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His birth certificate was publicly released in 2008 and has been online for anyone to see since then.  That's the document that all Hawaiians receive and use for things like driver's licenses and passports.  The longer version hasn't been released until now because the birth certificate he had already provided was sufficient, but mostly because people born in Hawaii aren't legally allowed to access the longer version.  The White House had to make a formal request for the Hawaii State Department of Health to make an exception and release a copy.

 

As for why they waited until now to do that?  It's anyone's guess, but it's pretty clear that the Obama White House was perfectly happy to let its opponents look like idiots for repeatedly insisting that a birth certificate wasn't a birth certificate.  As that idiocy grew more and more mainstream in the Republican Party, however, maybe they finally decided that so many people being distracted by this nonsense was more bad for the country than it was good for Obama politically.  Other theories?

 

Also, I'd hate to be this guy right now:

http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-B...303914414&sr=1-1

Originally Posted by TheMeInTeam:
Originally Posted by interventor1212:

The form Obama released is exactly the form required to receive a passport.  The so-called short form is not sufficient. so, he had to a copy available, personally.

So I guess this is just a clever fabrication on CNN's front page:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2...spondence.pdf?hpt=C1

 

No, its the real thing.  I was commenting on your quote that the short form was all that was required to get a passport.

 

If, you review my prior posts, you will find I did not question that he was born in the US.  Only, that the form originally shown was not the long form and might contain embarassing info.  It doesn't.

 



 

"The form Obama released is exactly the form required to receive a passport.  The so-called short form is not sufficient. so, he had to a copy available, personally."

 

- I haven't delved deep into it, but depending on the state, the short form can be used (it just depends on what info is included on the short form). And since Hawaii uses the short form as the official, this may be the case in Obama's situation. As for why it took so long? Simple, why pander to these people, who are just going to find something wrong with the next thing anyway?

"Oh, yeah, NOW he releases a "birth certificate", after he's had two years to use the powers of the presidency to get it secretly created and implanted into the state records of Hawaii. If he can hide the fact that he's a Muslim from the entire nation, he certainly would have no trouble hiding or altering some event that happened 50 years ago."

That's what the diehard teabaggers will say now. The public existence of a birth certificate didn't deter them before, and the public existence of this new version won't deter them now. The whole issue, after all, is not something that these people thought about and came to a rational conclusion about.

They are just taking their marching orders from Limbaugh, Palin, Boner, Fox, etc., probably all ultimately traceable to Limbaugh. Truth never was their priority; their priority was to cause as much trouble as possible for Obama - to try to create the greatest possible distraction so that there is no time or space left for Democrats to govern effectively or even to present their case to the public.

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

The form Obama released is exactly the form required to receive a passport.  The so-called short form is not sufficient. so, he had to a copy available, personally.

Speaking of Passports, has any one of the Lunatics bothered to ask to see Mr. Obama's?  These days he travels on Diplomatic Papers, but his history indicates at least one trip outside the USA before he was even eligible to register to vote.  The Birth Certificate requirement for a passport requires only "Certified copy issued by the city, county or state."  That is what has been being called the "Short Form."

Originally Posted by Karl Leuba:
Originally Posted by interventor1212:

The form Obama released is exactly the form required to receive a passport.  The so-called short form is not sufficient. so, he had to a copy available, personally.

Speaking of Passports, has any one of the Lunatics bothered to ask to see Mr. Obama's?  These days he travels on Diplomatic Papers, but his history indicates at least one trip outside the USA before he was even eligible to register to vote.  The Birth Certificate requirement for a passport requires only "Certified copy issued by the city, county or state."  That is what has been being called the "Short Form."

It was pretty un-Presidential for Obama, instead of sending out a press

secratary, to come out and have a press conference just to respond to

his birth certificate. He claims it's been taking his time when he could

be focusing on the important matters facing this nation. If it's been such

a time consumer, why didn't he show the goods when Hillary brought

it up in the Democratic Primaries? Talk about silly.

 

Skippy

 

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