Obama Indoctrination In Our Schools

or would you have? maybe that was their plan

Tear down the wall!

Kids won't have the choice to see it or not. That's what Obama is counting on. This reminds of pics of the children in Germany with Hitler signs showing their support for him. When they really didn't even know what Hitler was about.

The Obama Jugend Korps!

The Bellamy salute might have a revival.

To me this is one of the most disturbing points to this administration. Just like the socialist's agenda, it is best to start with the children. This is a long term plan, and despite what this administration may say, they know exactly what they are doing.
If gW had tried to have a program like this, the liberals would have thrown a fit saying he was trying to force religion into the class room.
I am not sure this country can survive four more years.

Thankfully Waterloo was not involved, I asked my kids. teyates, I'm not sure we will survive 4 more years either, but I'm not going down without a fight.

I will be contacting my son's school to ask them if they plan to participate in the propoganda. If so, my son will NOT be attending school on Tuesday and WILL NOT make up the ridiculous assignment.

I called our Superintendent today and they hadn't heard about this as of yet. Well, they had heard of it but they had not been ordered from the State Superintendent to require the children to watch the speech on Tuesday. The office told me that they will likely not participate unless it is mandated... just in case that happens I gave them my phone number and asked that I be called as soon as that type decision was made so I could keep my son home during that time. The office then told me that if I sent him but did not want to participate in the "lesson" that they would have an alternative assignment... I think it would be best if he just missed it all together. I called to speak with the principal at our school and he was at a workshop but I will call him back first thing in the morning to let him know that my child had better not participate in this.

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Originally posted by teyates:
To me this is one of the most disturbing points to this administration. Just like the socialist's agenda, it is best to start with the children. This is a long term plan, and despite what this administration may say, they know exactly what they are doing.
If gW had tried to have a program like this, the liberals would have thrown a fit saying he was trying to force religion into the class room.
I am not sure this country can survive four more years.

Agree!.....yes to everthing you said!.....

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Originally posted by Tomme73:
I will be contacting my son's school to ask them if they plan to participate in the propoganda. If so, my son will NOT be attending school on Tuesday and WILL NOT make up the ridiculous assignment.

Home schooling might become very popular or the ppl will rebel.... which one?......

It is very scary to me the lengths this administration is going to to push their Socialist Agenda...I agree -- Had Bush done something like this the media would have been all over it with negative connotations...

I would tell my child -- if they tell you what you are about to watch -- you tell them you are sick and call me and I will come and get you.

I strongly encourage parents to notify their administration that they are against this being mandated for their child and let the school boards know where we stand.

It was only a matter of time. Within a year he will have them marching around like little comrades.

Is this any different from what Pres Regan and both Pres Bush did?

Btw, I remember being in school with a student and his parents didn't allow him to watch tv. Anytime the tv was on he was allowed to go to the library.

No school can force a child to watch. A simple note to the school is a simple remedy. Also there is no requirement to show the speech either.

Yes we can! Yes we can!

I was listening to a talk show on the radio out of birmingham and a certain school system in Jefferson County was making all their schools show it. They were talking with teachers who called in saying they planned to turn the tv off in their classrooms. Most compared it to making a Jewish student sit and watch a Billy Graham Crusade.

post the link where Reagan or Bush did this?

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Originally posted by flotown79:
Is this any different from what Pres Regan and both Pres Bush did?

Btw, I remember being in school with a student and his parents didn't allow him to watch tv. Anytime the tv was on he was allowed to go to the library.

No school can force a child to watch. A simple note to the school is a simple remedy. Also there is no requirement to show the speech either.

Yeah I think Reagan was telling kids to just say no to drugs. What a hideous man he was, trying to indoctrinate our kids to avoid drugs.

But is this not the same? The topic is to do your best, and stay in school, yet it's being twisted even here to a invitation to start the new hitler youth. It's sad. It's similar to the people who love to turn any topic over to a "Obama strikes again" argument. It's not making you look alert or concerned, it's making you look crazy or convinced that the sky is falling.

ryokurin have you read the info being sent to the teachers? It was almost sickening. It sounded like a Sunday School lesson for Obama. Asking the kids to write what can you do for Obama? Go do a little research then come back and comment.

Search the net and read the questions for yourself. This is not just a stay in school and stay off drugs address.

DixieChick has a link on the first post. Doesn't get much easier than that.

I don't get all the uproar...

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Obama intends to "challenge students to work hard, set educational goals and take responsibility for their learning," Duncan wrote. Obama will also call for a "shared responsibility" among students, parents and educators to maximize learning potential.

"The goal of the speech and the lesson plans is to challenge students to work hard in school, to not drop out and to meet short-term goals like behaving in class, doing their homework and goals that parents and teachers alike can agree are noble," Tommy Vietor, a White House spokesman, told FOXNews.com. "This isn't a policy speech. This is a speech designed to encourage kids to stay in school."

But in advance of the address, the Department of Education has offered educators "classroom activities" to coincide with Obama's message.

