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Olbermann Calls Hannity's Bluff: $1000 For Every Second Of Waterboarding (VIDEO).

MSNBC's Keith Olbermann announced on Thursday that he is willing to pay $1,000 to charity for every second that Fox News anchor Sean Hannity undergoes waterboarding torture.

As HuffPost noted yesterday, Hannity was prodded by actor Charles Grodin into agreeing to subject himself to waterboarding to benefit a charity for the families of U.S. soldiers.

On MSNBC tonight, Olbermann called on Hannity to stay true to his word, and argued the benefit of having the arch-conservative pundit tortured would be that he might finally recognize the "deadly seriousness" of the debate over detainee treatment.

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What it says about Olbermann is that he's trying to get the right-wing extremists to realize that waterbording IS TORTURE!

I will never forget the first big Republican Debate when they still had about 7 big front-runners in it. They all got talking about "enhanced interrogation techniques" and most of them, including Religious Romney, thought they should be increased, thought they should increase the size of Quantanamo, etc. They got to John McCain and he simply looked at the camera and said, "We don't torture people!"

I was so proud of him at that moment. He was not really seen as a contender for the ticket but I thought, "Wow, what would it be like to have a president with that kind of integrity?" Of course, the day he picked Sarah Palin, I realized that having a president with some intelligence would also be helpful and I couldn't vote for him.

It just makes me sick what has happened to the Republican party now that it's been taken over by nut cases. Where are the Christians? No, not the ones who think abortion is the most important issue in the country, the ones who think that human dignity is an important quality for Christians to possess.
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Originally posted by foot_n_mouth_often:
the fact that olberman would rather waterboard hannity than a real terrorist is very disturbing. i think it says alot olberman and not in a good way.


No, no it does not. If water-boarding is not torture (according to Hannity it is not), then why not put your money where your mouth is? Journalist Christopher Hitchens (a conservative) volunteered himself to be water-boarded and declared it to be torture. How does Hannity know what he is talking about until he gives it a try? If our military personnel are willing to try it then why not Hannity?

John McCain knows more about "torture" than little Mr. Hannity ever will.

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Originally posted by foot_n_mouth_often:
the fact that olberman would rather waterboard hannity than a real terrorist is very disturbing. i think it says alot olberman and not in a good way.


I agree.

Democrats would rather put the terrorist up in a Ritz Carlton and demean our military personnel than try to prevent an attack on America. Waterboarding is not torture. Listening to Democrats is torture.
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Originally posted by skymaster:
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Originally posted by foot_n_mouth_often:
the fact that olberman would rather waterboard hannity than a real terrorist is very disturbing. i think it says alot olberman and not in a good way.


I agree.

Democrats would rather put the terrorist up in a Ritz Carlton and demean our military personnel than try to prevent an attack on America. Waterboarding is not torture. Listening to Democrats is torture.


Have you ever been water-boarded? From what experience do you speak?

Of course you know when you make foolish statements it totally removes the legitimacy of your argument.
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by skymaster:
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Originally posted by foot_n_mouth_often:
the fact that olberman would rather waterboard hannity than a real terrorist is very disturbing. i think it says alot olberman and not in a good way.


I agree.

Democrats would rather put the terrorist up in a Ritz Carlton and demean our military personnel than try to prevent an attack on America. Waterboarding is not torture. Listening to Democrats is torture.


Have you ever been water-boarded? From what experience do you speak?

Of course you know when you make foolish statements it totally removes the legitimacy of your argument.


Nothing foolish about my statement. It’s a true.
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Originally posted by skymaster:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by skymaster:
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Originally posted by foot_n_mouth_often:
the fact that olberman would rather waterboard hannity than a real terrorist is very disturbing. i think it says alot olberman and not in a good way.


I agree.

Democrats would rather put the terrorist up in a Ritz Carlton and demean our military personnel than try to prevent an attack on America. Waterboarding is not torture. Listening to Democrats is torture.


Have you ever been water-boarded? From what experience do you speak?

Of course you know when you make foolish statements it totally removes the legitimacy of your argument.


Nothing foolish about my statement. It’s a true.


Prove it. Put up or shut up. Tell us your experience with Water-boarding. Give us a link where anyone wanted to place terrorists in the "Ritz-Carlton". Specifics please.
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by skymaster:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by skymaster:
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Originally posted by foot_n_mouth_often:
the fact that olberman would rather waterboard hannity than a real terrorist is very disturbing. i think it says alot olberman and not in a good way.


