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Originally posted by themax:
I think a tornado took away half of the old 43 lounge. And also half of the old Tonys. The old Tonys is now Parkers. I'm not sure if it the same Parker that had the club in Minor Hill Tn.


Gosh, I didn't know that!!! And I am not sure about the Minor Hill Parkers either...

Can't get off topic with this forum Wink
And if one were really feeling adventurious, the was a place in Columbia called "The Other Place". Some friends of mine knew the DJ up there. He had quite a setup. A glass booth overlooking the dance floor. Big Grin what a place for a young boy to be.
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Originally posted by themax:
And if one were really feeling adventurious, the was a place in Columbia called "The Other Place". Some friends of mine knew the DJ up there. He had quite a setup. A glass booth overlooking the dance floor. Big Grin what a place for a young boy to be.


Never did go there, but sure sounds nice!
The Parker up 43 and the one up in Minor Hill are the same. I don't think he still owns the Minor Hill location anymore.

The Bomb of the Tennessee State line clubs used to be Johnny's Club. They had an great UNA night (Thursday). That was back when there were only a few places for people to go. All classes of folks had to go there to party. Now there are so many different places that the party atmosphere is not the same.
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Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
The Parker up 43 and the one up in Minor Hill are the same. I don't think he still owns the Minor Hill location anymore.

The Bomb of the Tennessee State line clubs used to be Johnny's Club. They had an great UNA night (Thursday). That was back when there were only a few places for people to go. All classes of folks had to go there to party. Now there are so many different places that the party atmosphere is not the same.


*sigh*... I remember the night Johnny got killed... we were in the ER, my Sister-In-Law was checking in to give birth to my nephew. Wow, what a crowd!!! It was so sad. I didn't know him, but couldn't help but cry myself!
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Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
Johnny Hood was a bank robber. He and a gang of bandits used to rob banks around this area. He was laid to rest in a red velvet casket at his own request. All of his gang members wound up killing each other. It made the FBI's job easy.


I wasn't judging him, YO. I just know the 'feeling' I had when they wheeled him into the ER and the blood was absolutly soaking everyone and everything.... what was supposed to be a great night for my brother's family was dampened by what we had to see while we were checking her in.

I don't care what he WAS, even the Bible says that "The wages of Sin is death"... so I shall not judge anyone for what they do. Or I shall TRY not to, anyway... I am human and fall short of that mark sometimes.



OKAY OKAY OKAY, I went back and started NEW on this post, and saw where beretta got that comment... and correct me if you will with YOUR take... that is fine, but like I said earlier... Johnny Hood may have been bad to the bone, but the wages of sin is death... there is a LOT of people walking around in spiritual death RIGHT NOW, and haven't even died... you think they have paid their wages for sin????? INTERESTING... wonder what faith you associate with?
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Originally posted by themax:
Yep, part of the South Tn. moffa. Maybe had a hand in the walking tall thing. Who knows?


Yeap, it could have been Johnny Hood or Dewitt Dawson. I have the book the STATE LINE MOB by W.R. Morris. He also wrote THE TWELFTH of AUGUST. He does not go into who killed Buford Pusser but it is a good read. Those were the good old day's.

I was up in Adamsville, TN a couple of weeks ago and I stopped in at the Buford Pusser home and museum. I wanted to purchase a copy of Walking Tall(the first one) but they didn't have any copies due to a law suit. The will get 20 copies after the first of the year. They are also making a new Walking Tall that will star the guy that play's Hercules.
Johnny's Club int eh early 70's....what memories! Willard Posey Reunion, Travis Wammack....
I first knew him as a neighbor in Florence then later at the club. And yea, he had a rough gangster side, but he also had a generous, good guy side.
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Originally posted by �bermensch:
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Dewitt Dawson


Was this guy one of the infamous Dawson gang I heard about growing up (although before my time)?


