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More Chicago style dealings.

 

The former New York office for ACORN, the disbanded community activist group, is playing a key role in the self-proclaimed “leaderless” Occupy Wall Street movement, organizing “guerrilla” protest events and hiring door-to-door canvassers to collect money under the banner of various causes while spending it on protest-related activities, sources tell FoxNews.com.

The former director of New York ACORN, Jon Kest, and his top aides are now busy working at protest events for New York Communities for Change (NYCC). That organization was created in late 2009 when some ACORN offices disbanded and reorganized under new names after undercover video exposes prompted Congress to cut off federal funds.

      NYCC’s connection to ACORN isn’t a tenuous one: It works from the former ACORN offices in Brooklyn, uses old ACORN office stationery, employs much of the old ACORN staff and, according to several sources, engages in some of the old organization’s controversial techniques to raise money, interest and awareness for the protests. Sources said NYCC has hired about 100 former ACORN-affiliated staff members from other cities – paying some of them $100 a day - to attend and support Occupy Wall Street. Dozens of New York homeless people recruited from shelters are also being paid to support the protests, at the rate of $10 an hour, the sources said.

At least some of those hired are being used as door-to-door canvassers to collect money that’s used to support the protests. Sources said cash donations collected by NYCC on behalf of some unions and various causes are being pooled and spent on Occupy Wall Street. The money is used to buy supplies, pay staff and cover travel expenses for the ex-ACORN members brought to New York for the protests. In one such case, sources said, NYCC staff members collected cash donations for what they were told was a United Federation of Teachers fundraising

drive, but the money was diverted to the protests.

Sources who participated in the teachers union campaign said NYCC supervisors gave them the addresses of union members and told them to go knock on their doors and ask for contributions—and did not mention that the money would go toward Occupy Wall Street expenses. One source said the campaign raked in about $5,000. Current staff members at NYCC told FoxNews.com the union fundraising drive was called off abruptly last week, and they were told NYCC should not have been raising money for the union at all. Sources said staff members also collected door-to-door for NYCC’s PCB campaign — which aims to test schools for deadly toxins —but then pooled that money together with cash raised for the teachers union and other campaigns to fund Occupy Wall Street.

“We go to Freeport, Central Islip, Park Slope, everywhere, and we say we’re collecting money for PCBs testing in schools. But the money isn’t going to the campaign," one source said.

"It’s going to Occupy Wall Street, and we’re not using that money to get schools tested for deadly chemicals or to make their kids safer. It’s just going to the protests, and that’s just so terrible.”

A spokesman for the United Federation of Teachers told FoxNews.com, "The UFT is not involved in any NYCC fundraising on the PCB issue.”

Multiple sources said NYCC is also using cash donations through canvassing efforts in New York’s Harlem and Washington Heights neighborhoods for union-backed campaigns to fund the Wall Street protests. “All the money collected from canvasses is pooled together back at the office, and everything we’ve been working on for the last year is going to the protests, against big banks and to pay people’s salaries—and those people on salary are, of course, being paid to go to the protests every day,” one NYCC staff member told FoxNews.com.

Those who contribute don't know the money is going to fund the protests, the source said.

“They give contributions because we say if they do we can fix things - whatever specific problem they’re having in their area, housing, schools, whatever ... then we spend the contributions paying staff to be at the protests all day, every day. That’s where these contributions - the community’s money – is going,” the source said.

“They’re doing the same stuff now that got ACORN in trouble to begin with. And yes, we’re still ACORN, there is a still a national ACORN.”

Another source, who said she was hired from a homeless shelter, said she was first sent to the protests before being deployed to Central Islip, Long Island, to canvass for a campaign against home foreclosures.

“I went to the protests every day for two weeks and made $10 an hour. They made me carry NYCC signs and big orange banners that say NYCC in white letters. About 50 others were hired around my time to go to the protests. We went to protests in and around Zuccotti Park, then to the big Times Square protest,” she said.