I agree.

Democrats would rather put the terrorist up in a Ritz Carlton and demean our military personnel than try to prevent an attack on America. Waterboarding is not torture. Listening to Democrats is torture.


Have you ever been water-boarded? From what experience do you speak?

Of course you know when you make foolish statements it totally removes the legitimacy of your argument.


Nothing foolish about my statement. It’s a true.


Prove it. Put up or shut up. Tell us your experience with Water-boarding. Give us a link where anyone wanted to place terrorists in the "Ritz-Carlton". Specifics please.


You liberals are always wanting people to shut up that don’t agree with you. I know several military personnel that have been water boarded as part of their training. None consider it torture as the libs do. You libs are worried about terrorist liking us. Why?

Waterboarding saved American lives. George Bush saved American lives. These facts just annoy liberals to no end.

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From the links:

The memos discuss a number of harsh interrogation methods, but these were carefully circumscribed and monitored so as not to inflict the “severe physical or mental pain or suffering” that would constitute torture.

According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack — which KSM called the “Second Wave”– planned “ ‘to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles.”
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Originally posted by skymaster:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by skymaster:
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Originally posted by foot_n_mouth_often:
the fact that olberman would rather waterboard hannity than a real terrorist is very disturbing. i think it says alot olberman and not in a good way.


I agree.

Democrats would rather put the terrorist up in a Ritz Carlton and demean our military personnel than try to prevent an attack on America. Waterboarding is not torture. Listening to Democrats is torture.


Have you ever been water-boarded? From what experience do you speak?

Of course you know when you make foolish statements it totally removes the legitimacy of your argument.


Nothing foolish about my statement. It’s a true.


Prove it. Put up or shut up. Tell us your experience with Water-boarding. Give us a link where anyone wanted to place terrorists in the "Ritz-Carlton". Specifics please.


What is your experience?

The liberal media commentaries.

The Nation is split 50/50 on what torture is and if enhanced techniques should be applied. You have bleeding heart liberals on one side and reality on the other.

It's opinionated at best, however I would pay a $1000 a minute for girly man Olbermann to get in the ring with one of our soldiers he despises so much.
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Originally posted by Nobluedog:
"We don't torture people in America and people who say we do simply know nothing about our country." - George W. Bush [Interview with Australian TV - October 18, 2003]

Since people walk away unscathed; ie, no blood loss, no limbs lost or broken, all bowels intact, all eyeballs in the proper socket, and their skin is still on the body as well as their fingernails; no, not torture. Uncomfortable, yes. Deadly, no.
Now compare that to Saddam's little palaces of horrors or atrocities of WWII or the Vietcong.
I'll wait.
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Originally posted by skymaster:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by skymaster:
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Originally posted by foot_n_mouth_often:
the fact that olberman would rather waterboard hannity than a real terrorist is very disturbing. i think it says alot olberman and not in a good way.


I agree.

Democrats would rather put the terrorist up in a Ritz Carlton and demean our military personnel than try to prevent an attack on America. Waterboarding is not torture. Listening to Democrats is torture.


Have you ever been water-boarded? From what experience do you speak?

Of course you know when you make foolish statements it totally removes the legitimacy of your argument.


Nothing foolish about my statement. It’s a true.


Prove it. Put up or shut up. Tell us your experience with Water-boarding. Give us a link where anyone wanted to place terrorists in the "Ritz-Carlton". Specifics please.


You liberals are always wanting people to shut up that don’t agree with you. I know several military personnel that have been water boarded as part of their training. None consider it torture as the libs do. You libs are worried about terrorist liking us. Why?

Waterboarding saved American lives. George Bush saved American lives. These facts just annoy liberals to no end.

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From the links:

The memos discuss a number of harsh interrogation methods, but these were carefully circumscribed and monitored so as not to inflict the “severe physical or mental pain or suffering” that would constitute torture.

According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack — which KSM called the “Second Wave”– planned “ ‘to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles.”


I see nothing about the Ritz-Carlton in any of your links.
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Originally posted by geddon97:
Lets see,between the choice of some savage getting his head dunked or my children getting their heads cut off because they will not face Mecca and pray 5 times a day?Hmmmmmmm I think I`ll choose the dunking.Call me kooky but that`s what I think.


