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I takes 3 megawatts of green power to replace 1 megawatt of conventional.  If we utilitzed all the available wind power in the TVA area, it would suppy about 3% of the summer demand at most.  Solar requires a lot of realty and a lot of sun.  A lot of trees are going to have to be cut down for most homes to use solar.

 

I'll bet you any amount of money that in 10 years green power will not be suppling more than 5% of summer demand in the valley.  Anybody up for this suckers bet?

Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

I takes 3 megawatts of green power to replace 1 megawatt of conventional.  If we utilitzed all the available wind power in the TVA area, it would suppy about 3% of the summer demand at most.  Solar requires a lot of realty and a lot of sun.  A lot of trees are going to have to be cut down for most homes to use solar.

 

I'll bet you any amount of money that in 10 years green power will not be suppling more than 5% of summer demand in the valley.  Anybody up for this suckers bet?

It depends.

Recent spending on PV technology has produced some significant reductions in cost of the PV hardware such that a reasonable ROI is much more likely.   Right now most PV cells are about 20% efficient, but in the lab, cells can be produced that are about 35% efficient.  If that efficiency can be introduced into mass produced cells for the consumer, the whole complexion of solar power might change in 10 years. 

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

I takes 3 megawatts of green power to replace 1 megawatt of conventional.  If we utilitzed all the available wind power in the TVA area, it would suppy about 3% of the summer demand at most.  Solar requires a lot of realty and a lot of sun.  A lot of trees are going to have to be cut down for most homes to use solar.

 

I'll bet you any amount of money that in 10 years green power will not be suppling more than 5% of summer demand in the valley.  Anybody up for this suckers bet?

It depends.

Recent spending on PV technology has produced some significant reductions in cost of the PV hardware such that a reasonable ROI is much more likely.   Right now most PV cells are about 20% efficient, but in the lab, cells can be produced that are about 35% efficient.  If that efficiency can be introduced into mass produced cells for the consumer, the whole complexion of solar power might change in 10 years. 

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My statement had nothing to do with PV technology.  Wind and sun are not dependable 24/7.  Coal will output a constant BTU at any given time.  The atom will also do the same.

 

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

Coal is going away its just a matter of time, whether its 10 years or 200.  Solar will be the best solution in the long term.  Nuclear is probably done forever as lawsuits are going to be filed to end production at all the older US plants.  3 meltdowns and another nuclear wasteland is very compelling to the public. 

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Eventually the supply for coal will run out.  People won't stop using it until then.  I think you're 200 year estimate is more correct.  In 2006 alone, China added about 70,000 megawatts of coal to its portfolio.  India is not far behind in coal plants.

 

You say nuclear is done just as TVA is getting ready to put its second nuclear unit reconstructed in the last 7 years to the grid with further plans to build a new unit in Scottsboro, Al.  I'm feeling fairly confident that you're prognosticating skills are lacking.  There have been zero deaths in the US from commercial nuclear power since it's inception.   

 

As inventor already quite aptly put it, the only way we are going power this nation on wind and sun is to shut down every industrial facility in the nation and submit to being a third world country.

 

Here's a link to even more new nuke plant activity just announced:  http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2...sts-nuke-contractor/

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Germany decided to close their remaining nuclear plants and build no more. Their next three projects will be to build new electric lines to France to use their nuclear plants, enlarge their gas pipelines from Russia, and increase buring their own lignte coal.  Lignite is dirty stuff despite the propaganda otherwise.

 

Despite massive government spending, wind, solar and biomass only produce about 17 percent of their energy.   

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

Germany decided to close their remaining nuclear plants and build no more. Their next three projects will be to build new electric lines to France to use their nuclear plants, enlarge their gas pipelines from Russia, and increase buring their own lignte coal.  Lignite is dirty stuff despite the propaganda otherwise.

 

Despite massive government spending, wind, solar and biomass only produce about 17 percent of their energy.   

The "eco-nuts" consider this "independence".

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