Students in grades pre-K-6, for example, are encouraged to "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals."

(Yes, I realize the above is just an excerpt)

Heaven forbid our children hear more than one side of an argument. While I respect a parent's decision to not let their child watch the speech, I still don't understand what some people are afraid might happen?

What happened to the "support our president" chant that was repeated when W was in office?

*bracing for attack*

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Originally posted by Firedancer:
I don't get all the uproar...

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Obama intends to "challenge students to work hard, set educational goals and take responsibility for their learning," Duncan wrote. Obama will also call for a "shared responsibility" among students, parents and educators to maximize learning potential.

"The goal of the speech and the lesson plans is to challenge students to work hard in school, to not drop out and to meet short-term goals like behaving in class, doing their homework and goals that parents and teachers alike can agree are noble," Tommy Vietor, a White House spokesman, told FOXNews.com. "This isn't a policy speech. This is a speech designed to encourage kids to stay in school."

But in advance of the address, the Department of Education has offered educators "classroom activities" to coincide with Obama's message.

Students in grades pre-K-6, for example, are encouraged to "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals."

(Yes, I realize the above is just an excerpt)

Heaven forbid our children hear more than one side of an argument. While I respect a parent's decision to not let their child watch the speech, I still don't understand what some people are afraid might happen?

What happened to the "support our president" chant that was repeated when W was in office?

*bracing for attack*

I'm sure that's what some German parents said at the beginning of Hitler's reign. "It wouldn't hurt to hear his side."

Firedancer, have you been under a rock the last 6 months? Do you know the background and beliefs of the 30 to 40 Czars that surround Obama? Have you read the "classroom activities" that are being sent out?

I still don't understand what some people are afraid might happen?

We are being socialized and I don't trust my children with the President.

Maybe he'll teach this however I doubt it


THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER
Two Different Versions!
Two Different Morals!


OLD VERSION:
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed.

The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

MORAL OF THE STORY: Be responsible for yourself!




TODAY’S MODERN VERSION:

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving.

CBS, NBC , PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast.

How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?

Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries when they sing, 'It's Not Easy Being Green.'

Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the news stations film the group singing, 'We shall overcome.' Jesse then has the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's sake.

Nancy Pelosi & John Kerry exclaim in an interview with Larry King that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share.

Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer .

The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he is in, which just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around him because he doesn't maintain it.

The ant has disappeared in the snow.

The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the once peaceful neighborhood.

MORAL OF THE STORY: Be careful how you vote in 2010.

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Originally posted by flotown79:
Is this any different from what Pres Regan and both Pres Bush did?

Btw, I remember being in school with a student and his parents didn't allow him to watch tv. Anytime the tv was on he was allowed to go to the library.

No school can force a child to watch. A simple note to the school is a simple remedy. Also there is no requirement to show the speech either.

Flo -- to me it is different because there was a "lesson plan" asking kids "How can I help President Obama?" etc -- please read the lesson plans and you will see where my concerns are...President REagan and Bush made speeches, but no "test" or "classroom project" was used afterwards. I don't even remember watching their speeches.

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
post the link where Reagan or Bush did this?

November 14, 1988. President Reagan held a similar conference also broadcast on C-SPAN where he went on about the importance of low taxes at least twice in the event. You can make the same assumptions that he did that for their parents, or to create 'future neoconservatives' http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/a...hes/1988/111488c.htm

September 13, 1989 & October 4, 1991. President H.W. Bush held a broadcasts over CNN and PBS on the importance of staying away from drugs. The 1991 event is noteworthy because almost $27,000 was paid by the education department to a private firm to shoot the event, and Bush spent a portion of the event pitching his education program. http://www.nytimes.com/1991/10...ech-is-attacked.html

Still searching to see if President G. W. Bush also held a similar conference


I've said it before and I'll say it again. You are upset on something that has happened before, and the blood is on everyone's hands. Just because you don't remember sitting through all three of the above mentioned events doesn't mean that a significant amount of the voting public around 30 doesn't.

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
ryokurin have you read the info being sent to the teachers? It was almost sickening. It sounded like a Sunday School lesson for Obama. Asking the kids to write what can you do for Obama? Go do a little research then come back and comment.

Yes I have, and its' changed and does not have the 'sickening' sentence anymore. I also know that lesson plans like this are suggestions. not ultimatums that this is how something should be taught. And I remember answering similar questions in 2nd, 3rd and 5th grade when Reagan and Bush made similar efforts.

I can also comprehend and expect the average school age kid can comprehend that "What can I do for Obama" means answers like "I can try my best to receive good grades" or "Listen to my teachers and parents" not the "Convince my parents that his healthcare plan is vital for us" or "I can become socialist" like people are trying to spin it. Your kids probably don't know about the current political environment nor do they really care and probably will like or hate him because of what you say around them and he won't change that in 15 minutes.

