Obama bypasses Senate..........again

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Originally posted by tadpole357:
Just read where Obama blamed the GOP for forcing his hand and he appointed 15 key positions without going through the Senate. And you people still think he is on the up and up?

It's called a recess appointment. Reagan made 243 of them, Bush Sr. made 77, Clinton made 140, and Bush Jr. made 106. George Washington even appointed a Supreme Court Chief Justice during a Senate recess in 1795.

http://www.latimes.com/sns-ap-...ance,1,3173670.story

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For the GOP to not be in the majority he sure makes out like they are so powerful that he has to bypass the system.

Actually, Senators are that powerful. Any Senator can place an indefinite hold on any nominee, and that nomination can't go through. When that happens, the President can either back down and nominate someone else or just wait for a Senate recess and do a recess appointment. As the numbers above show, Presidents frequently choose the latter option. Obama has a lot more nominees waiting for Senate approval that he could have appointed, but he just chose 15 who have been waiting for an average of seven months.

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Our President should be forced to watch "School House Rock" for hours on end and learn how government is supposed to work.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec2

W Bush did it at least 171 times actually.

Bush did not use recess appointments to appoint a justice to the Supreme Court.

But he did do it for two judges for the US courts of appeals. Both lifetime appointments

Atta boy osama. Dig that grave deeper and deeper. Of course it will be full of his fellow defacrats in congress before he himself gets there in 2012. Come on November!

His statement was that the GOP forced his hand. Why would he blame the GOP, most of us had predicted he would do this months ago regardless of what congress decided etc. Gotta hand it to Bush though -- he didn't blame anyone or make an excuse to justify it -- he just did it. Obama knows that people will not be happy with this so he has to ease his guilt.

112 cloture motions last year, and over 40 this year alone. Virtually any motion that has been started.

To put it in perspective. there has been more cloture motions made between January 09 and today than what was made between WWI and the moon landing. One year of republican minority, fifty years of cloture motions.

And you wonder why nothing gets done. And you seriously believe that November is going to change anything?

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Originally posted by Eastside:
His statement was that the GOP forced his hand. Why would he blame the GOP, most of us had predicted he would do this months ago regardless of what congress decided etc. Gotta hand it to Bush though -- he didn't blame anyone or make an excuse to justify it -- he just did it. Obama knows that people will not be happy with this so he has to ease his guilt.

Because republicans are the party of NO now, haven't you heard? It wouldn't matter if he tried to appoint the best judge ever, it would still be blocked. Have you seen the video where the republicans blocked the motion to meet about the contracts for the training of Afghani poilcemen?

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Originally posted by ryokurin:
But he did do it for two judges for the US courts of appeals. Both lifetime appointments

No, those are only lifetime when confirmed by the Senate. Otherwise, the appointment ends when the congressional session ends. Obama's will end in December.

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Originally posted by elinterventor01:

No, those are only lifetime when confirmed by the Senate. Otherwise, the appointment ends when the congressional session ends. Obama's will end in December.

You and your silly "facts".

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Originally posted by elinterventor01:

No, those are only lifetime when confirmed by the Senate. Otherwise, the appointment ends when the congressional session ends. Obama's will end in December.

William H. Pryor's was later confirmed. Charles W. Pickering probably would have been as well but he chose to retire. Still does not matter as the point was it's been done before yet now it's an abuse of power...

As I mentioned before it's been a record setting year of filibuster/cloture attempts by the minority, more than attempted at any point in history. A year was wasted on that crap so it's about time he started to use it.

http://www.google.com/hostedne...Ct82rw2lTYQD9E5NHCO1

http://blogs.alternet.org/skee...-of-power-in-senate/

Reminds me of when I was a kid and when my little sister didn't get her way she'd run to daddy and get whatever she wanted. Same abuse of power back then as is being used in our government now. Many times, no is a good answer -- it may not be what you want, but is can be exactly what you need.

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Originally posted by Caduceus:

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Originally posted by Eastside:
His statement was that the GOP forced his hand. Why would he blame the GOP, most of us had predicted he would do this months ago regardless of what congress decided etc. Gotta hand it to Bush though -- he didn't blame anyone or make an excuse to justify it -- he just did it. Obama knows that people will not be happy with this so he has to ease his guilt.

Because republicans are the party of NO now, haven't you heard? It wouldn't matter if he tried to appoint the best judge ever, it would still be blocked. Have you seen the video where the republicans blocked the motion to meet about the contracts for the training of Afghani poilcemen?

It's probably because there was a rider attached loaded with pork. That is a favorite strategy of dims. They know that many of you dims are too ignorant about their ways.

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Originally posted by ryokurin:
112 cloture motions last year, and over 40 this year alone. Virtually any motion that has been started.

To put it in perspective. there has been more cloture motions made between January 09 and today than what was made between WWI and the moon landing. One year of republican minority, fifty years of cloture motions.

And you wonder why nothing gets done. And you seriously believe that November is going to change anything?

Maybe that's because there have been 50 years worth of un-American motions from the communist left.

No it's simply to tie things up so they can later come back and say that this congress has done nothing. The biparticanship was an illusion. From the cloture motions to the attempts to add things that they know will never be added to bills just so they have a new talking point come election time. It's passive and childish.

If my representatives aren't doing everything in their power to stop this out of control spending and government power grab that is taking place now I will vote them out when their election comes up. We are way past talking points. We need leaders with guts to stand up to the Washington elite and say no.

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Originally posted by ryokurin:
No it's simply to tie things up so they can later come back and say that this congress has done nothing. The biparticanship was an illusion. From the cloture motions to the attempts to add things that they know will never be added to bills just so they have a new talking point come election time. It's passive and childish.

Had you rather Republicans take a page from your dim playbook and urge riots and violence when something happens they don't like? Childish? Grow up, kid.