“But now they have me canvassing on Long Island for money, so I get the money and then the money is being used for Occupy Wall Street—to pay for all of it, for supplies, food, transportation, salaries, for everything ... all that money is going to pay for the protests downtown and that’s just messed up. It’s just wrong.”

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011...-in-occupy-movement/ 

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NOTICE THE "SOURCES" QOUTED ARE IN RED.  MORE FIXED NEWS BS AND POOR SKIP NOT ONLY FELL FOR IT BUT IS PASSING IT ON.  THAT IS HOW THE PROPOGANDA IS SPREAD!  FOXOPHILES WOULD BE PITIED IF THEY WERE NOT SO DANGEROUS!  

The former New York office for ACORN, the disbanded community activist group, is playing a key role in the self-proclaimed “leaderless” Occupy Wall Street movement, organizing “guerrilla” protest events and hiring door-to-door canvassers to collect money under the banner of various causes while spending it on protest-related activities, sources tell FoxNews.com.

The former director of New York ACORN, Jon Kest, and his top aides are now busy working at protest events for New York Communities for Change (NYCC). That organization was created in late 2009 when some ACORN offices disbanded and reorganized under new names after undercover video exposes prompted Congress to cut off federal funds.

      NYCC’s connection to ACORN isn’t a tenuous one: It works from the former ACORN offices in Brooklyn, uses old ACORN office stationery, employs much of the old ACORN staff and, according to several sources, engages in some of the old organization’s controversial techniques to raise money, interest and awareness for the protests. Sources said NYCC has hired about 100 former ACORN-affiliated staff members from other cities – paying some of them $100 a day - to attend and support Occupy Wall Street. Dozens of New York homeless people recruited from shelters are also being paid to support the protests, at the rate of $10 an hour, the sources said.

At least some of those hired are being used as door-to-door canvassers to collect money that’s used to support the protests. Sources said cash donations collected by NYCC on behalf of some unions and various causes are being pooled and spent on Occupy Wall Street. The money is used to buy supplies, pay staff and cover travel expenses for the ex-ACORN members brought to New York for the protests. In one such case, sources said, NYCC staff members collected cash donations for what they were told was a United Federation of Teachers fundraising

drive, but the money was diverted to the protests.

Sources who participated in the teachers union campaign said NYCC supervisors gave them the addresses of union members and told them to go knock on their doors and ask for contributions—and did not mention that the money would go toward Occupy Wall Street expenses. One source said the campaign raked in about $5,000. Current staff members at NYCC told FoxNews.com the union fundraising drive was called off abruptly last week, and they were told NYCC should not have been raising money for the union at all. Sources said staff members also collected door-to-door for NYCC’s PCB campaign — which aims to test schools for deadly toxins —but then pooled that money together with cash raised for the teachers union and other campaigns to fund Occupy Wall Street.

“We go to Freeport, Central Islip, Park Slope, everywhere, and we say we’re collecting money for PCBs testing in schools. But the money isn’t going to the campaign," one source said.

"It’s going to Occupy Wall Street, and we’re not using that money to get schools tested for deadly chemicals or to make their kids safer. It’s just going to the protests, and that’s just so terrible.”

A spokesman for the United Federation of Teachers told FoxNews.com, "The UFT is not involved in any NYCC fundraising on the PCB issue.” (AND THE NAME OF THIS SPOKESMAN IS?????)

Multiple sources said NYCC is also using cash donations through canvassing efforts in New York’s Harlem and Washington Heights neighborhoods for union-backed campaigns to fund the Wall Street protests. “All the money collected from canvasses is pooled together back at the office, and everything we’ve been working on for the last year is going to the protests, against big banks and to pay people’s salaries—and those people on salary are, of course, being paid to go to the protests every day,” one NYCC staff member(and the NAME of that staffer is????) told FoxNews.com.

Those who contribute don't know the money is going to fund the protests, the source said.

