<<<Race was a strong subtext in post-election conversations across the socioeconomic spectrum here in Vernon, the small, struggling seat of Lamar County on the Mississippi border.

One white woman said she feared that blacks would now become more “aggressive,” while another volunteered that she was bothered by the idea of a black man “over me” in the White House.">>>

Post-election analysis of the Souther voting pattern. The article continues:

<<<Mr. McCain won 76 percent of the county’s vote, about five percentage points more than Mr. Bush did, because “a lot more people came out, hoping to keep Obama out,” Joey Franks, a construction worker, said in the parking lot of the Shop and Save.>>>

The link has a lot more to inflame all you bad-loser apologists for Southern politics

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Originally posted by beternU:


One white woman said she feared that blacks would now become more “aggressive,” while another volunteered that she was bothered by the idea of a black man “over me” in the White House."



Oh my! (my blood pressure just rose a bit!)
How sad that people are still so intolerent.
It makes the scene out of Blazing Saddles much more funny...the one where Cleavon Little faces the Klan members and asks, "Where all de white women?"

I watched it again the other night, and recall Gene Wilder's comment..."these are simple people, people of the land...you know, morons." I guess they will be with us always.
As long as some one keeps putting it on the front page of a newspaper, it will never be a non-issue. If you want to stop hate, stop reminding people of hate.
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Originally posted by LMM:
As long as some one keeps putting it on the front page of a newspaper, it will never be a non-issue. If you want to stop hate, stop reminding people of hate.


I think that is the problem. When we do not discuss the real problem and act as if it does not exist, then it continues. Its called "enabling" and "denial".
Good grief how many times are we going to have posts about this. Every other day there is another post about it. It is real simple, yes people voted for McCain b/c Obama is black, I do not think any one has ever tried to argue against that but also people voted for Obama b/c he was black. Both cases are wrong but in this country they are free to do so. Some people voted for each of them based on where each candidate stood on the issues. LMM has some truth in her comments. As long as every one keeps pushing "all of the race issues" this country has (which are there but are getting better)we will never be able to move beyond it.
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Good grief how many times are we going to have posts about this. Every other day there is another post about it. It is real simple, yes people voted for McCain b/c Obama is black, I do not think any one has ever tried to argue against that but also people voted for Obama b/c he was black. Both cases are wrong but in this country they are free to do so. Some people voted for each of them based on where each candidate stood on the issues. LMM has some truth in her comments. As long as every one keeps pushing "all of the race issues" this country has (which are there but are getting better)we will never be able to move beyond it.


So you are suggesting that blacks did not vote for McCain because he is white? Really?
No I said some people voted for Obama b/c he was black. It went both ways, we have had this discussion on some other threads. Both ways are wrong.
I still wish we could go back to what was said on one of the other threads. No picture would be allowed out of the candidate until after the election. So it would not matter which one was taller fatter balder sex race or anything just base it on the issues
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Originally posted by LMM:
As long as some one keeps putting it on the front page of a newspaper, it will never be a non-issue. If you want to stop hate, stop reminding people of hate.


I think that is the problem. When we do not discuss the real problem and act as if it does not exist, then it continues. Its called "enabling" and "denial".

If I stand in front of UNA everyday and scream "No blacks allowed until 1960 because the south hates blacks", is that going to make things better? Its called opening old wounds and not letting them heal. We are not allowed to discuss the 'real problem' because that is racist. We can't even say Barack is black, that is racist. When we finally agree to actually realize that both blacks and whites can say black and white without hate, then we can discuss it.
LMM exactly. I have complained for years ( it is getting better I think) that the news media feeds more racism than anyone. If you never meet some one from a different culture and just went based on the news. Every black is a drug dealing gang member every white guy is in the Klan and every hispanic is an illegal that works in chicken plant. If you keep pounding "the old wounds" no one will move past it, some will even use it as an excuse to not move on.
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Originally posted by LMM:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by LMM:
As long as some one keeps putting it on the front page of a newspaper, it will never be a non-issue. If you want to stop hate, stop reminding people of hate.


I think that is the problem. When we do not discuss the real problem and act as if it does not exist, then it continues. Its called "enabling" and "denial".

If I stand in front of UNA everyday and scream "No blacks allowed until 1960 because the south hates blacks", is that going to make things better? Its called opening old wounds and not letting them heal. We are not allowed to discuss the 'real problem' because that is racist. We can't even say Barack is black, that is racist. When we finally agree to actually realize that both blacks and whites can say black and white without hate, then we can discuss it.