Oh yeah, Dewitt and the Dawson gang... but they mostly lived in Colbert County, either out in Spring Valley or close to Littleville (or somewhere out in there) and they were bad in their day, a long long time ago. If I remember correctly, Dewitt died in prison, or shortly after he was released. Even as old as I am, I don't remember it all. Gambling, bootlegging, and a little of this, and a lot of that and loads of money... Wish Dewitt had written a book.
I'm with Max on the Dawson's, NUFF SAID! As for Johnney Hood being a bank robber, don't know where you got that info Brotha, knew him and Shelby both and never knew of bank robbery. Don't know for sure of ALL his activities, but I never heard of him robbing a bank. Max I bet you remember Miss Bess at Johnneys and no one has mention EDDY'S PLACE across the street. Todd Eddy was killed by his ex-wife or girlfriend or something like that recently, hated to read about it, he was one hell of a nice guy. Those were the GOOD OL DAYS!
Those were the days. I knew Johnny and Shelby. I went to school with Shelby's son, who was a couple of years younger than me, and was at their home a few times. Miss Bess' nephew is my friend and her brother, ***, was my father's best friend. I grew up just north of "The Line".

I went to all those clubs.....Johnny's, Todd's, Club 13, Circle E, 43 Club and Tony's all come to mind. I remember we had fun with a couple of bands, Jackson Highway and Cashmere, we first met at the clubs.

I seem to recall hearing people talk about Johnny and bank robbery but haven't thought about that for years.

Good ol' days indeed.
Johnny
Had a reputation for being less than friendly on many of occassion with the individuals who wanted to stir up trouble in his club..
He was known to take the law into his own hands..and let the coroner be in charge of the clean up...
Johnny gave no quarter...and in the end...he got none...
The shooter was never identified or arrested to the best of my knowledge...
There were not too many people crying when he met his waterloo...
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Originally posted by traderconnections:
Dewitt..
lived at the foot of Lagrange Mountain...and did not die in prison...however, several of his kin came to an abrupt end..
If Dewitt like you...you could not have better friend...but...well you know the rest...
Yes you are on the money. One story I can tell in part is how a truck {18 wheeler} got stuck in the backwoods of $#%% a person who had a dozer got the call and pulled it out. He was going to do it for free, people were like that back then, but Dewitt would not hear of it.He opened his glove box and it was FULL of 100$ bills. He just grabbed a few and stuck them in the guys pocket, and told him if he ever needed anything to let him know.
Yes if he liked you, you knew it if he didn't then you are not reading this.
Does anyone remember the Line/Lion right across the TN state line? We would go there after about noon on Fridays in college. I can't remember if the name was The Line or The Lion. It was pretty much a dive with a big deck on back with picnic tables. They sold these huge bottles of beer- I can't think of what you call them. Quarts, maybe? Many a frat boy did I see lean over the railing on the deck and hurl all the beer he had just drank. LOL!! Even though the weekend didn't officially start until Friday, most of us began on Thursday. Weekends were just too much fun to limit to 2 days! What is funny is we still went there even after Florence became wet. That was a good 30 minute drive. Man, we did some stupid things when we were young.
That sounds like what "Bumpers" is now. I used to go there in the early 80's, but alcohol has killed the cells that retain such information and in the former nameSmiler I was a regular at Johnny's on Thursday's UNA night and would go over to B's Place to hear Jackson Highway or some other live band. We them went to the "private" Club 13 where out of work union guys from the Shoals tended bar until 2A and then headed down Chisholm, dodging State Troopers and the ST Florian policeman who always hid in the same place.
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Originally posted by Tons_O_Fun:
That sounds like what "Bumpers" is now. I used to go there in the early 80's, but alcohol has killed the cells that retain such information and in the former nameSmiler I was a regular at Johnny's on Thursday's UNA night and would go over to B's Place to hear Jackson Highway or some other live band. We them went to the "private" Club 13 where out of work union guys from the Shoals tended bar until 2A and then headed down Chisholm, dodging State Troopers and the ST Florian policeman who always hid in the same place.
Which line are you talking about?
Up 43 North of Greenhill? Parkers was the place to be on Friday or Saturday nights back in my day.

If you went up to Iron City then you'd stop off at Bumper's first and then continue up to Little Sands. Be in before 12 because after that it was OUT only (unless you were a "member").

Head up Savannah Hwy and stop off at the Starlight (that is where I slung beer) or go on over to BB's.