“They give contributions because we say if they do we can fix things - whatever specific problem they’re having in their area, housing, schools, whatever ... then we spend the contributions paying staff to be at the protests all day, every day. That’s where these contributions - the community’s money – is going,” the source said.

“They’re doing the same stuff now that got ACORN in trouble to begin with. And yes, we’re still ACORN, there is a still a national ACORN.”

Another source, who said she was hired from a homeless shelter, said she was first sent to the protests before being deployed to Central Islip, Long Island, to canvass for a campaign against home foreclosures.

“I went to the protests every day for two weeks and made $10 an hour. They made me carry NYCC signs and big orange banners that say NYCC in white letters. About 50 others were hired around my time to go to the protests. We went to protests in and around Zuccotti Park, then to the big Times Square protest,” she said.

“But now they have me canvassing on Long Island for money, so I get the money and then the money is being used for Occupy Wall Street—to pay for all of it, for supplies, food, transportation, salaries, for everything ... all that money is going to pay for the protests downtown and that’s just messed up. It’s just wrong.”

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011...-in-occupy-movement/ 


Great article you got from Fixed News there Skippy!  Lots of anonymous "sources" to make this LOOK like an actual news story when in reality it is just more Fixed News B*llsh*t!  And you have been brainwashed into believing it, without one shred of evidence,only unnamed SOURCES!  That is the Fixed News way!

Get help Foxophiles!

 

REMEMBER:

ONLY YOU CAN PREVENT FOXOPHILES!

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So they can't support a movement?  Or does this just apply to teabaggers under the guise of the different names they use.  What is to deny?  Bul*sh*t from Fixed News with unnamed sources?

b50m, how can you believe the crap you read from Fixed News when I THINK you have enough intelligence to see how it is written?

Seriously, I know you are hardheaded but I never accused you of stupidity.  The ignorant is what they play on but how can intelligent people believe this stuff when the glaring use of unnamed sources time and again show they just make stuff up?

Still using the nasty names I see.  I thought being a daddy would change that.

 

They admit to canvassing for funds, but say they didn't pay anyone.  You think people are going to do that for free?

 

They paid for protestors, the more angry people are, the better donations they get.  Fox broke the story, and in two weeks, after it becomes blatantly obvious, then MSNBC and CBS will crawl in with their tail between their legs and admit it.  Just like when Fox busted them as ACORN.

 

Just keep watching CBS rock. Your world is then easy to understand. Liberals good, conservatives bad. It's simple.

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

Even if 100% of that were true, and its not since no one will go on record about the claims, the OWS is still 100% more of a grass roots public uprising than the Tea Party. 

Not 100%, but it is grassroots. And marijuana root, and hippies, and drums, and no message and no plan and defecating on sidewalks.

 

Oh Yay.

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

Even if 100% of that were true, and its not since no one will go on record about the claims, the OWS is still 100% more of a grass roots public uprising than the Tea Party. 


Ditto, Skippy unwittingly gave me a GREAT example of the technique Fixed News uses to enflame rhetoric amongst the ignorant to from opinions.  And rather than do actual investigative journalism, they just make stuff up!  That is how they spin their lies into psuedo facts.  It is slick.  I don't have time to post on this forum as frequently as I used to but I advise you and the handful of progressives who post here at the Big Top to start checking every article used in a post from Fixed News and point out the anonymous sources used.  It won't help cure the disease of Foxophelia that has infected those on the radical right on this forum, but it may make them recognize the symptoms of their disease!

 

REMEMBER:

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Originally Posted by b50m:

Still using the nasty names I see.  I thought being a daddy would change that.

 

They admit to canvassing for funds, but say they didn't pay anyone.  You think people are going to do that for free?

 

They paid for protestors, the more angry people are, the better donations they get.  Fox broke the story, and in two weeks, after it becomes blatantly obvious, then MSNBC and CBS will crawl in with their tail between their legs and admit it.  Just like when Fox busted them as ACORN.