Pure hyperbolic, hysterical, over-reaching,reactionary, conjecture based on no reality. Where are these elusive Islamic terrorists holding children hostage with the threat of beheading? Has this happened in the U.S.? No. It is pure unrealistic fear mongering from the mind of an extremist. Pure babble.

You are kooky.
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Originally posted by geddon97:
Lets see,between the choice of some savage getting his head dunked or my children getting their heads cut off because they will not face Mecca and pray 5 times a day?Hmmmmmmm I think I`ll choose the dunking.Call me kooky but that`s what I think.


Pure hyperbolic, hysterical, over-reaching,reactionary, conjecture based on no reality. Where are these elusive Islamic terrorists holding children hostage with the threat of beheading? Has this happened in the U.S.? No. It is pure unrealistic fear mongering from the mind of an extremist. Pure babble.

You are kooky.
It happened in Russia.Remember the school house that was taken over by Islamic terrorists?Tell you what Mean if your conscience can`t handle it then that`s your problem.But my conscience can handle it. Sorry but Achmed will get a lot of dunks before I feel sorry for him.
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Olbermann Calls Hannity's Bluff: $1000 For Every Second Of Waterboarding (VIDEO).

MSNBC's Keith Olbermann announced on Thursday that he is willing to pay $1,000 to charity for every second that Fox News anchor Sean Hannity undergoes waterboarding torture.

As HuffPost noted yesterday, Hannity was prodded by actor Charles Grodin into agreeing to subject himself to waterboarding to benefit a charity for the families of U.S. soldiers.

On MSNBC tonight, Olbermann called on Hannity to stay true to his word, and argued the benefit of having the arch-conservative pundit tortured would be that he might finally recognize the "deadly seriousness" of the debate over detainee treatment.

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ogerman is himself worthy of urination degradation. Cool
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Originally posted by geddon97:
Lets see,between the choice of some savage getting his head dunked or my children getting their heads cut off because they will not face Mecca and pray 5 times a day?Hmmmmmmm I think I`ll choose the dunking.Call me kooky but that`s what I think.


Pure hyperbolic, hysterical, over-reaching,reactionary, conjecture based on no reality. Where are these elusive Islamic terrorists holding children hostage with the threat of beheading? Has this happened in the U.S.? No. It is pure unrealistic fear mongering from the mind of an extremist. Pure babble.

You are kooky.



I'm usually against anything happening to Americans but when I see such unadulterated stupid statements like that, it would be my wish that people like you all over this county, come face to face with a terrorist someday and if you manage to live through it, you can THEN tell us how "kooky" we are. I don't consider that a mean statement based on the fact that people like you think muslim terrorists are no more of a threat than athlete's foot.
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by geddon97:
Lets see,between the choice of some savage getting his head dunked or my children getting their heads cut off because they will not face Mecca and pray 5 times a day?Hmmmmmmm I think I`ll choose the dunking.Call me kooky but that`s what I think.


Pure hyperbolic, hysterical, over-reaching,reactionary, conjecture based on no reality. Where are these elusive Islamic terrorists holding children hostage with the threat of beheading? Has this happened in the U.S.? No. It is pure unrealistic fear mongering from the mind of an extremist. Pure babble.

You are kooky.



I'm usually against anything happening to Americans but when I see such unadulterated stupid statements like that, it would be my wish that people like you all over this county, come face to face with a terrorist someday and if you manage to live through it, you can THEN tell us how "kooky" we are. I don't consider that a mean statement based on the fact that people like you think muslim terrorists are no more of a threat than athlete's foot.


This is what we have come to expect from the extremist right in this nation. You hope fellow Americans are killed (or injured) in terrorist attacks because we disagree with you - what a guy. Of course you don't consider it "mean" - why would you? Why don't you and some of your crazy cohorts get together and stage some terrorist event - would that not be better than waiting around for some Islamic terrorists to do it for you?

The fact is, my delusional, angry, violent friend, that I share the majority of Americans view of terrorism. We want to protect this nation, but not at the cost of breaking our own treaties, the rule of law and what we know to be moral and just. There is more than one way to achieve a safe and secure homeland. Simply because I don't think torture is moral, or effective, does not mean that I have no regard for the safety of my country. I can tell you this - I would never wish a fellow American citizen to be killed to prove my philosophical point. That would make me no different than a terrorist. Sort of like you. A lousy American.
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by kperk:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by geddon97:
Lets see,between the choice of some savage getting his head dunked or my children getting their heads cut off because they will not face Mecca and pray 5 times a day?Hmmmmmmm I think I`ll choose the dunking.Call me kooky but that`s what I think.