Things always seemed to be more fun in Tennessee...
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Originally posted by ppb:
Did Dewitt become a preacher in the Church of Christ before he died?

Did any of ya'll know Toehead White from Corinth, MS?


Am pretty sure Dewitt was a Baptist and was buried by a Baptist minister in a Baptist cemetery. The TD did write up his wedding anniversary in a big way just before he died.
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Originally posted by M9Beretta:
"The wages of Sin is death"... Kind Red Spirit If you'll check around, I think the "death" referred to in your quote, is generally considered a spiritual death.



LOL, here I am reading all about the line, and out of the blue, here comes your comment... and thanks for your take on it... but mine stays the same.. The wages of sin is death.... pure and simple...

Although religious, I do not believe there is a HELL either... for various reasons I won't go into here... I don't want to spoil the fun of everyone's memories of their party days...

And you can be a smart aleck if ya want about my nickname, I find it rather amusing Smiler Thanks Smiler
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
quote:
Originally posted by M9Beretta:
"The wages of Sin is death"... Kind Red Spirit If you'll check around, I think the "death" referred to in your quote, is generally considered a spiritual death.



LOL, here I am reading all about the line, and out of the blue, here comes your comment... and thanks for your take on it... but mine stays the same.. The wages of sin is death.... pure and simple...

Although religious, I do not believe there is a HELL either... for various reasons I won't go into here... I don't want to spoil the fun of everyone's memories of their party days...

And you can be a smart aleck if ya want about my nickname, I find it rather amusing Smiler Thanks Smiler


Actually it's both. Since all men are sinners all will die a natural death, this is the first death. The original sin condemns us all but personally we are each sinners by nature, choice and practice. Hence the scriptures say " there is none good no not one"

The second death for those who do not believe the Gospel is a spiritual death and results in judgment of all the sins of the flesh and condemnation. Hence the scriptures say " He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death."
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Originally posted by ppb:
Did Dewitt become a preacher in the Church of Christ before he died?

Did any of ya'll know Toehead White from Corinth, MS?




No Dewitt did not become a preacher. Dewitt died while mowing his grass at home.

Yes, Toehead White and my mother were both borne in 1920 and in Mickie TN. Mother said he was a mean kid growing up. He never bothered her but he was mean. I met him once when I was about 10 years old.

He was shot and killed and know one knows who did it although Buford Pusser is suspect by some.
I think you're thinking about Jack Hath****. He was born in 1920 at Michie. He owned the Shamrock on the TN-MS stateline a little north of Corinth. He was killed in 1964 by his ex wife Louise. She said he beat & attempted to rape her. She shot him several times.

Toehead White was born in the MS Delta around Sumner. He was born in 1936. He was killed in 1969 in Corinth in front of the El-Ray Motel. He had just come from Dewitt Dawson's. They say he & Dewitt were real tight. A cop told me that Pusser tried to take credit for his murder, but it wasn't him.

If I'm not mistaken, Dewitt's brother Donald, was arrested with Toehead in connection with a big still in Toshmingo County, MS. I think that was in 1965.

I understand that Toehead & Dewitt would rob high stake poker games.
Lord, you guys make me miss home. I was telling people at work last night/this morning that people at home (and I include Athens, Huntsville, Decatur) don't just kill people. We kill 'em in imaginative ways so we can hand down the legend from generation to generation. BBQ killers, poisoning their food, killing them and locking them in the backroom of our houses for months. I love it.
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Originally posted by ppb:
I think you're thinking about Jack Hath****. He was born in 1920 at Michie. He owned the Shamrock on the TN-MS stateline a little north of Corinth. He was killed in 1964 by his ex wife Louise. She said he beat & attempted to rape her. She shot him several times.

Toehead White was born in the MS Delta around Sumner. He was born in 1936. He was killed in 1969 in Corinth in front of the El-Ray Motel. He had just come from Dewitt Dawson's. They say he & Dewitt were real tight. A cop told me that Pusser tried to take credit for his murder, but it wasn't him.

If I'm not mistaken, Dewitt's brother Donald, was arrested with Toehead in connection with a big still in Toshmingo County, MS. I think that was in 1965.

I understand that Toehead & Dewitt would rob high stake poker games.