 

Just keep watching CBS rock. Your world is then easy to understand. Liberals good, conservatives bad. It's simple.


Ever heard of March of Dimes or any other organization that canvasses for funds?  People do it for free all the time, I did for the tornado victims in N Al and also for the Young Democrats while at UNA so that doesn't hold water b50m.

 

Fox broke nothing but a story riddled with lies and unnamed sources  (see red in above story)

You don't really believe this fake journalism, I HOPE, but I may be wrong.

 

BTW, I am not a daddy yet, due the last week of November although we do have the results of the ultrasound and it is a boy!  (the next great liberal linebacker at UNA!!) Thanks for asking.  Will let you know.

Steve Jobs warned Murdoch about his current tribulation.  Despite developing a bond with Murdoch as they collaborated on The Daily, the I-pad only news app from News Corp,  Jobs bluntly told Murdoch over dinner one night that Fox would eventually ruin the owner of News Corporation.

 

“You’re blowing it with Fox News,” Jobs said. “The axis today is not liberal and conservative, the axis is constructive-destructive, and you’ve cast your lot with the destructive people. Fox has become an incredibly destructive force in our society. You can be better, and this is going to be your legacy if you’re not careful.”

 

THe conservatives and the Repubes are simply not smart enough to recognize their failing. 

 

 

 

 

 

His full discussion;

 

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/steve...dibly-150312076.html

Steve Jobs told Rupert Murdoch iast year that he considered Fox News "an incredibly destructive force in our society," according to Walter Isaacson's new biography of the Apple visionary.

In June 2010, Isaacson writes, Jobs agreed to speak at News Corp.'s annual management retreat, violating a personal rule about never doing such appearances. He had recently collaborated with Murdoch on News Corp.'s iPad-only newspaper, The Daily.

Murdoch said Jobs was "very blunt and critical of what newspapers were doing in technology" at the retreat. Later, at dinner, Jobs told Murdoch, "You're blowing it with Fox News," according to Isaacson's book, "Steve Jobs."

"The axis today is not liberal and conservative, the axis is conservative-destructive, and you've cast your lot with the destructive people," the book quotes Jobs as saying. "Fox has become an incredibly destructive force force in our society. You can be better, and this is going to be your legacy if you're not careful."

Jobs also said he did not believe Murdoch liked the network's direction.

"Rupert's a builder, not a tearer-downer," he told Isaacson. "I've had some meetings with James [Murdoch], and I think he agrees with me. I can just tell."

Rupert Murdoch shrugged off the criticism. "He's got sort of a left-wing view on this," he told Isaacson.

Jobs had planned to ask Jon Stewart's team at "The Daily Show" to assemble several Fox News moments for Murdoch to watch.

 

 

I also found  a snippet about Jobs telling Obama he will be a one term president.

 

http://www.gazettebw.com/index...timeout&Itemid=1


Jobs liked Murdoch but not his Fox News organization known for promoting conservative political agendas, according to the biography.

Jobs reportedly told Murdoch that the US was divided and that the News Corp. king was siding with the "destructive" side.



Book snippets included Jobs warning US President Barack Obama last year that he was "headed for a one-term presidency" and offering to help create political ads for the 2012 campaign.

 

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The net result is that much of OWS is true AstroTurf. Between ACORN and Adbusters, many of the demonstrators are rented, if not bought and paid for.  As ACORN plead bankruptcy, I'm certain their creditors will be interested in hidden assets, as well as, the NY State prosecuting attorney. 

 

While a genius, Jobs also believed a fruitarian diet would ensure he needed to bath once weekly.  Associates referred to him as stinky.  Plus, stay upwind of fruitarians.

Originally Posted by rocky:
Originally Posted by b50m:

Still using the nasty names I see.  I thought being a daddy would change that.

 

They admit to canvassing for funds, but say they didn't pay anyone.  You think people are going to do that for free?

