Obama Bin Laden?

People can read for themselfs and see what His (Obama's ) Church has to say about being a member there.And a Phone call has been made to verify that Obama is a member of the Church .

http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

So tell me Peace Brother why would we want a man to be President of the USA that has pledge his allegiance to Africa ? Help me to understand this .

Their mission

Mission Statement: What Trinity Is About

Trinity United Church of Christ has been called by God to be a congregation that is not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ and that does not apologize for its African roots! As a congregation of baptized believers, we are called to be agents of liberation not only for the oppressed, but for all of God’s family. We, as a church family, acknowledge, that we will, building on this affirmation of "who we are" and "whose we are," call men, women, boys and girls to the liberating love of Jesus Christ, inviting them to become a part of the church universal, responding to Jesus’ command that we go into all the world and make disciples!

We are called out to be "a chosen people" that pays no attention to socio-economic or educational backgrounds. We are made up of the highly educated and the uneducated. Our congregation is a combination of the haves and the have-nots; the economically disadvantaged, the under-class, the unemployed and the employable.

The fortunate who are among us combine forces with the less fortunate to become agents of change for God who is not pleased with America’s economic mal-distribution!

W.E.B. DuBois indicated that the problem in the 20th century was going to be the problem of the color line. He was absolutely correct. Our job as servants of God is to address that problem and eradicate it in the name of Him who came for the whole world by calling all men, women, boys and girls to Christ.


The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION.
A congregation preaching SALVATION.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.
Click here to read about Dr. Wright’s talking points for Trinity United Church of Christ its Web site and the Black Value System

I don't know for sure whether Obama is a Christian or not as most of you do not. His color is not a factor for me in deciding not to vote for him. It is his muslim upbringing. I want NO part of it running our country.

I don't see anything wrong with that? I don't see where he has to "pledge his allegiance" to Africa, although I do see that the church has a committment to Africa. Sounds nice; I hope they can do some good there.

TNT, do you know where Obama stands on any of the issues, or do you just know what you've read about him in various emails forwards?

You can read more about what is truth and what is lies at snopes.com by clicking on the link below:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/church.asp

And by the way tnt, I never suggested that anyone vote for Barrack Osama Bin Laden! The point of my post is that the Times Daily seems to enjoy printing falsehoods in its paper.

How would you like it if they printed in their paper that you were a fanatic muslim fundamentalist and akin to the real Osama??

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Originally posted by DEENALYNNE:
I don't know for sure whether Obama is a Christian or not as most of you do not. His color is not a factor for me in deciding not to vote for him. It is his muslim upbringing. I want NO part of it running our country.

.... looks like someone else has fallen for the Repugnant's vicious false propaganda.....

What muslim upbringing are you referring to? The one you got in the phoney propaganda email like the one I got today??

People, just because you HEAR something, or you see it on TV, or read it in the venerable Times Daily newspaper, does NOT mean that it is true.

As both Obama's father and step father were nominally muslim, he received about two hours a week of instruction in the muslim religion in third and fourth grade and occasionally, as a child, accompanied his step father to the mosque for prayer, does not make him a muslim in christian eyes.

But, it does make him a muslim in many muslim eyes. His worse danger may be from muslims who consider him an apostate.

It's an anonymous opinion. The Times Daily solicits them because "Letters to the Editor" have fallen off considerably in recent years.

Surely you don't expect any accountability from an anonymously contributed opinion. It's worth exactly what was paid for it.

I have no doubt that the people at the Times Daily knew he was a Christian. Anyone who follows current events would know that. I can't fault the person who said but the TD shouldn't have printed it. If I had made a comment in the "you said it" section regarding my concern for Obama melting as black people are made out of butter it wouldn't have made it into the paper.

I think a lot of this comes from Hillary supporters in the media.

He will NOT get my Vote . Not gonna debate anyone about it ,,I just know how I'll vote ,,Good luck to us all ,This ole world is in a sad shape anyway you look at it .

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Originally posted by Peace Brother:

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Originally posted by DEENALYNNE:
I don't know for sure whether Obama is a Christian or not as most of you do not. His color is not a factor for me in deciding not to vote for him. It is his muslim upbringing. I want NO part of it running our country.

.... looks like someone else has fallen for the Repugnant's vicious false propaganda.....

What muslim upbringing are you referring to? The one you got in the phoney propaganda email like the one I got today??

People, just because you HEAR something, or you see it on TV, or read it in the venerable Times Daily newspaper, does NOT mean that it is true.

He did attend Muslim Schools (AND CATHOLIC SCHOOLS) for 4-5 years during his formative years before moving back to the USA.

THAT is on snopes as being TRUE.

Formative years does indeed help mold a child.

I am not bashing him or his religion, but I want to face the fact head-on that I do NOT want someone who went to a Muslim School for any length of time being Leader of our Country.

That is my opinion, like it or not.

Thank you Kindred !!! My kind of Lady .

I don't know if any of the candidates are ready to be president, but while I was reading this forum about Obama, and checking the links, I came across another article on snopes. It kinda makes you wonder.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp

I Love You Viper !!!!

lol , Thanks for that ,,I had forgot that one ...Geez and Rice ,,let's all stand while we say the Pledge and watch Obama stand there !!!

Obama attended Catholic school during the 3rd and 4th grades. Because his step father was a muslim, Obama's record showed his as a muslim. Christians receive 2 hour a week of christian training and muslims received 2 hours a week of muslim training. Hardly a madrassa indoctrination course of instruction.

I won't vote for him because he's too leftward and still a naif in world affairs.