I understand. If we minimize the impact of racists we reduce their relevance, which with the election of Obama we have certainly done as a nation ( does not matter if you like him or not, that is not the point).
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LMM exactly. I have complained for years ( it is getting better I think) that the news media feeds more racism than anyone. If you never meet some one from a different culture and just went based on the news. Every black is a drug dealing gang member every white guy is in the Klan and every hispanic is an illegal that works in chicken plant. If you keep pounding "the old wounds" no one will move past it, some will even use it as an excuse to not move on.



Ah...someone finally speaks the truth.
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I understand. If we minimize the impact of racists we reduce their relevance, which with the election of Obama we have certainly done as a nation ( does not matter if you like him or not, that is not the point).

Exactly, if we harp on the stereotypes, they never go away. Racists have to have an audience, no audience, no power.
Electing Obama may help to heal the wounds.
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Originally posted by LMM:
As long as some one keeps putting it on the front page of a newspaper, it will never be a non-issue. If you want to stop hate, stop reminding people of hate.


Are you suggesting that this would actually work?

Wow... how stupid are we, then? The "war on drugs", shoot, the "war on terror"... we're perpetuating drug use and terror by reminding people that such things exist?

Boy, I'll bet a lot of people feel foolish right about now...
See the other post too, o wise one!
We are perpetuating fear and hatred by constantly slamming it down people's throats.
Tell your child he is ugly everyday and see how well his self confidence is.
Tell a black man that your parents hated his parents everyday and see if he loves you.
Tell your mom that the terrorists are going to blow up Walmart everyday and see if she goes to the store.
I bet you feel foolish right about now.......
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Originally posted by TheFox: To deny, yes. But to quote a construction worker and not give someone with intelligence a chance to rebut...
Hi Fox,

Are you saying there are no intelligent construction workers? Reading your comment make me think about a meeting I had with a computer client in the 1970s. He was an Aerospace Ph.D. and worked for Rockwell. He and I were sitting in the lobby of his building talking, when he said, "I should have gone into a different field. Aerospace is too dependent upon government contracts."

I asked him, "If you were going to get your doctorate in another field; what would you choose?"

He laughed and told me, "If I had it to do over -- I would forget the doctorate -- and go into plumbing or be a carpenter. They make a lot more money."

Now, Fox, if you ran into this man -- or someone like him working in construction -- would you say that you have more intelligence than him?

Be careful how you put folks into a box or categorize them -- because of their chosen field of work. I have met many auto mechanics, carpenters, and other folks who work in blue collar jobs who are much smarter than me. And, I would imagine more intelligent that you.

Just a thought.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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See the other post too, o wise one!
We are perpetuating fear and hatred by constantly slamming it down people's throats.
Tell your child he is ugly everyday and see how well his self confidence is.
Tell a black man that your parents hated his parents everyday and see if he loves you.
Tell your mom that the terrorists are going to blow up Walmart everyday and see if she goes to the store.
I bet you feel foolish right about now.......


I am feeling foolish, for sure. It was awfully silly of me to think you'd actually listen to someone who doesn't chant "ditto" in unison.

By the way, my mom was smart enough to know that terrorists are unlikely to be interested in blowing up the local Wal*Mart. I wish more people were smart enough not to believe everything they hear, regardless of how many times they've heard it repeated. Don't you? Smiler
While Al Qaeda still seeks the big targets, in one of Zawahiri's latest rants, he called on members to target malls and other places Americans gather.
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While Al Qaeda still seeks the big targets, in one of Zawahiri's latest rants, he called on members to target malls and other places Americans gather.


Ok, so if she were alive, my mom might avoid shopping at the Baghdad Wal*Mart. Roll Eyes
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I am feeling foolish, for sure. It was awfully silly of me to think you'd actually listen to someone who doesn't chant "ditto" in unison.

Sorry Ed, I usually don't listen to sarcasm, which is what you usually give. Silly me. Don't believe anything you hear and you will live longer!
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I am feeling foolish, for sure. It was awfully silly of me to think you'd actually listen to someone who doesn't chant "ditto" in unison.

Sorry Ed, I usually don't listen to sarcasm, which is what you usually give. Silly me. Don't believe anything you hear and you will live longer!


You know what? You're right. And that, ironically enough, is said without the slightest trace of sarcasm.

Sarcasm is probably what I most frequently utilize in the politics forum. As a gun-owning Christian who is constantly harped on by the leftist hard-liners, and as a socially-liberal semi-intellectual who is constantly ranted at by the rabid righties, sarcasm is my stock in trade.

I would apologize, but it wouldn't be heartfelt. I am equally disdainful of those who march in lockstep with their leaders, regardless of who those leaders are. I am compelled by my sense of what's decent and fair to poke fun at people whenever I think they're being unreasonable. And sarcasm is the handiest and most comfortable tool in my bag of tricks.
I did not ask for an apology. I don't walk in lockstep with anyone, and you can post sarcasm all you want. I'll just ignore it. Big Grin

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