 

They paid for protestors, the more angry people are, the better donations they get.  Fox broke the story, and in two weeks, after it becomes blatantly obvious, then MSNBC and CBS will crawl in with their tail between their legs and admit it.  Just like when Fox busted them as ACORN.

 

Just keep watching CBS rock. Your world is then easy to understand. Liberals good, conservatives bad. It's simple.


Ever heard of March of Dimes or any other organization that canvasses for funds?  People do it for free all the time, I did for the tornado victims in N Al and also for the Young Democrats while at UNA so that doesn't hold water b50m.

 

Fox broke nothing but a story riddled with lies and unnamed sources  (see red in above story)

You don't really believe this fake journalism, I HOPE, but I may be wrong.

 

BTW, I am not a daddy yet, due the last week of November although we do have the results of the ultrasound and it is a boy!  (the next great liberal linebacker at UNA!!) Thanks for asking.  Will let you know.

wow hope you raise the child to have an open mind. Yours is completely closed to reality

Steve Jobs may have been a gifted inventor and designer, but his biggest downfall was his leftist views and "hippie-like" attitude that eventually cost him his life.  His pancreatic tumor was essentially an indolent mass that is usually fully treatable and one most people survive, however he decided that his disdain for the American medical system was stronger than their recommended treatment, so he went the alternative route.  In situations such as this, time is the life of the tumor, and the time he spent searching for an alternative cure sent the tumor into a frenzy.  Some even postulate that the effects of some of his lifestyle choices may have hastened this development.  By the time the tumor spread, the only hope was a liver transplant, and for those in the know, this was the death nail for him, since by this time it is usually too late.  However, for those with the money to pursue it, it may be the only hope of a cure.

No, Jobs may have been brilliant on the keyboard, but common sense was lacking.  He was a man who thought he knew everything and did not like to take the advice of others.  Millions mourn the passing of this creative genius, and posterchild of the left, but in reality it appears he did not have sense to get in out of the rain.  Cancer is the great equalizer in this world.  It has no respect for party affiliation nor size of your bank account. I pity the poor man, but to be honest, I find it hard to take governing advice from a man too stubborn to save his own life.

The man that understood the wants and desires of the world and created a product to fulfill those needs is still not smart enough to tell the Repubics that Fox and Murdoch are contributing to the ruination of the USA. 

If Jesus came down and said that the attitude of conservatives is wrong, and He would, the Repubics would all become atheists. 

You got that right, at least partially, a man who understood how to make a computer, had no idea on how to take care of his own life.  Yet he did tell Obama that his current practices were ruining business, yet Obama did not want to listen to him. So maybe Obama is either smarter than I give him credit, or dumber than you think, which one is it?

And listening to someone with your views telling us how Jesus thinks and would react is pretty laughable. I think he can speak for himself.

Originally Posted by teyates:

You got that right, at least partially, a man who understood how to make a computer, had no idea on how to take care of his own life.  Yet he did tell Obama that his current practices were ruining business, yet Obama did not want to listen to him. So maybe Obama is either smarter than I give him credit, or dumber than you think, which one is it?

And listening to someone with your views telling us how Jesus thinks and would react is pretty laughable. I think he can speak for himself.


Americans want affordable health care. 

The cost of care has increased at twice the rate of inflation over the last 30 years. 

The only substantive thing done by the Repubes was Medicare D, which is the largest expansion of a federal entitlement program EVER.

DemoCare has changed the future of health care in this country and for better or worse we have to face the problem and deal with it, something the Dems understood and did something about. 

 

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

Ditzy,

 

Did it ever occur to you that the federal government's increasing regulation and intervention into  medical care might be a major cost driver that caused the sharp increase in medical expenses?  Certainly, in general, profit margins haven't grown 200 percent.