Here is the straight stuff from Snopes!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

The lying scum of Insight magazine and the Washington Times (a Moonie rag) have propagated gross lies alleging Muslim connection for Obama that NEVER EXISTED. Read the Snopes piece and decide for yourself what is the TRUTH in these matters.

There are still persons who are either malicious and unprincipled, or abject syphilitic drooling fools or who are too brain-addled to think straight who will continue to propagate these lies.

Shame on them and shame on those who unquestioningly read and pass on their drivel and tripe without making any effort to investigate and either verify or de-bunk.

Right on BU.

You guys can't pick and choose which words y'all want to use that snopes has put forth as the truth.

HE DID GO TO MUSLIM AND CATHOLIC SCHOOLS FOR 4-5 YEARS.

Now, believe me, I am sure he is a good family man, but with a clear conscience, I can't cast a vote for ANYONE who has ties with ANY Muslim community, not after 9/11.

Call me what you will, say what you want, but it just is NOT going to happen in my world.

The picture of him tells the tale ...Thats enough for me to see with my own eyes ,,If he cant hold his hand over his heart at our pledge then what kind of President is he goning to make for us the People of America ?

Im with Kindred on this one .

Sorry forgot the link of the picture .

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2007/...ther-will-msm-notice

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Originally posted by tnt5862:
Sorry forgot the link of the picture .

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2007/...ther-will-msm-notice

I have no love for Obama: But the picture of him without his hand over his heart wasn't during the Pledge of Allegiance, it was during the National Anthem.

Same thing in my book .

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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:

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Originally posted by tnt5862:
Sorry forgot the link of the picture .

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2007/...ther-will-msm-notice

I have no love for Obama: But the picture of him without his hand over his heart wasn't during the Pledge of Allegiance, it was during the National Anthem.

Yes! Thank you Sassy for, once again, pointing that out. If you will notice towards the end of the video in this link:

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doesnt_put_hand_over_heart_1022.html

The ONLY ones doing this correctly are Dodd, Edwards, and Biden. They are actually turned around backwards facing the flag! It would appear that Obama, Richardson, and Hillary were put in a bad spot. I don't care if you don't want to vote for Obama. But don't not vote for him for this stupid blown way out of proportion incident. I'm an Edwards man myself. And he was doing it right!

Well My reason for NOT voting from him will have nothing to do with that w-z . And I wont even begin to say on here why Im not voting for him ok . Leave it at that .

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Originally posted by tnt5862:
Well My reason for NOT voting from him will have nothing to do with that w-z . And I wont even begin to say on here why Im not voting for him ok . Leave it at that .

Like I said. I don't care who or why you're voting or not voting for. But YOU are the one that regurgitated this BS.

Excuse me ???? w-z

Last I looked ,I was only putting in my thoughts here ,,,didnt mean to regurgitate on you .lol Now take your bs somewhere else and get off me .

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Originally posted by tnt5862:
The picture of him tells the tale ...Thats enough for me to see with my own eyes ,,If he cant hold his hand over his heart at our pledge then what kind of President is he goning to make for us the People of America ?

That's what is called regurgitating bs! You regurgitated it!

TNT, is it because he's black?

Nope its not MarianLibarian. Its because He's Not a GOB lol

I wonder just how relevant any of that can be.
What we have now is a Methodist of about 20 years.
Methodist are Christian - I know , that is what denomination I am now.
Even tho Bush is a Methodist (Christian) , no one of any religion or for that fact no religion could have done a worse job.
Goes to show much of that dosn't matter.

I guess thay'll blame everything on the Methodists, soon. Bush, Cheney, Bubba and Hilary are all Methodists. Some idiot will come up with a cross feed to Skull and Bones and 9/11. LOL!

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Some idiot will come up with a cross feed to Skull and Bones and 9/11. LOL!

At first I was going to have fun and crack a joke but then I really found that Bush is all of
what you said. As you know he was in Skull and Bones, and you can read the info below for the Methodist connection. LOL

It must be a conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After obtaining an MBA from Harvard University,[30] Bush entered the oil industry in Texas. In 1977, he was introduced by friends to Laura Welch, a schoolteacher and librarian. They married and settled in Midland, Texas. Bush left his family's Episcopal Church to join his wife's United Methodist Church.[1]

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Originally posted by Peace Brother:


No doubt many who read the above comments which inaccurately portray Mr. Obama’s beliefs will assume that, because it is printed in a “respected” newspaper, it must be true.

Anyone who believes everything they read in the paper is sadly misguided.

I'm all for printing any opinion in the paper as long as the writer's/caller's name is confirmed and printed. I like to know the names of the people I think are idiots.

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Originally posted by Peace Brother:

.... looks like someone else has fallen for the Repugnant's vicious false propaganda.....

What muslim upbringing are you referring to? The one you got in the phoney propaganda email like the one I got today??

People, just because you HEAR something, or you see it on TV, or read it in the venerable Times Daily newspaper, does NOT mean that it is true.

I agree with you on all this except that this is necessarily a Republican tactic. Hillary's camp tried putting this smear out, and got caught.

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Originally posted by Howard Roark:
As both Obama's father and step father were nominally muslim, he received about two hours a week of instruction in the muslim religion in third and fourth grade and occasionally, as a child, accompanied his step father to the mosque for prayer, does not make him a muslim in christian eyes.

But, it does make him a muslim in many muslim eyes. His worse danger may be from muslims who consider him an apostate.

I went to a Lutheran school for two years, and a Presbyterian College for four. Does that make me either?

Crusty,

Don't know too many Lutherans or Presbyterians that chop off heads. Guess, you're safe!