Pure hyperbolic, hysterical, over-reaching,reactionary, conjecture based on no reality. Where are these elusive Islamic terrorists holding children hostage with the threat of beheading? Has this happened in the U.S.? No. It is pure unrealistic fear mongering from the mind of an extremist. Pure babble.

You are kooky.



I'm usually against anything happening to Americans but when I see such unadulterated stupid statements like that, it would be my wish that people like you all over this county, come face to face with a terrorist someday and if you manage to live through it, you can THEN tell us how "kooky" we are. I don't consider that a mean statement based on the fact that people like you think muslim terrorists are no more of a threat than athlete's foot.


This is what we have come to expect from the extremist right in this nation. You hope fellow Americans are killed (or injured) in terrorist attacks because we disagree with you - what a guy. Of course you don't consider it "mean" - why would you? Why don't you and some of your crazy cohorts get together and stage some terrorist event - would that not be better than waiting around for some Islamic terrorists to do it for you?

The fact is, my delusional, angry, violent friend, that I share the majority of Americans view of terrorism. We want to protect this nation, but not at the cost of breaking our own treaties, the rule of law and what we know to be moral and just. There is more than one way to achieve a safe and secure homeland. Simply because I don't think torture is moral, or effective, does not mean that I have no regard for the safety of my country. I can tell you this - I would never wish a fellow American citizen to be killed to prove my philosophical point. That would make me no different than a terrorist. Sort of like you.


Actually some might call it a wake up call.

And it's 50/50 split on waterboarding being torture and the use of it.
Something that seems to be omitted every time this discussion comes up is the fact that during every one of these little interviews, one or more medical doctors was there...you know, in the event that Achmed let a drop of water run down his nostril. Now, you would this Medical doctors, you know, the ones that say, "First do no harm...", would be inclined to speak out if they thought this was PHYSICAL TORTURE...this is intimidation. Give me some statistics on the number of individuals that have died from any of these interrogation methods.
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Originally posted by Chow:
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Originally posted by kperk:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by geddon97:
Lets see,between the choice of some savage getting his head dunked or my children getting their heads cut off because they will not face Mecca and pray 5 times a day?Hmmmmmmm I think I`ll choose the dunking.Call me kooky but that`s what I think.


Pure hyperbolic, hysterical, over-reaching,reactionary, conjecture based on no reality. Where are these elusive Islamic terrorists holding children hostage with the threat of beheading? Has this happened in the U.S.? No. It is pure unrealistic fear mongering from the mind of an extremist. Pure babble.

You are kooky.



I'm usually against anything happening to Americans but when I see such unadulterated stupid statements like that, it would be my wish that people like you all over this county, come face to face with a terrorist someday and if you manage to live through it, you can THEN tell us how "kooky" we are. I don't consider that a mean statement based on the fact that people like you think muslim terrorists are no more of a threat than athlete's foot.


This is what we have come to expect from the extremist right in this nation. You hope fellow Americans are killed (or injured) in terrorist attacks because we disagree with you - what a guy. Of course you don't consider it "mean" - why would you? Why don't you and some of your crazy cohorts get together and stage some terrorist event - would that not be better than waiting around for some Islamic terrorists to do it for you?

The fact is, my delusional, angry, violent friend, that I share the majority of Americans view of terrorism. We want to protect this nation, but not at the cost of breaking our own treaties, the rule of law and what we know to be moral and just. There is more than one way to achieve a safe and secure homeland. Simply because I don't think torture is moral, or effective, does not mean that I have no regard for the safety of my country. I can tell you this - I would never wish a fellow American citizen to be killed to prove my philosophical point. That would make me no different than a terrorist. Sort of like you.


Actually some might call it a wake up call.

And it's 50/50 split on waterboarding being torture and the use of it.