***

 

With the Part D Medicare Prescription Drug program, the really BIG mistake was that the law made no provision for the government to NEGOTIATE prices for the very large quantities of drugs it pays for. The federal government negotiates large volume contracts for just about everything else it purchases.  it was a triumph for the Big Pharma lobbyists that no requirement for cost negotiation was placed in the law establishing that program.  Thus, the government pays full price for drugs instead of purchasing them at discounts similar to those it negotiates for myriads of other goods (Defense Department excepted, where the department dutifully pays for enormous contractor cost   overruns, negating the "bargain" achieved in original contracts).

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by interventor1212:

Ditzy,

 

Did it ever occur to you that the federal government's increasing regulation and intervention into  medical care might be a major cost driver that caused the sharp increase in medical expenses?  Certainly, in general, profit margins haven't grown 200 percent.

***

 

With the Part D Medicare Prescription Drug program, the really BIG mistake was that the law made no provision for the government to NEGOTIATE prices for the very large quantities of drugs it pays for. The federal government negotiates large volume contracts for just about everything else it purchases.  it was a triumph for the Big Pharma lobbyists that no requirement for cost negotiation was placed in the law establishing that program.  Thus, the government pays full price for drugs instead of purchasing them at discounts similar to those it negotiates for myriads of other goods (Defense Department excepted, where the department dutifully pays for enormous contractor cost   overruns, negating the "bargain" achieved in original contracts).

The VA has some of the lowest prices for drugs in the US. Why? Because they negotiate. The Lipitor sold in Canada is half the price of the same drug, made in the same plant in Ireland, as the US drug. Why? Because they control prices. Do you think that drug companies don't make a profit in Canada? Why doesn't the US negotiate for drugs? Why doesn't the US control drug prices? Because the Republicans and some Democrats all ow the drug companies to run things. Who pays for this political kickback? You do. Acorn is the least of your problems.

 

The guy that wrote the Medicare Part D legislation immediately retired after it was signed and went to work for the pharma lobbying contingent at a multimillion dollar salary. 

 

So in 2003 Mr. Tauzin, then chairman of the powerful energy and commerce committee, made a deal. Though still on a modest Congressional salary, he paid more than $1 million for a 1,500-acre ranch there. And he invited a dozen friends — mostly executives and lobbyists with interests before his committee — to cover its mortgage by paying him dues as members of a new hunting club. It did business as Cajun Creek L.L.C., based in the Baton Rouge office of a lobbyist who was a member.

 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02.../policy/13pharm.html

 

Jimi, what else does the VA have besides those contracts for the drugs that makes them so inexpensive?  Wanna take a guess??? It is a tort liability that essentially prtects them, as well as the physician who prescribes the drug, from  lawsuits secondary to any effects those drugs, or the actions of the physician, may inflict upon those patients.  The one beautiful thing about the VA system and military medicine at one time was the protection it afforded physicians from the hordes of blood thirsty lawyers and patients who were willing to sue at the drop of a hat.  Though changes have been made which do not totally protect those who serve in that system, their liability is nothing compared to those who currently work in the "real" world.  If you are willing to give tort reform, which Obama and his coattail of lawyers were not even willing to negotiate, you could perhaps have some cost savings on both the physician and drug fronts.  But it is not going to be a one sided victory.

 

Originally Posted by teyates:

Jimi, what else does the VA have besides those contracts for the drugs that makes them so inexpensive?  Wanna take a guess??? It is a tort liability that essentially prtects them, as well as the physician who prescribes the drug, from  lawsuits secondary to any effects those drugs, or the actions of the physician, may inflict upon those patients.  The one beautiful thing about the VA system and military medicine at one time was the protection it afforded physicians from the hordes of blood thirsty lawyers and patients who were willing to sue at the drop of a hat.  Though changes have been made which do not totally protect those who serve in that system, their liability is nothing compared to those who currently work in the "real" world.  If you are willing to give tort reform, which Obama and his coattail of lawyers were not even willing to negotiate, you could perhaps have some cost savings on both the physician and drug fronts.  But it is not going to be a one sided victory.