You maybe correct, my mother is unable to communicate do to a stroke so I can't ask her.I was just going on a 45 year old memory. I do remember those names.

The guy I'm thinking of was shot from atop of a building and no one knows who fired the shot.
Toehead was shot from the roof of the El-Ray Motel. Some people say he was shot from a room. Junior Smith was arrested for it, but I don't think he was ever charged.

Toehead had just come from Dewitt's & they say that they had a shooting match in one of Dewitt's liqor warehouses. Toehead was with Shirley Smith, Junior's wife.
I think Donald is the one that was arrested with Toehead White when that big still in Toshmingo County, MS was raided. They originally set that still up in McNairy County, TN where Buford Pusser was the newly elected sheriff. He & Toehead had met in Chicago & really hit it off. I hear that Pusser was supposed to get a cut of the profits. He told them to get that still out of McNairy when the ATF was snooping around. They say that Pusser snitched on them so Toehead would go to prison. They say Pusser wanted control at the TN-MS stateline.
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Originally posted by bluesman *:
Dewitt, also had other brothers, Homer Gene, Donald, Bobby, Howard, Ray and Pride.


There was a guy I knew, by way of many mutual friends, who hung out in our circle very often. By no means would I call him a friend, but we were around each other a lot through those other folks. At some point, he decided to take on a second job as a bounty hunter for a local bail bond place.

He was big and gruff and burly, and he often bragged about chasing folks down and being able to win that barfight. I pretty much ignored him until one day when he told us he was heading out that night to find [insert name here]. It was one of the Dawsons he was looking for, the more serious one that had a take-no-prisoners attitude.

I told him he should reconsider, and then I promised myself not to ever, ever, EVER be in the same room with him again, because you never know when... The next time I saw him (and only by coincidence), he was in a hospital emergency room with a pretty serious injury. Bless his heart, he should have known better.
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Originally posted by bluesman *:
FV,
Dewitt was a member of the COC, IRS charges was back in 08/71 for evaded taxes. The article in the Times Daily by then reporter Rusty Cone, story title "Coin Flip Decided Guilty Plea: Dawson". Former F.B.I. agent and latter Morgan County Sheriff Steve Crabb was part of the investigation. Both of whom Dewitt and Crabb that whom I knew real will. Long history behind this, along with the old Western Truck Stop. Enough said.


Mea Culpa. I once knew a woman who was a Dawson before she married--not sure if she was Dewitt's niece or cousin. She once said he was a Baptist and she was glad of it, all things considered. I am glad to know he was reformed in whatever way he was before he died.
Toehead White, often mistakenly called Towhead, was named for his fighting style, toe to the head. He is the bad guy in the Walking Tall movies, although more fiction than truth. He was a friend of Dewitt and he did leave there the night he was killed in front of El-Ray motel in Corinth. Story is he and Dewitt were trying to shoot out a light bulb behind Dewitts house and he was very intoxicated. He stopped at the Muscle Shoals truck stop and ate catfish. He was with Jr Smiths wife and most believe she got him to give her his gun. They were good friends and Toehead was brought to Corinth by the Smiths. Most likely story is Buford had Toehead killed because he always believed Toehead was the person that put out the contract where his wife was killed and Bufords jaw was blowed away. There were four guys in the car and within a couple weeks after Buford left office 3 of the 4 met untimely deaths. 2 in Texas and 1 in Boston Harbor. The lucky dude still alive was in prison. Buford and Toehead had several incidents of trying to kill each other. As usual, it seems there was a hooker they both liked.
I know a cop in the know & he knows everything(practically everything) that went on in the Dixie Mafia. He said that Pusser was at the Thunderbird Motel in Jackson, TN with his girlfriend the night Toehead was killed. He said that informants told him that Pusser bragged about getting rid of Toehead & tried to take credit for it, but it wasn't Pusser.

He told me that Pusser had nothing to do with the deaths of the other men. He said that Pusser was into about every vice there was.

