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Obamacare continues on its path of destruction of the economy and healthcare.  Unlike Democrat conspircists, who would blame similar actions on Republicans, I doubt this was planned by Pelosi and Reid.  They aren't that bright. Just another unintended, but foreseen, consequence by progressive dogooders.  They didn't mean to cause nationwide organized crime, like the mafia, when Prohibition came.  However, they are to blame.   

“Citing Obamacare, Cleveland Clinic to Cut $300M, Warns of Layoff

Spokesperson says aim is to 'keep care affordable.'

By Lylah Alphonse

Administrators at the Cleveland Clinic announced on Wednesday that the health care giant would be cutting as much as $300 million from its 2014 budget, and that the cuts will likely include layoffs.

"Health care reform has really changed things, and the burden of cost is going to be falling on patients," spokeswoman Eileen Shiel told The Plain Dealer. "We want to make sure we can keep care affordable."

 

[During a regularly scheduled quarterly meeting, Cleveland Clinic President and Chief Executive Dr. Toby Cosgrove told employees about plans to reduce operating expenses by about 6 percent, and cited the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, as one of the reasons for the cuts.

"To prepare for health care reform, Cleveland Clinic is transforming the way care is delivered to patients," the Clinic's representatives said in a statement. "Over the past several years, we have had an ongoing focus on driving efficiencies, lowering costs, reducing duplication in services and enhancing quality to make health care affordable to patients."

An early retirement package will be offered to about 3,000 employees by late October, Sheil told the Beacon Journal. Any possible layoffs will be considered after January, she added.

"We know we're going to get paid differently and reimbursed less to do more," Shiel explained. "It will affect the work force, but we're not sure how yet. There will be a reduction."

 

Annual financial statements show that the Cleveland Clinic's operating budget was about $5.5 billion last year, the Beacon Journal reported. The Associated Press reported that staffing and benefits for its 44,000 employees account for more than half of the hospital system's costs.

 

"We can do as much as we can to not affect the work force, but that's a difficult thing to do," Sheil said. "We've scrutinized the non-employee costs first, but it's just not going to be possible to meet this with those cuts alone."

 

The Cleveland Clinic isn't alone in cutting costs and trimming its workforce in the face of health care reform. On Wednesday, Summa Health System in Akron, Ohio, confirmed that it was trimming $8.2 million from its budget by laying off 58 workers this week, cutting back the hours for 46 more, and opting not to fill 132 open positions, mostly through attrition. In February, Akron General Health System laid off 132 employees and cut 118 other positions. In 2011, University Hospitals announced $100 million in cuts over two years, and MetroHealth Medical Center laid off 450 people by cutting $30 million and closing a 144-bed skilled nursing facility.

"This has become the new normal," Sheil said. "This has been a conversation that's been ongoing, not just at the Cleveland Clinic but nationally."

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I didn't say anything about firing doctors. I just think their salaries are part of the problems. We are paying outrageously so they can buy their kids Mercedes to drive to schools and live on the lake.

 

It would be interesting to see Cleveland Clinic President and Chief Executive Dr. Toby Cosgrove's salary.

 

All this goes on while the average person cannot afford insurance and are faced with paying outrageous prices for prescriptions and services.

Originally Posted by David L.:

I didn't say anything about firing doctors. I just think their salaries are part of the problems. We are paying outrageously so they can buy their kids Mercedes to drive to schools and live on the lake.

 

It would be interesting to see Cleveland Clinic President and Chief Executive Dr. Toby Cosgrove's salary.

 

All this goes on while the average person cannot afford insurance and are faced with paying outrageous prices for prescriptions and services.

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Why the problem with doctors? There are plenty of people making way more than doctors. I have never seen one of you that had a problem with athletes, actors/actresses/talk show hosts/news reporters/"celebrities"/singers/song writers etc making MILLIONS of dollars. How many homes do they own? What do their kids drive? Where do their kids live? And, the only time you get upset over a rich politician is when they're Republicans. 

Originally Posted by David L.:

And how much of their budget goes for the doctor's outrageous salaries?

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With the exception of the a couple of top doctors, if they work for the clinic, their salaries won't be outrageous.  Doctors are leaving private practice to work for the clinics.  They do longer have to manage their offices, wait on the government and insurance companies to pay them, and receive a discount on malpractice insurance. 

 

Because of the extreme expense of becoming a doctor and maintaining a practice, the numbers of people applying to medical schools has declined precipitously. 

 

You can keep your doctor -- another liberal untruth.

 

One of "poor" al gore's digs.

 

Nobel Laureate Al Gore purchased a $9 million mansion in the luxurious hills of Montecito, California, recently, and with the exception of the Los Angeles Times and Fox News, America's media couldn't care less.

You think it might be because the Gore-loving press wouldn't want people to consider the possibility that all of his global warming hysteria was really about lining his wallet and not saving the planet?

Formulate a response to that question as you look at what all that money the former Vice President is making off of spreading this myth can buy (h/t Doug Ross):

Sweet, wouldn't you say? 

Certainly not bad for a guy who supposedly was worth between one and two million dollars in 2000.




Originally Posted by David L.:

It doesn't matter if you are "liberal" or "conservative". Both have guilty parties. Blaming liberals for everything is so tiresome.

 

Whatever you say, you have to admit that the current healthcare system doesn't work.

The Obama administration shoved Obamacare down our throats.  No republican voted for it.  Remember that. 

 

Who voted for the bill in congress:

ALABAMA


Democrats: Bright voted NO • Davis voted NO 
Republicans: Aderholt voted NO • Bachus voted NO • Bonner voted NO • Griffith voted NO • Rogers voted NO

ALASKA


Republicans: Young voted NO

ARIZONA


Democrats: Giffords voted YES • Grijalva voted YES • Kirkpatrick voted YES • Mitchell voted YES • Pastor voted NO 
Republicans: Flake voted NO • Franks voted NO • Shadegg voted NO

ARKANSAS


Democrats: Berry voted NO • Ross voted NO • Snyder voted NO 
Republicans: Boozman voted NO

CALIFORNIA


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COLORADO


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CONNECTICUT


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DELAWARE


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FLORIDA


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GEORGIA


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HAWAII


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IDAHO


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SOUTH DAKOTA


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TENNESSEE


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TEXAS


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UTAH


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Republicans: Petri voted NO • Ryan voted NO • Sensenbrenner voted NO

WYOMING


Republicans: Lummis voted NO
 

 

 

 

 

It doesn't matter if you are "liberal" or "conservative". Both have guilty parties. Blaming liberals for everything is so tiresome.

 

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Isn't it just as tiresome blaming republicans for everything? What did I blame anyone for?  I made an observation and asked why you had a problem with doctors and not others? 

Originally Posted by David L.:

I didn't say anything about firing doctors. I just think their salaries are part of the problems. We are paying outrageously so they can buy their kids Mercedes to drive to schools and live on the lake.

 

It would be interesting to see Cleveland Clinic President and Chief Executive Dr. Toby Cosgrove's salary.

 

All this goes on while the average person cannot afford insurance and are faced with paying outrageous prices for prescriptions and services.

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Its about $2.1 million annually.  For someone with such responsibilities on a budget exceeding $6 billion, that's not excessive. 

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