 

Blissful ignorance is thy middle name.

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

Only 1 in 10 incidences of malpractice results in a lawsuit. 

Stop making mistakes and people will stop suing you. 

 

Every year, hospitals kill 90,000 people by giving them the wrong drug or an incorrect dosage.  If enough people would sue, then hospitals would construct a system that would prevent such incidences. 

Now, Ditzy, we've discussed this about four times before.  About 61 percent of malpractice lawsuits are settled out of court.  Rather skewers your statistics, doesn't it.

http://www.lawyerlocator.com/m...ettled-versus-trial/

 

Are you skipping your ADD meds again?

 

Ditzy,

Only 1 in 10 incidences result in a lawsuit?  Is that your answer.  So 1 in 10, or 10% is OK?  Let's add one additional percentage to this.  Only 9 out of 10 of those actually collect.  That's right, despite the fact that 10% of the cases will result in a suit, only 10% of those suits are actually found to be relevant and rewarded.  So in reality .1% are even deemed worthy of recuperation.  Despite that fact, millions of dollars in money and time are spent defending them.  time that could be spent seeing patients or enjoying what precious few hours they off.  Money that could be spent paying employees or upgrading their offices.

Thousands of suits are filed weekly.  It is like a lottery because the lawyers know they might collect something, take 40% off the top and give the plaintiff a little token for their "suffering".

It is a joke for you to even insinuate that there is no problem with the way this is being conducted.  You don't have a clue, admit it.

Originally Posted by teyates:

Ditzy,

Only 1 in 10 incidences result in a lawsuit?  Is that your answer.  So 1 in 10, or 10% is OK?  Let's add one additional percentage to this.  Only 9 out of 10 of those actually collect.  That's right, despite the fact that 10% of the cases will result in a suit, only 10% of those suits are actually found to be relevant and rewarded.  So in reality .1% are even deemed worthy of recuperation.  Despite that fact, millions of dollars in money and time are spent defending them.  time that could be spent seeing patients or enjoying what precious few hours they off.  Money that could be spent paying employees or upgrading their offices.

Thousands of suits are filed weekly.  It is like a lottery because the lawyers know they might collect something, take 40% off the top and give the plaintiff a little token for their "suffering".

It is a joke for you to even insinuate that there is no problem with the way this is being conducted.  You don't have a clue, admit it.


You arent very smart, are you.

1 in 10 incidences means that there were 10 cases of malpractice, but of those 10 only 1 was worth filing suit based on the judgement of the lawyers, ie 9 people were damaged by a doctors mistake and will not be compensated or the doc punished.

I just know from personal experience. 

Obviously I am smarter than you.  When 90% of the cases are found without merit, there is obviously no malpractice, since they have to meet the standards of care set about by the law.  Then 90% of those cases that do meet the criteria are found to not be of fault, or let's just say, not related to human error, based upon the decision of the jury.  Yet all of this time and money is spent defending what turns out to be a useless claim.

People are going to get sick.  People are going to have complications, either related to the drug or the treatment.  And yes, people are going to die, but that does not mean it is malpractice.  Medicine is not a a 100% guarantee and some times despite every effort the patient will not survive, or may suffer some form of detriment.

Are there cases of medical negligence?  Absolutely, but very few of them are intentional.  Here is a news tidbit for you....doctors are humans and will make mistakes.  No one is perfect, and there is no one short of a human supercomputer that can make 100% of their decisions in a correct fashion. 

Wow.

The standard of care criteria does not even address negligence.  I cant believe you dont understand what constitutes malpractice. 

 

Once again you arent comprehending.  The 10 cases referenced are ALL cases of malpractice as determined by docs, but lawyers only thought that 1 case was worth a large settlement and therefore worthy of filing a suit. 

 

In my case, my mom was injured by a radiation oncologist but because of her prognosis, no lawyer would take the case on contingency, so I paid out of pocket.

 

Stop injuring and killing people and they wont sue as often.

 

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