defense in one game than they had given up in all their other games combined. Give credit where due and drop the arrogance. The better team won, but the other team showed that the better team aint quite as much better as every one thought.
WAR EAGLE!!
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
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Originally posted by NashBama:
Take away the 1st quarter and the score would be 26-7.

The 1st quarter showed that Auburn had Bama figured out. They scored easily and kept the offense off the field. They also threw every trick they had at Bama in the 1st and had very little left for the rest of the game.

Bama won by adapting to the situation. They changed their game plan. 2nd quarter was exact opposite of the 1st with Bama scoring 14 and Auburn being stopped.

Out of 3 quarters of play, Auburn could only score once while Bama scored 3 TD's and 2 FG's. The score may have been close, but that's only because Bama had to dig them selves out of a hole the whole game. Not an easy feat, but they did it by adapting to the situation.

They'll do the same with the Gators. Don't underestimate Bama because of the Iron Bowl score. I think the Gators are going to be in for a shock.


Take away that second quarter and Auburn wins 21-12.... See how that works... AND how STUPID THAT SOUNDS!!???!!! And this talk of "trick plays" by Auburn... The only "trick" was the onside kick. Auburn does not have "trick plays"... they have... PLAYS. That's Malzahn's offense. Reverses are trick plays for Bama, but Auburn runs anywhere from 5 to 10 a game. Double passes are not trick plays for Auburn, just a wild cat play. A hook and go is not a trick play for any team. Auburn took Bama out of their gameplan by hitting them straight in the mouth like they havent been hit all year(Ingram...30 yards). The "dink and dunk" gamewinning drive was not Bama's style. To their credit they executed it against a worn out Auburn d. But don't act like Auburn's dominance on Bama's running game ALL DAY LONG wasn't the reason for the close game. You sound only bitter and/or foolish/fanish to make light of how well Auburn's d did against Bama's running game(just over 70 yards).
Bottom line is, Bama is the deeper and more complete team. But Auburn's defense dominated the most physical offense in the nation physically, and Auburn's offense had more big plays on Bama's defense in one game than they had given up in all their other games combined. Give credit where due and drop the arrogance. The better team won, but the other team showed that the better team aint quite as much better as every one thought.
WAR EAGLE!!
Good point, it did sound stupid. But what did you expect?
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
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Originally posted by NashBama:
Take away the 1st quarter and the score would be 26-7.

The 1st quarter showed that Auburn had Bama figured out. They scored easily and kept the offense off the field. They also threw every trick they had at Bama in the 1st and had very little left for the rest of the game.

Bama won by adapting to the situation. They changed their game plan. 2nd quarter was exact opposite of the 1st with Bama scoring 14 and Auburn being stopped.

Out of 3 quarters of play, Auburn could only score once while Bama scored 3 TD's and 2 FG's. The score may have been close, but that's only because Bama had to dig them selves out of a hole the whole game. Not an easy feat, but they did it by adapting to the situation.

They'll do the same with the Gators. Don't underestimate Bama because of the Iron Bowl score. I think the Gators are going to be in for a shock.


Take away that second quarter and Auburn wins 21-12.... See how that works... AND how STUPID THAT SOUNDS!!???!!! And this talk of "trick plays" by Auburn... The only "trick" was the onside kick. Auburn does not have "trick plays"... they have... PLAYS. That's Malzahn's offense. Reverses are trick plays for Bama, but Auburn runs anywhere from 5 to 10 a game. Double passes are not trick plays for Auburn, just a wild cat play. A hook and go is not a trick play for any team. Auburn took Bama out of their gameplan by hitting them straight in the mouth like they havent been hit all year(Ingram...30 yards). The "dink and dunk" gamewinning drive was not Bama's style. To their credit they executed it against a worn out Auburn d. But don't act like Auburn's dominance on Bama's running game ALL DAY LONG wasn't the reason for the close game. You sound only bitter and/or foolish/fanish to make light of how well Auburn's d did against Bama's running game(just over 70 yards).
Bottom line is, Bama is the deeper and more complete team. But Auburn's defense dominated the most physical offense in the nation physically, and Auburn's offense had more big plays on Bama's defense in one game than they had given up in all their other games combined. Give credit where due and drop the arrogance. The better team won, but the other team showed that the better team aint quite as much better as every one thought.
WAR EAGLE!!


I was providing perspective to my point which you missed. I said that Auburn had Bama figured out, put them in a hole because they aren't as good at coming back from behind. The 1st quarter proves that statement. I also said that Bama won by adapting. Look at all 4 quarters and that's obvious, dominated in the 1st, fought back the rest of the game.

Auburn's defense did not, I repeat, did not dominate the Tide's offense. If that were true, Auburn would have won. Auburn dominated Ingram which has been Bama's bread & butter, he didn't have a good game at all and it will cost him the Heisman. Once Bama started passing, they started gaining yards and scoring. That's why Saban called a time out in the 4th and changed the final scoring play from a run to a pass.

