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If polls mattered, Putin is a greater man than Obama:

 

By summer, his approval rating hit a record 87%. By November, when Western sanctions, Russia's counter-sanctions and plummeting oil prices took a bite out of Russia's economy, his approval was still in the mid-80s.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...fies-logic/19831943/

 

Polls reflect emotion not necessarily reality. Depending on whether the economy is healthy enough to grow because people have more cash and spending power from the cheaper gas prices due to the weaker world demand or whether the economy needs the drillers to prosper, Obama's numbers will change. If the economy needs oil exploration to grow, the next recession might come a little earlier and Obama's numbers will drop.

 

PITTSBURGH— U.S. Steel Corp. said it will idle plants in Ohio and Texas and lay off 756 workers, becoming one of the first big U.S. industrial casualties of the recent collapse in global oil prices.

 

The plants make steel pipe and tube for oil and gas exploration and drilling. With oil prices more than 5½-year lows and hovering around $50 a barrel, energy companies have far less incentive to drill for new supply, reducing demand for the plant’s products.

 

The Lorain, Ohio operation, which will shed 614 workers, produces more than 700,000 tons of pipe a year. Houston, where 142 will be laid off, generates over 100,000 tons annually.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-...il-prices-1420556069

 

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

anyone remember the regressives posting this kind of meme? seems they've now changed their tune.

 

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And, thanks in part to fracking and drilling, which Obama opposed and still does, the global oil supply is rising.  The drop in demand globally due to the economies of Japan, China and the EU is another factor.  Lastly, the Saudis are pumping non-stop.  They are doing this to hurt the Russians, Persians and our own fracking. 

Obama still has a relative good approval rating because he is still personally popular.  In November, the nation had a referendum about his and his party's policies.  Results were about 31 Republican governors, over two-thirds of the state assemblies Republican, the largest majority in the House since Coolidge and return of the Senate to the Republicans,  Pelosi has lead the minority in the House for three elections,  In the third world, they shoot generals with such a record. If, Lincoln had a general with that record, he would find himself on a very old wooden naval vessel transferring him to defense of California. 

Originally Posted by direstraits:

Obama still has a relative good approval rating because he is still personally popular.  In November, the nation had a referendum about his and his party's policies.  Results were about 31 Republican governors, over two-thirds of the state assemblies Republican, the largest majority in the House since Coolidge and return of the Senate to the Republicans,  Pelosi has lead the minority in the House for three elections,  In the third world, they shoot generals with such a record. If, Lincoln had a general with that record, he would find himself on a very old wooden naval vessel transferring him to defense of California. 

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i wonder what percent of americans cast votes for that 'republican mandate'.

as for lincoln... you do realize he wasn't even on the ballots, for all states, don't you?

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

Obama still has a relative good approval rating because he is still personally popular.  In November, the nation had a referendum about his and his party's policies.  Results were about 31 Republican governors, over two-thirds of the state assemblies Republican, the largest majority in the House since Coolidge and return of the Senate to the Republicans,  Pelosi has lead the minority in the House for three elections,  In the third world, they shoot generals with such a record. If, Lincoln had a general with that record, he would find himself on a very old wooden naval vessel transferring him to defense of California. 

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i wonder what percent of americans cast votes for that 'republican mandate'.

as for lincoln... you do realize he wasn't even on the ballots, for all states, don't you?

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The first statement isn't pertinent -- the first rule of success is just showing up.

The second statement has no meaning to my statements -- so  what, he won.

Obamacare has pushed us over the entitlements tipping point.  In 2011 some 49.2 percent of U.S. households received benefits from one or more government programs—about 151 million out of an estimated 306.8 million Americans—according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last October.

 

Currently, around 6 million to 7 million Americans who have signed up for Obamacare are receiving taxpayer-provided subsidies (though the administration’s numbers cannot be trusted, it’s all we have to work with).  There are another 3 million who have signed up for Medicaid.

 

That means some 10 million Americans—or a total of about 161 million—are now getting government subsidies (though the final number might be somewhat lower since some may have been receiving benefits already).

