just released by the whitehouse! now, what's the next teabagger question?
just released by the whitehouse! now, what's the next teabagger question?
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I'm not a Teabagger but I was just wondering how come it took 3 years? And why now?
He's afraid of Mr. Trump.
His birth certificate was publicly released in 2008 and has been online for anyone to see since then. That's the document that all Hawaiians receive and use for things like driver's licenses and passports. The longer version hasn't been released until now because the birth certificate he had already provided was sufficient, but mostly because people born in Hawaii aren't legally allowed to access the longer version. The White House had to make a formal request for the Hawaii State Department of Health to make an exception and release a copy.
As for why they waited until now to do that? It's anyone's guess, but it's pretty clear that the Obama White House was perfectly happy to let its opponents look like idiots for repeatedly insisting that a birth certificate wasn't a birth certificate. As that idiocy grew more and more mainstream in the Republican Party, however, maybe they finally decided that so many people being distracted by this nonsense was more bad for the country than it was good for Obama politically. Other theories?
Also, I'd hate to be this guy right now:
The form Obama released is exactly the form required to receive a passport. The so-called short form is not sufficient. so, he had to a copy available, personally.
The form Obama released is exactly the form required to receive a passport. The so-called short form is not sufficient. so, he had to a copy available, personally.
So I guess this is just a clever fabrication on CNN's front page:
The form Obama released is exactly the form required to receive a passport. The so-called short form is not sufficient. so, he had to a copy available, personally.
So I guess this is just a clever fabrication on CNN's front page:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2...spondence.pdf?hpt=C1
No, its the real thing. I was commenting on your quote that the short form was all that was required to get a passport.
If, you review my prior posts, you will find I did not question that he was born in the US. Only, that the form originally shown was not the long form and might contain embarassing info. It doesn't.
I don't see why it was ever made an issue to begin with?
How many fools believe a person is going t be elected Senator and president of the US without having proper papers!
"The form Obama released is exactly the form required to receive a passport. The so-called short form is not sufficient. so, he had to a copy available, personally."
- I haven't delved deep into it, but depending on the state, the short form can be used (it just depends on what info is included on the short form). And since Hawaii uses the short form as the official, this may be the case in Obama's situation. As for why it took so long? Simple, why pander to these people, who are just going to find something wrong with the next thing anyway?
If the short form isn't sufficient for Hawaiians to receive a passport, and the only way Obama could get his long form was for he and his lawyer to write to the director of the Hawaii Department of Health asking for a special exception, how do any Hawaiians have a passport?
Maybe they will shut up about it now. It is like the President said this morning, there are much more pressing matters in the country right now. I think Trump was just using this as a diversion and jumping on the tea-bag band wagon. The fact that so many seem to like him is shocking.
I'm sure the rightwing has another little item of BS waiting in the wings to trot out. They can't beat him on substance, so they wallow in the lunatic fringe.
My question would be- Mr. obama, since you and many other leftist keep screaming for the wealthy to pay their fair share, why don't you propose a flat tax rate? For the challenged that means that everyone pays the same percentage of their income in taxes.
Still seems 'short' to be the long form. No birth weight, length or foot prints, but maybe they didn't do that then.
I do find it funny the the check-mark for the doctor is smudged. LOL
Let's hope this finally brings an end to this subject matter!
Maybe now they can actually discuss more important issues facing our nation.
I'm sure the rightwing has another little item of BS waiting in the wings to trot out. They can't beat him on substance, so they wallow in the lunatic fringe.
We'll beat him alright.
2012 will be the year. Don't need any BS, just his record as the Prez.
Skippy
Write this on the wall.
DeepFat agrees with BHO II. The silliness of this issue has distracted too many people from the serious issues we face.
BTW, I had no idea he was BHO "II". Will the birthers start calling him "Junior"?
DF
Write this on the wall.
DeepFat agrees with BHO II. The silliness of this issue has distracted too many people from the serious issues we face.
BTW, I had no idea he was BHO "II". Will the birthers start calling him "Junior"?
DF
Yes, like a Muslim running the country.
Skippy
Now the Birthers will have to find some other falsehood to grab ahold of. Wonder what idiocy it will be next? Or will they just keep on believing?
Now the Birthers will have to find some other falsehood to grab ahold of. Wonder what idiocy it will be next? Or will they just keep on believing?
I think we both know the answer to that:
The issue of a birth certificate has never been an issue with me. Never cared. My problem is with the man himself, and his cronies. It's like someone giving you a choice in taking poison...doesn't matter what, it's still going to kill you.
"Oh, yeah, NOW he releases a "birth certificate", after he's had two years to use the powers of the presidency to get it secretly created and implanted into the state records of Hawaii. If he can hide the fact that he's a Muslim from the entire nation, he certainly would have no trouble hiding or altering some event that happened 50 years ago."
That's what the diehard teabaggers will say now. The public existence of a birth certificate didn't deter them before, and the public existence of this new version won't deter them now. The whole issue, after all, is not something that these people thought about and came to a rational conclusion about.
They are just taking their marching orders from Limbaugh, Palin, Boner, Fox, etc., probably all ultimately traceable to Limbaugh. Truth never was their priority; their priority was to cause as much trouble as possible for Obama - to try to create the greatest possible distraction so that there is no time or space left for Democrats to govern effectively or even to present their case to the public.
He's afraid of Mr. Trump.
You should be too.
The form Obama released is exactly the form required to receive a passport. The so-called short form is not sufficient. so, he had to a copy available, personally.
Speaking of Passports, has any one of the Lunatics bothered to ask to see Mr. Obama's? These days he travels on Diplomatic Papers, but his history indicates at least one trip outside the USA before he was even eligible to register to vote. The Birth Certificate requirement for a passport requires only "Certified copy issued by the city, county or state." That is what has been being called the "Short Form."
The form Obama released is exactly the form required to receive a passport. The so-called short form is not sufficient. so, he had to a copy available, personally.
Speaking of Passports, has any one of the Lunatics bothered to ask to see Mr. Obama's? These days he travels on Diplomatic Papers, but his history indicates at least one trip outside the USA before he was even eligible to register to vote. The Birth Certificate requirement for a passport requires only "Certified copy issued by the city, county or state." That is what has been being called the "Short Form."
It was pretty un-Presidential for Obama, instead of sending out a press
secratary, to come out and have a press conference just to respond to
his birth certificate. He claims it's been taking his time when he could
be focusing on the important matters facing this nation. If it's been such
a time consumer, why didn't he show the goods when Hillary brought
it up in the Democratic Primaries? Talk about silly.
Skippy