Toehead & Pusser were both messing around with the same underage black girl. They say she was hot & still is. She was supposedly light skinned, almost Creole looking. Her dad or uncle owned a joint near Guys, TN in McNairy County. I think the joint was called Willie B's.
The last time I seen Dewitt was at a now deceased mans house in the Town Creek area about 10 years ago. His hair was solid gray or white. Dewitt tried to con me with a card trick. I called him on it and all I had was $25.00. Dewitt pulled out $5000.00 and told me I had to make the wager more interesting. I could not so I did not make the bet. He then gave me a pink colored hit of speed and told me it was what he used to get up and go. He also told me that he had been bared from several casinos in Tunica. He was a card shark for sure.
I saw a picture of Dewitt from the 1960's when he was young in WR Morris' book called the Stateline Mob.

They say most women thought Toehead White was a Greek god & that all women loved him. I heard that Dewitt had plenty of women as well.

Toehead was also known to get pilled up as well.
Wow this really brings back some memories. Whan I was a boy, Pride Dawson was on trial for murder. They even had an article about it one of those "true crime" magazines. My mother was called for jury duty and was scared to death she would get picked. Fortunately seh did not. She said that Dewitt stood outside the courtroom and told the jurors that if his brother was convicted he would come looking for them. Pride was convicted anyway.

When I was a teenager I worked for a local furniture store. I delivered a bunch of furniture to Homer Gene's place. Like someone said earlier, there wasn't a nicer bunch of folks around if you didn't get on their bad side. A few months after my delivery Homer Gene was going to rob a bank but the FBI was tipped off. They shot him with a 12 gauge when he came through the door. The Times Daily later quoted Dewith as saying he didn't now why the FBI shot his brother, he was just going in the bank to cash a check.

Dewitt's son, Billy Ray, had the reputation of being the baddest guy around when I was growing up. I heard he got in a fight with a black kid at Colbert County High School. The black kid got arrested. Rumor was that Dewitt paid the kid's bail but the kid was scared to leave the jail.
As I recall, the guy Pride murdered was from out of town and they were playing cards. I'm not sure how long Pride was in prison.

Homer Gene survived.

As far as legitimate jobs, Dewitt was quoted in the paper one time saying he was a professional gambler. My daddy was quite a card player and was was at a game on night and Dewitt showed up. Daddy said he was nopt impressed with Dewitt's card playing skills. Dewitt just made huge bets and scared everybody else out o fth game.
I had heard that Toehead White & Dewitt would rob poker games together.

A cop told me that he thought one of the Dawson's was one legged or walked with a limp. Do you know anything about that?

Did the Dawson's have any whiskey stills?
Ok, now just give me a man named Toehead (I am just imagining how he got that particular name) and I'm absolutely convinced he would be nothing short of a Greek god. I can't imagine having CONVERSATIONAL intercourse with Toehead, much less any other kind. How could you keep from snickering?
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Originally posted by ppb:
Did he sell drugs?



Pick a response:

I would dare speculate that you won't get an answer to this question from anyone who knows, because those folks know better than to answer such questions.

Or...

No, he didn't.
Everyone in Corinth says that when Toehead came into town that the women would flock around him like Elvis. This cop told me that all women loved him. He was also one of the top criminals in the southeast. He was in on the Gypsy Camp Robbery. He was also buddies with Bill Clubb & Kirksey Nix--2 Dixie Mafia heavyweights. The FBI files on Toehead are enormous & they started photographing him in the 1960's.

Someone told me that Toehead had a screen test in Hollywood.

Toehead also killed George Fuqua & Doris Grooms after he got out of federal prison.
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Originally posted by vick13:
I'm telling you. I'd pay just to see that name in marquis lights: Starring John Wayne and Toehead.


The Dawson's would indeed make a very good AND interesting movie!!! But too bad Duke cannot be the star... wonder who else could do it? hmmmmmmmmmmm.......
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Originally posted by e:
My vote would have been for Steve McQueen.


