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Obama says he's Christian and every gullible, politically liberal, supporter accepts it unquestioned.  There is a scripture in Christianity that basically says:

Matthew 7:16 (ESV)
16  You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

Essentially what a person says, even continually, is often a lie and is not what the person says.  Democrats and Liberals make concerted efforts to demean and condemn anyone that might raise such an accusation but today as I heard about the Coup, going on in Turkey, and President Obama choosing to support the current President of Turkey which is a strong Muslim if not radical over the more secular Military which would certainly keep Turkey more aligned with the Western concerns and against Radical Islamic terrorist. 

In ALL cases President Obama, other than just verbally saying he's Christian, has been aligned with Muslim concerns and even promoted Islam indicating that Islam was so important in the founding of America. 

Given that Obama's father was Muslim I believe he feels more allegiance to the Muslim religion than that which he says he is.  Yes he did attend Reverend Wright's church but given the teachings that seem to have come from Reverend Wright it could very well be questioned whether his priority was Christianity or a liberal political agenda for it seems that politics was given far more priority, by Reverend Wright, than teachings of Christ or about Christ.  But that's my own opinion.  As for Obama and his outward statements about being Christian any reasonable person of any intelligence, given our recent history, in this Country, knows that America would never have elected an outward Muslim as President so for Obama it would be politically expedient to be Christian.

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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If there is any sure bet in life, it's that Obama will support the wrong side. Obama supported Mohamed Morsi who belongs to the Muslim Brotherhood and Erdogan is cut from the same islamist cloth. I might note that "Reverend" Wright led a Black Liberation church where the Black prophet Karl Marx proselytized for the great god of government. 

Anthony Bradley of the Christian Post interprets that the language of "economic parity" and references to "mal-distribution" as nothing more than channeling the views of Karl Marx. He believes James Cone and Cornel West have worked to incorporate Marxist thought into the Black church, forming an ethical framework predicated on a system of oppressor class versus a victim much like Marxism.[18]

Trinity United Church of Christ, Chicago is the church most frequently cited by press accounts, and by Cone as the best example of a church formally founded on the vision of Black liberation theology.[9] The 2008 Jeremiah Wright controversy, over alleged racism and anti-Americanism in Wright's sermons and statements, caused then-Senator Barack Obama to distance himself from his former pastor.[9][19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._liberation_theology

Any more in today's secular, liberal, left leaning, political society what with almost 95% media assistance and cover the left's greatest tool in attempting to counter Conservatives and Republicans is a dictionary.  Not that anything has changed over the years for they are still using the same playbook daily. 

It seems that most on the Right, the conservatives and Republicans don't fear the electorate anymore but rather fear, with great anxiety, certain words or being labeled by the Democrats, or worse, the media, as "Racist" or "Bigoted"  or more recently "sexist".   Republicans, out of shear fear of being labeled racist, announced in advance that they would be removing any possibility of impeachment from the table when dealing with President Obama.  I don't know about most on here but to me that's almost a treasonous statement in that it was an invitation for Obama to push any agenda of his regardless of whether it was or would be constitutional  or not.  Republicans further became useless and flaccid in their legislating allowing most any of Obama's desires to pass through or go unopposed so as not to appear as racist or give reason for anyone to label them as such so basically, as an opposing party , they became useless which in great part led to an atmosphere where Donald Trump began to shine and stood out as a viable alternative and sure opposition to what was now the Washington political standard. 

Be not deceived or fooled if Hillary Clinton is elected then it's at minimum, four years more of political inactivity on Congress's part due to the fear changing from racism to sexism.  The real frustrating thing, at least to this, proclaimed, independent minded Conservative leaning voter is that if the Republican Congress and Senate was to have shown 1/10th the backbone and fortitude toward Obama and the Democrats as they have shown against their parties own Presidential candidate, chosen by a majority of the Republican electorate then potentially they would not be in the predicament that they find themselves in.

While I disagree with most of the current Democratic platform at least you have to admit that Democrats, as corrupt as many are, do know how to get things done and legislate whereas the Republicans attempt solely to be diplomatic and fail at both, legislating and diplomacy.  When the Democrats wanted to accomplish their agenda they didn't let Republican opposition and the filibuster impede them, they just used the "nuclear option" and did away with the filibuster.  When Republicans were returned to control of the Senate they removed the nuclear option inclined never to use it or enact it under their rule because they didn't want to appear as obstructionist to Obama.  They were more afraid of what words the media would tag them with than they were identifying the problems and seeking to correct them.  Maybe they were afraid that if they made any profound changes that were seen as beneficial that Obama would get the credit.  

Newt didn't worry about such with his "Contract with America" back in Clinton's day and the "Contract with America" was responsible for the Republicans being trusted and allowed them to regain the senate and house and then they did what they promised and implemented the Contract with America and yes Bill Clinton did get some credit for some of the positive results.  For whatever reason I detest the current batch of Republicans as ineffective leadership and a total failure to make good on the great potential they had when the public trusted the yet again and restored them to power in the Senate and House again.

Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV)

Judge not, that ye be not judged.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

 

Heard in a sermon some time ago that hypocrisy, not judgment, was the root.  Another words, I can sit in judgment of someone who has a committed a crime mala in se only if I haven't committed the same act and/or gotten away with it.  If I have and judge this person, I am a hypocrite.  It the foundation of voir dire.

Or on the other hand, you couldn't sit in judgment of a crime mala in se even if you thought you could get away with it. [less you be judged.]

But for us to sit in judgment of a crime mala in se knowing or having learned it was wrong not only for them to commit the crime but for humanity,  then we, as a nation of laws, are obligated to take sitting in judgment as our judicial and social responsibility.

I do swear or affirm that is true.

 

Matthew 7: 1-3

One of many, most misunderstood or translated to ones own
desires of Bible verses rather then it's over all meaning having
read and understood the complete train of thought concerning it.
 
It's one thing for the Bible to lay the pearls of truth before you,
but another thing for the hypocrites to abuse for their claim
for gain.

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