Keep drinking the Kool Aid. The conferences Reagan and Bush held were NOT similar to this one. I do not believe Reagan and Bush asked "similar" questions either. My kids DO know about the current political environment. My 9 year old has held signs on Cox Creek advertising a Tea Party. She also attended the town hall meeting. She's learning how to get her representatives attention.

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Originally posted by DixieChik:
http://www.foxnews.com/politic...lesson-plan-students

Before you say Oh it's Fox News AGain -- look at the lesson plans on the Ed.gov site...

http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/prek-6.pdf

http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/7-12.pdf


I am appalled by the administration's ideas on educating our children about Obama through activities such as this. Since we do have to be asked "How can we help Obama?" "How does Obama make your feel?" "What does responsibility etc. mean to you? etc -- all with a reference back to Obama.

This reminds me of Iraqi and Russian schools when dictators were in control -- controlling and guiding the way the people felt about them and their role in their life...

Someone pointed out that Reagan made a similar speech in '88 and Bush 41 did in '91 -- I don't really remember seeing either of those speeches and I know I was never asked to answer questions or respond to what I had seen -- I would have remembered that...

That darn Obama!!! how dare he try and do things like this:

Obama intends to "challenge students to work hard, set educational goals and take responsibility for their learning," Duncan wrote. Obama will also call for a "shared responsibility" among students, parents and educators to maximize learning potential.

The goal of the speech and the lesson plans is to challenge students to work hard in school, to not drop out and to meet short-term goals like behaving in class, doing their homework and goals that parents and teachers alike can agree are noble," Tommy Vietor, a White House spokesman, told FOXNews.com. "This isn't a policy speech. This is a speech designed to encourage kids to stay in school."


And furthermore how dare our Department of Education come up with suggestions to get kids to listen to this. Those darn democrats, all they want to do is make things better. How dare they!

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Keep drinking the Kool Aid. The conferences Reagan and Bush held were NOT similar to this one. I do not believe Reagan and Bush asked "similar" questions either. My kids DO know about the current political environment. My 9 year old has held signs on Cox Creek advertising a Tea Party. She also attended the town hall meeting. She's learning how to get her representatives attention.

What ever you do don't let her hear anything from the other side. She may wind up forming her own oppinios if that happens.

Of course this would be perfectly acceptable...

Texas to revise history textbooks: liberals out, Limbaugh and Gingrich in.
The Texas State Board of Education review committee is preparing to vote on a draft of proposed standards for history textbooks. Noting that the draft has “nothing about liberals,” the Houston Chronicle reported:

The first draft for proposed standards in United States History Studies Since Reconstruction says students should be expected “to identify significant conservative advocacy organizations and individuals, such as Newt Gingrich, Phyllis Schlafly and the Moral Majority.” [...] Others have proposed adding talk show host Rush Limbaugh and the National Rifle Association.

The 15-member committee, stacked with 10 Republicans, is expected to vote along party lines. Earlier this year, a panel of right-wing “experts” produced a report urging the committee to remove biographies of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Stephen F. Austin, and César Chávez, and instead add history about the “motivational role the Bible and the Christian faith played in the settling of the original colonies.”

No wonder our government schools are in such shambles. Controlled by the looney left our public education system continues to drive people to put their kids in private school or home school them to protect them from this nonsense.

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What ever you do don't let her hear anything from the other side. She may wind up forming her own oppinios if that happens.

She's learning how to spell too. Opinions

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Texas to revise history textbooks: liberals out, Limbaugh and Gingrich in.
The Texas State Board of Education review committee is preparing to vote on a draft of proposed standards for history textbooks. Noting that the draft has “nothing about liberals,” the Houston Chronicle reported:

The first draft for proposed standards in United States History Studies Since Reconstruction says students should be expected “to identify significant conservative advocacy organizations and individuals, such as Newt Gingrich, Phyllis Schlafly and the Moral Majority.” [...] Others have proposed adding talk show host Rush Limbaugh and the National Rifle Association.

The 15-member committee, stacked with 10 Republicans, is expected to vote along party lines. Earlier this year, a panel of right-wing “experts” produced a report urging the committee to remove biographies of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Stephen F. Austin, and César Chávez, and instead add history about the “motivational role the Bible and the Christian faith played in the settling of the original colonies.”

Post the link to this. Looks like all propaganda to me. You're the kind I'm trying to protect my daughter from.

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Keep drinking the Kool Aid. The conferences Reagan and Bush held were NOT similar to this one. I do not believe Reagan and Bush asked "similar" questions either. My kids DO know about the current political environment. My 9 year old has held signs on Cox Creek advertising a Tea Party. She also attended the town hall meeting. She's learning how to get her representatives attention.

Poor kid!

Why is she poor? Because she is a conservative Christian? Because she is learning right from wrong? Because she is learning personal responsibility? Don't just post "Poor kid", post some reasons.

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Why is she poor? Because she is a conservative Christian? Because she is learning right from wrong? Because she is learning personal responsibility? Don't just post "Poor kid", post some reasons.

Forcing a 9-year old to stand out on the street with signs for political reasons, that's why!