Oh he would have been a good one too... but what about a modern day movie, with actors who are alive, lol... I have sit here and thought and thought and thought about it, and knowing what the Dawson's LOOKED like, I cannot think of any modern day marvels who could do it up right... Harrison Ford and Tommy Lee Jones are the only two who come to mind.
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Originally posted by Go Nads:
One of the Soprano's characters might work.

or Billy Bob Thorton


I thought of the Soprano's, and they would be probably the best... not too sure about BBThornton though, he don't seem to quite fit, but he is an actor, he could MAKE himself fit, lol.
George Clooney for Toehead. AS much as I love Tommy Lee, he's getting too old to be too rowdy any more. Billy Bob is white trashy enough. Maybe old fat beady eyed ponytailed Steven Segal? Naturally, he'd have to wear that long gown they put him in now. It really hides his weight gain well, don't you think? Mel Gibson is looking haggard enough but still good looking, how bout him?
Notice the spelling of Towhead White


The State Line Mob was an association of criminal elements that operated in the 1950's and 1960's at the Mississippi-Tennessee state line in Alcorn County, Mississippi and McNairy County, Tennessee along U.S. Route 45. The State Line Mob was involved in bootlegging, gambling, prostitution, tourist fleecing, robbery, and murder. Many of the members were from Phenix City, Alabama, having been displaced from that town when martial law was declared and the United States Army attempted to clean the town up.
The organization owned and operated motels, restaurants, and clubs at the Mississippi-Tennessee state line and in the southern portion of Alcorn County, just south of Corinth, Mississippi. These establishments were centers for every form of vice and reaped hundreds of thousands of dollars from sales of illegal moonshine and other contraband products. Primary owners were Jack and Louise Hath****, Carl Douglas "Towhead" White, and W.O. Hath****.
The State Line Mob gained national attention throughout the 1960's for its ongoing feud with famed McNairy County Sheriff Buford Pusser. The film Walking Tall and its sequels were based on Pusser's war against the State Line Mob and other criminal elements.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Line_Mob



Drive-By Truckers wrote songs about the events surrounding Pusser's wife's death and his colorful tenure as sheriff. Most notably, The Dirty South contained three consecutive songs, "The Boys from Alabama", "Cottonseed" and "The Buford Stick", that purported to tell "the other side of that story".

· Pusser's predecessor as sheriff, James Dickey, died in a car accident about two weeks before the 1964 election.
· During his tenure as Sheriff, Pusser was shot eight times and stabbed seven.
· The Buford Pusser Museum has been established at the house where he was living at the time of his death in 1974.
· Each May, there is a Buford Pusser Festival in his hometown of Adamsville, Tennessee.
· George McGann, one of Pauline Pusser's murderers, was the husband of Beverly Oliver who in 1970 claimed that she was the famously mysterious Babushka Lady who appears with her own movie camera in the Zapruder film of the actual Kennedy Assassination.
· Parents: Carl Pusser, was the Police Chief of Adamsville, Tennessee, and Helen Pusser.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buford_Pusser
Toehead was dark headed & brown eyed. He was about 6'2" & weighed around 185. He was muscular. He pumped weights in prison. Many women said he was downright pretty.

He got the name Toehead because of his fighting style. They say he could kick somebody in the head 3 or 4 times before they even knew the fight was on. Toe to the head.

He wore expensive suits. Many people thought that he was a wimpy pretty boy until they got their clocks cleaned. A guy told me that he saw him whip 3 guys at a joint near Drew, MS in the MS Delta one night.

I saw an FBI report where he got in a fight outside the Plantation Club in Corinth, MS with a golden gloves boxer. Toehead beat him so bad that his eyeball was hanging out on his cheek.

The Dixie Mafia book has a whole chapter dedicated to him & it claims that he never lost a fight. I was told by a cop that he had gotten beat down pretty bad in Parchman Prison a couple of times.
You have to watch that book called the Stateline Mob. Morris got a lot of his facts wrong. It talks about Dewitt in there & shows his picture. He looks real young. I think he said that Dawson was one of Alabama's most sought after outlaws. They say Toehead & Dewitt were real tight & that both were ladies men.

Have ya'll ever heard anything about a Balentine-Dawson feud? I think the Balentine's were from Tennessee. I have heard that Dewitt's wife's maiden name was Balentine. Do ya'll know if that's true?
That book also said that Dewitt & Toehead would rob high stake poker games in Northern Alabama. It said that rich farmers, doctors, lawyers & bankers would be there.

A cop told me that Toehead & some others made off with several hundred thousand from a poker game they robbed in the MS Delta.

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