A "wake up call"? To be told by a fellow American that he hopes a terrorist kills or injures me to satisfy a philosophical point? Excuse me? See, this is what I was saying. The right has totally gone into hysterics. It does not surprise me one bit that the likes of YOU would agree. This is dangerous, un-American rhetoric based on a violent extremist view. You should BOTH be ashamed - but of course you are not. When it gets to the point where you wish someone dies - there is nothing else left to say. You are both lunatics.
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Something that seems to be omitted every time this discussion comes up is the fact that during every one of these little interviews, one or more medical doctors was there...you know, in the event that Achmed let a drop of water run down his nostril. Now, you would this Medical doctors, you know, the ones that say, "First do no harm...", would be inclined to speak out if they thought this was PHYSICAL TORTURE...this is intimidation. Give me some statistics on the number of individuals that have died from any of these interrogation methods.


Actually a reasonable question. I am not sure it matters how many people die from torture. What matters is that Americans should not torture. Clearly many on the left and the right share the view that reasonable interrogation techniques can and should be employed. The question is what is "reasonable"? I think it is a discussion we can have without viewing our fellow Americans as "enemies" because we happen to disagree. Unfortunately not everyone accepts a diversity of thought, or one of the basic tenants of democracy - dissent.
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The 2006 Office of the Director of National Intelligence summarizied the plots thwarted by enhanced interrogation techniques.

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I read with interest. Still, should we not investigate and find out what the definition of "enhanced" means? In addition, are we to assume that there is only ONE way to obtain information from terrorists? There seems to be a great deal of disagreement within the intelligence community on this issue. I see no problem in finding out.
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Originally posted by kperk:
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
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Originally posted by geddon97:
Lets see,between the choice of some savage getting his head dunked or my children getting their heads cut off because they will not face Mecca and pray 5 times a day?Hmmmmmmm I think I`ll choose the dunking.Call me kooky but that`s what I think.


Pure hyperbolic, hysterical, over-reaching,reactionary, conjecture based on no reality. Where are these elusive Islamic terrorists holding children hostage with the threat of beheading? Has this happened in the U.S.? No. It is pure unrealistic fear mongering from the mind of an extremist. Pure babble.

You are kooky.



I'm usually against anything happening to Americans but when I see such unadulterated stupid statements like that, it would be my wish that people like you all over this county, come face to face with a terrorist someday and if you manage to live through it, you can THEN tell us how "kooky" we are. I don't consider that a mean statement based on the fact that people like you think muslim terrorists are no more of a threat than athlete's foot.


This is what we have come to expect from the extremist right in this nation. You hope fellow Americans are killed (or injured) in terrorist attacks because we disagree with you - what a guy. Of course you don't consider it "mean" - why would you? Why don't you and some of your crazy cohorts get together and stage some terrorist event - would that not be better than waiting around for some Islamic terrorists to do it for you?

The fact is, my delusional, angry, violent friend, that I share the majority of Americans view of terrorism. We want to protect this nation, but not at the cost of breaking our own treaties, the rule of law and what we know to be moral and just. There is more than one way to achieve a safe and secure homeland. Simply because I don't think torture is moral, or effective, does not mean that I have no regard for the safety of my country. I can tell you this - I would never wish a fellow American citizen to be killed to prove my philosophical point. That would make me no different than a terrorist. Sort of like you. A lousy American.



If you libs would learn to read you would see that I said nothing about hoping anyone would get killed. In your twisted way of thinking, there IS NO CHANCE of being killed by terrorists since they aren't really a threat. Since anyone with common sense knows this to be stupid, it seems the only way for people like you to see the light is to have some personal contact with these "non-threats." If they aren't a threat, why are you thinking you may be hurt? Your logic is quite illogical, snakester.
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Give me some statistics on the number of individuals that have died from any of these interrogation methods.


This, along with the presence of medical experts, by itself, is not proof that something isn't torture. I'm not saying what is or isn't, but a doctor could easily supervise torture - torture even by your definition - and make sure no one died.
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Give me some statistics on the number of individuals that have died from any of these interrogation methods.


This, along with the presence of medical experts, by itself, is not proof that something isn't torture. I'm not saying what is or isn't, but a doctor could easily supervise torture - torture even by your definition - and make sure no one died.


Did you get the part about, "First do NO HARM..."???? I think it is part of the Oath of Hypocrites and Doctors just swear by it... Wink

Snake, you keep resorting to the word torture and that is all that it is, A WORD! You've got your foot on the gas so hard that you miss the significance of significant words. I realize that you have been so saturated with the liberal mssage for so long, convincing you of anything is like baptising your cat...
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Give me some statistics on the number of individuals that have died from any of these interrogation methods.