 

Thus, perhaps 52 percent of U.S. households—more than half—now receive benefits from the government, thanks to President Obama.  And Mr. Entitlement is just getting started.  If Obamacare is not repealed millions more will join the swelling rolls of those dependent on government handouts.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/me...government-benefits/

 

It looks like Obama should be getting a 52% approval rating. At 48% he is getting a little over 92% of the people he is buying influence with. As to popularity, Stalin has been dead over 60 years and his popularity is still 49% with the Russian people.

http://rbth.com/society/2013/0...ut_stalin_23503.html

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Is there a republican in DC with a higher rating?

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I hope there are no other politicians of any party with higher polling numbers. Historically it appears that cults of personality always have bad results. Give it a few years and "Hope and Change" will produce economic wreckage and ruin or helplessness and chains.

It takes time for the true effects of stupid legislation to be felt. The legislation enabling the housing bust occurred before Bush, but he gets the blame because voters are too stupid to understand cause and effect so they simply go for correlation, who's president when things collapse. For the large banking corporations to gobble up the smaller banks or for commercial banks to fuse with investment banks they had to offer lots of loans to people with bad credit histories with little or no money down via sub-prime loans. To give banks a place to dump those loans, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were allowed to buy those risky loans. To enable the GSE's to buy more risky loans, those loans were allowed to be bundled into risky paper assets (Mortgage Backed Securities) and were sold to investors or back to the banks who bundled them into even riskier paper. All this was legislatively allowed before January 20th 2001, but Bush all by hisself caused the recession!

 

As for Obama's obamanations like Dudd-Frankenstein and Obama-don'-care, they have been slowly implemented and are still works in progress, so the next person who inherits 1600 Pennsylvania Ave gets the blame via correlation, because they are who's in office when reality hits.

And the Census Bureau polls the population for labor force data as well using uncivil servants. At least with Gallop they state that there is such a thing as "a margin of error" of plus or minus a few percent. And that was not the point; the point is that with an uneducated and unthinking population, polls don't differentiate between sinners and saints. Polls only show that the people responding like the politician even though the policies are taking us down the highway to hell.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

You mean the worst recovery since the Great Depression?

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I mean the only recovery totally opposed by the other side.

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You need to re-read your history.  Plus, for the first two years, the administration could do as they pleased -- they did and we are still suffering from the sluggish results.

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

same old liarstraits.. same old BS...  no matter how many times it's proven a lie, you can count on liarstraits to post it again.

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Calling one a liar doesn't make it so.  I posted the results so far of the recovery, such as it is.  Remembr, yiu are the one who claimed FDR was a conservative.

Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

same old liarstraits.. same old BS...  no matter how many times it's proven a lie, you can count on liarstraits to post it again.

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Calling one a liar doesn't make it so.  I posted the results so far of the recovery, such as it is.  Remembr, yiu are the one who claimed FDR was a conservative.

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no, posting the same tired lies, makes you a liar... and here we go again.

Could someone tell what positive things this administration has done to make this a better country? 

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A few silly things like the stock market is in the neighborhood of triple, the unemployment percent is down several points, the deficit is down, consumer confidence is up, the automotive industry is on solid footing again, a few things like these.

You really ought to get out in the outdoors and discover this stuff.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Could someone tell what positive things this administration has done to make this a better country? 

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A few silly things like the stock market is in the neighborhood of triple, the unemployment percent is down several points, the deficit is down, consumer confidence is up, the automotive industry is on solid footing again, a few things like these.

You really ought to get out in the outdoors and discover this stuff.

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JT,  I've explained this many times -- suggest memory retention therapy.  Because the Fed has forced interest rates on CDs, money markets and savings accounts to near zero; investors were driven to the stock market.  Prices were driven up well beyond book value,  Its a bubble economy awaiting slow deflation or a burst.  Either way, people will lose millions, 

 

The U6 underemployment/unemployment rate is still around 11.5 percent -- jobs are up and I have three of them as one person quipped, lately.

 

The deficit is down only marginally.  This administration will double the national debt.

 

 

 

 

Source: Office fo Management and Budget at the White House.

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Looks like Wall Street is getting more stimulus crack, but this time it's from the Euro-zone:

 

The S&P 500 and Nasdaq turned positive for the year as U.S. stocks rallied on Thursday on the back of a larger than anticipated stimulus from the European Central Bank.

 

The ECB will buy 60 billion euros worth of assets per month, more than markets had been hoping for, in a program that will last through September 2016.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/mar...bigtopmarketfeatures

 

I'm sure more dim-bulb-dems will thank Obama tonight praying to the fools-gold jackass god.

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