I'm not bitter, I'm a realist. Yes, Auburn did better than expected. Getting the Tide down 2 TD's that early isn't easy. However, if they were a better team they would have been able to keep a lead. They didn't, it was gone by halftime. Bama did what most "experts" didn't think they could, get a come from behind victory. That's why I'm not worried about Florida, Bama showed adaptability, which is my whole point that you completely missed the first time.

You can talk about yardage, stats, and anything else. If moral victories make you feel better until next year, more power to you. The only stat that really matters is 26-21.

On to the Gators.
We were watching the news on Saturday night, I think, when there was an announcement of a leak from Auburns people. Seems like they have had a special committee set up all year long doing nothing but learning counter-attacks on Alabamas good plays. Sadly, it almost worked, but thankfully, it did not. But it was a smart thing to do, wonder what that cost Auburn, besides the loss?
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Originally posted by NashBama:
I was providing perspective to my point which you missed. I said that Auburn had Bama figured out, put them in a hole because they aren't as good at coming back from behind. The 1st quarter proves that statement. I also said that Bama won by adapting. Look at all 4 quarters and that's obvious, dominated in the 1st, fought back the rest of the game.

Auburn's defense did not, I repeat, did not dominate the Tide's offense. If that were true, Auburn would have won. Auburn dominated Ingram which has been Bama's bread & butter, he didn't have a good game at all and it will cost him the Heisman. Once Bama started passing, they started gaining yards and scoring. That's why Saban called a time out in the 4th and changed the final scoring play from a run to a pass.

I'm not bitter, I'm a realist. Yes, Auburn did better than expected. Getting the Tide down 2 TD's that early isn't easy. However, if they were a better team they would have been able to keep a lead. They didn't, it was gone by halftime. Bama did what most "experts" didn't think they could, get a come from behind victory. That's why I'm not worried about Florida, Bama showed adaptability, which is my whole point that you completely missed the first time.

You can talk about yardage, stats, and anything else. If moral victories make you feel better until next year, more power to you. The only stat that really matters is 26-21.

On to the Gators.


Bama had 291 yards.... 70 of which came on that last drive. And considering that Ingram was a hiesman contender before Auburn smothered him... I'd call that pretty dominating.
I mentioned special teams killed Auburn.... I didn't mention turnovers. Auburn's 2 turnovers were killer. The muffed punts vs Bama's good returns, kicks out of bounds. Todd's bi-polar play in general hurt the Tigers. He missed on several WIDE OPEN recievers in that 2nd quarter, and might as well had walked up to Barron and handed him the ball on that pick. Auburn has been mistake prone all year unfortunately...unforced errors are deadly, especially when trying to pull the upset. Auburn hurt themselves more than Bama hurt them. But that's been the case in all Auburn's close losses.
Auburn started 3 guys in this game that wouldnt be seeing the field if not for injuries. One of which is playing safety when he is a 185lb corner. On Peak's TD catch, it was a busted coverage from Auburn's preseason 4th string safety who is having to play as a backup due to injuries. Yet, despite all that, Auburn's defense did more than enough to win this game. They stepped up to the challenge and busted Bama in the mouth. Funny... so many Bama fans called Auburn a soft, finesse spread team that couldn't win in the SEC... I find it ironic that Bama had to change to a soft, finess, dink and dunk, spread offense to beat Auburn. Wink
WAR EAGLE!!
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
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Originally posted by NashBama:
I was providing perspective to my point which you missed. I said that Auburn had Bama figured out, put them in a hole because they aren't as good at coming back from behind. The 1st quarter proves that statement. I also said that Bama won by adapting. Look at all 4 quarters and that's obvious, dominated in the 1st, fought back the rest of the game.

Auburn's defense did not, I repeat, did not dominate the Tide's offense. If that were true, Auburn would have won. Auburn dominated Ingram which has been Bama's bread & butter, he didn't have a good game at all and it will cost him the Heisman. Once Bama started passing, they started gaining yards and scoring. That's why Saban called a time out in the 4th and changed the final scoring play from a run to a pass.

I'm not bitter, I'm a realist. Yes, Auburn did better than expected. Getting the Tide down 2 TD's that early isn't easy. However, if they were a better team they would have been able to keep a lead. They didn't, it was gone by halftime. Bama did what most "experts" didn't think they could, get a come from behind victory. That's why I'm not worried about Florida, Bama showed adaptability, which is my whole point that you completely missed the first time.

You can talk about yardage, stats, and anything else. If moral victories make you feel better until next year, more power to you. The only stat that really matters is 26-21.

On to the Gators.