This, along with the presence of medical experts, by itself, is not proof that something isn't torture. I'm not saying what is or isn't, but a doctor could easily supervise torture - torture even by your definition - and make sure no one died.


You can always tell a liberal Democrat, BUT you can't tell them much... Wink
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Give me some statistics on the number of individuals that have died from any of these interrogation methods.


This, along with the presence of medical experts, by itself, is not proof that something isn't torture. I'm not saying what is or isn't, but a doctor could easily supervise torture - torture even by your definition - and make sure no one died.


You can always tell a liberal Democrat, BUT you can't tell them much... Wink



Their complete lack of any intelligent views on so many issues shows it's purely their hatred for Bush fueling their keyboards.
"This, along with the presence of medical experts, by itself, is not proof that something isn't torture. I'm not saying what is or isn't, but a doctor could easily supervise torture - torture even by your definition - and make sure no one died."

"You can always tell a liberal Democrat, BUT you can't tell them much..."

"Their complete lack of any intelligent views on so many issues shows it's purely their hatred for Bush fueling their keyboards."

1) I am not a Democrat.
2) Please explain how my statement, quoted above, is incorrect or unintelligent.
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Originally posted by dolemitejb:
"This, along with the presence of medical experts, by itself, is not proof that something isn't torture. I'm not saying what is or isn't, but a doctor could easily supervise torture - torture even by your definition - and make sure no one died."

"You can always tell a liberal Democrat, BUT you can't tell them much..."

"Their complete lack of any intelligent views on so many issues shows it's purely their hatred for Bush fueling their keyboards."

1) I am not a Democrat.
2) Please explain how my statement, quoted above, is incorrect or unintelligent.


That ANYONE could compare our methods to the true forms of torture practiced around the world is incomprehensible. I'm not going to go back and state all the methods used by the islamic terrorists and their cohorts. It's getting so redundant. If you want to go far enough off the deep end, you could consider asking questions loudly to be torture.
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Originally posted by kperk:
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Originally posted by geddon97:
Lets see,between the choice of some savage getting his head dunked or my children getting their heads cut off because they will not face Mecca and pray 5 times a day?Hmmmmmmm I think I`ll choose the dunking.Call me kooky but that`s what I think.


Pure hyperbolic, hysterical, over-reaching,reactionary, conjecture based on no reality. Where are these elusive Islamic terrorists holding children hostage with the threat of beheading? Has this happened in the U.S.? No. It is pure unrealistic fear mongering from the mind of an extremist. Pure babble.

You are kooky.



I'm usually against anything happening to Americans but when I see such unadulterated stupid statements like that, it would be my wish that people like you all over this county, come face to face with a terrorist someday and if you manage to live through it, you can THEN tell us how "kooky" we are. I don't consider that a mean statement based on the fact that people like you think muslim terrorists are no more of a threat than athlete's foot.


This is what we have come to expect from the extremist right in this nation. You hope fellow Americans are killed (or injured) in terrorist attacks because we disagree with you - what a guy. Of course you don't consider it "mean" - why would you? Why don't you and some of your crazy cohorts get together and stage some terrorist event - would that not be better than waiting around for some Islamic terrorists to do it for you?

The fact is, my delusional, angry, violent friend, that I share the majority of Americans view of terrorism. We want to protect this nation, but not at the cost of breaking our own treaties, the rule of law and what we know to be moral and just. There is more than one way to achieve a safe and secure homeland. Simply because I don't think torture is moral, or effective, does not mean that I have no regard for the safety of my country. I can tell you this - I would never wish a fellow American citizen to be killed to prove my philosophical point. That would make me no different than a terrorist. Sort of like you. A lousy American.



If you libs would learn to read you would see that I said nothing about hoping anyone would get killed. In your twisted way of thinking, there IS NO CHANCE of being killed by terrorists since they aren't really a threat. Since anyone with common sense knows this to be stupid, it seems the only way for people like you to see the light is to have some personal contact with these "non-threats." If they aren't a threat, why are you thinking you may be hurt? Your logic is quite illogical, snakester.


Ha! This from one who finds the idea of his fellow Americans being killed in a terrorist act as a potential "learning experience". You are an extremist - end of story. I am finished with you. Please continue - you do the Republican Party real proud.

"it would be my wish that people like you all over this county, come face to face with a terrorist someday and if you manage to live through it, you can THEN tell us how "kooky" we are."

There is no mistaking the intent of this remark.

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