Bama had 291 yards.... 70 of which came on that last drive. And considering that Ingram was a hiesman contender before Auburn smothered him... I'd call that pretty dominating.
I mentioned special teams killed Auburn.... I didn't mention turnovers. Auburn's 2 turnovers were killer. The muffed punts vs Bama's good returns, kicks out of bounds. Todd's bi-polar play in general hurt the Tigers. He missed on several WIDE OPEN recievers in that 2nd quarter, and might as well had walked up to Barron and handed him the ball on that pick. Auburn has been mistake prone all year unfortunately...unforced errors are deadly, especially when trying to pull the upset. Auburn hurt themselves more than Bama hurt them. But that's been the case in all Auburn's close losses.
Auburn started 3 guys in this game that wouldnt be seeing the field if not for injuries. One of which is playing safety when he is a 185lb corner. On Peak's TD catch, it was a busted coverage from Auburn's preseason 4th string safety who is having to play as a backup due to injuries. Yet, despite all that, Auburn's defense did more than enough to win this game. They stepped up to the challenge and busted Bama in the mouth. Funny... so many Bama fans called Auburn a soft, finesse spread team that couldn't win in the SEC... I find it ironic that Bama had to change to a soft, finess, dink and dunk, spread offense to beat Auburn. Wink
WAR EAGLE!!


A dominating defense wins.

So according to your post, Auburn played one hell of a game, "busted Bama in the mouth", and they still lost. In other words, Auburn's best just couldn't match up to Bama's worst.

You're kind of killing yourself with your own argument, although I like your optimism. It's good to focus on the positive aspects.
What are you talking about "Auburn's best vs Bama's worst"????
On the flip side, Auburn made many more mental mistakes than Bama.... 2 turnovers to none, 8 penalties called to 4 called on Bama, terrible kicking game, playing with a patchwork defense, and STILL beat up Bama's physical offense. It STILL took a gamewinning drive and score w/ less than 2 mins left, and STILL took more mental errors in clock management by Auburn to help Bama secure the win. I gave Bama credit for executing down the stretch when they had to, but you have given Auburn no credit.... funny that you just keep running on and on trying to discredit Auburn... werent you the one that said something to the effect.... "24-3, Auburn leaves the field embarassed again"?? LMAO!!!
You were completely wrong... just admit it. Either Auburn is a lot better than you thought, or your tide is a lot worse. Which is it?
I've already said several times that Auburn played better than expected. I was close in predicting Bama's score, but Auburn did quite a bit better than I thought they would.

Again, the Tiger's defense simply shut down one aspect of the offense. Actually, not one aspect, but just one guy. Ingram was shut down, but Richardson averaged 3.5 yards a carry and scored a TD. A dominating defense wouldn't have allowed a 70+ yard game winning drive.

Tigers played well, better than expectations. However, they didn't dominate the game, final score reflects that.
Actually it does. Look at Bama's starting field postition all day. They started drives in "scoring position" all day long due to poor kick offs and kick coverage. And also, read closer what I stated... Auburn PHYSICALLY dominated Bama. Bama is known as a physical offense that averages over 200 yards a game rushing... Auburn dominated the line holding them to 73 yards on 35 carries..... that has been domination when Bama does it all year hasnt it?? And don't pat Richardson on the back for that studly 3.5 ypc... Auburn played completely different with him in the gave vs Ingram.
As for the last drive... I think that was a coaching error. Auburn sat back in a soft zone and gave up the "dink and dunk" passes all the way down the field. That plays to McElroy's strength. He struggles mightily with pressure, as proven in this game at times. But with an inexperienced, exhausted patchwork defense, my guess is Roof and Chizik thought the odds were better to play safe there... I don't like that, but this will be the last year Bama faces an Auburn team with only 3 scholly LBs, and a secondary of 3 corners and 1 safety.
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Auburn played completely different with him in the gave vs Ingram.


You just stated my point. They had a plan to stop Ingram, that's as far as their D went. That's why he didn't get any yardage, but they still won the game.

If the Tiger's D was that good, the Tigers would have won. You can look at whatever numbers you want, the one that counts is the final score. The better team won, again.
I already said the better team won, this would've definately been an upset if Auburn won... and I didn't make your point. Auburn did exactly what I stated they needed to. Stack the box and attack. Even when Richardson was in and they backed off a bit... 3.5 ypc vs Auburn isn't that good. I never said Auburn's defense was "that good". Just that on this day they out physicaled Alabama's offense. Auburn's defense has struggled all year. Like I said... this will be the last Iron Bowl that Bama plays an Auburn d with only 3 scholly LBs available, and a secondary with 3 corners and 1 safety. Bama is deeper, that's obvious. But after this game, despite the win, Bama is the team that has to make the x's and o's adjustments to a far greater degree than Auburn. Auburn just couldnt match Bama's depth. Auburn is wrappin up their first year with a new offense(with a very average QB), and one of the most unlucky years with injuries in the history of college football on defense. (4 starters and 4 2nd teamers missed the Iron Bowl due to injuries, all were LBs and DBs) Also, Chizik kicked 4 other guys off the team that were in the mix for serious PT on defense for behavioral issues.
Things wouldve ended much differently, not just in the Iron Bowl, but in several other games if Auburn had a full roster.
That's why I'm so excited about next season. Hide the women and children, Auburn will be an out of control tornado blowin through the SEC next year.

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