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More accuse Biden of inappropriate contact.  One thing that comes with polling at the top of the potential 2020 Democratic candidate list is the rest of the pack's supporters will come gunning for you and today there's no better way to discredit a candidate or potential candidate than accuse them of sexual misconduct or racism.  In this case it's the left eating their own and Biden, by polling at the top of potential 2020 candidates, becomes the top target for the other candidates.  I'm sure though that the fact that the first accuser is a huge Bernie Sanders supporter has nothing to do with her decision to come forward and make such accusations about Biden.  

Frankly I can see where Biden's conduct may be perceived as uncomfortable contact by some and he should be more aware but I truly don't believe he had any nefarious intent to attempt to grope or fondle any of these women and I don't think he would have done it if he knew it offended them.  Should it be a reason to disqualify him as a candidate?  I don't believe so and in fact I hope he stays in and fights against it.  Let the circular firing squads begin.

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simple Biden isn't the choice of the democrat elite.  thus discredit him.  I still don't understand why democrat voters put up with the "party" making decisions for them.  Why the except the super delegates vote out weighs the real voters.  I remember republican "party" tried to do that against Trump and voters raised a big fuss.   Both parties are the swamp in DC.   

1130 posted:

simple Biden isn't the choice of the democrat elite.  thus discredit him.  I still don't understand why democrat voters put up with the "party" making decisions for them.  Why the except the super delegates vote out weighs the real voters.  I remember republican "party" tried to do that against Trump and voters raised a big fuss.   Both parties are the swamp in DC.   

Think about what you just said ... it's so typical and predictable.  Given the socalism that they seem to be promoting so often and even Communism they want the Government to make all decisions for them so why not expect the party to do the exact same thing.  Also with respect to the "super delegates" their negating the votes of their party members is akin to the electorial college or I assume that's why they set it up.  Trouble is they don't understand the Electrorial College and want to get rid of it yet they are wanting to keep and suppor the super delegates.  

gbrk posted:
1130 posted:

simple Biden isn't the choice of the democrat elite.  thus discredit him.  I still don't understand why democrat voters put up with the "party" making decisions for them.  Why the except the super delegates vote out weighs the real voters.  I remember republican "party" tried to do that against Trump and voters raised a big fuss.   Both parties are the swamp in DC.   

Think about what you just said ... it's so typical and predictable.  Given the socalism that they seem to be promoting so often and even Communism they want the Government to make all decisions for them so why not expect the party to do the exact same thing.  Also with respect to the "super delegates" their negating the votes of their party members is akin to the electorial college or I assume that's why they set it up.  Trouble is they don't understand the Electrorial College and want to get rid of it yet they are wanting to keep and suppor the super delegates.  

I've never seen a Republican tell how Democrats think, and get it right.

Republicans tell us how Republicans would think, and blame it on the Democrats.

You can't make this stuff up.

No shades of gray with you, there are Democrats and Republicans no consideration for Independents, Libertarians or anyone else.  I consider myself a Conservative Independent that has voted overwhelmingly Republican of late since the Democrats can't seem to field a decent candidate or someone who could be confused for honoring the Constitution and our 'rights as citizens.  Doug Jones is the last Democrat that I would say I voted for and that's only because I chose not to vote in that election so a no vote favored the person that actually won ... hence a vote for Jones.  

If Jones had separated himself from the pack and proved that he could make an independent decision instead of voting straight line with the Democrats every time proving (at least to me) that if I vote for Doug Jones I'm voting for Chuck Schumer, I'd consider actually voting for him.  As it is I've only seen Doug Jones voting lock step with Chuck Schumer and what the (National Party) Democrats want him to do rather than proving he is a Democrat Party represenative than someone that votes his convictions and concerns for the citizens of Alabama.

So I guess I am a Republican ... because I sure don't want to be construed or mistaken for being a 2019 Democrat.

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gbrk posted:

No shades of gray with you, there are Democrats and Republicans no consideration for Independents, Libertarians or anyone else.  I consider myself a Conservative Independent that has voted overwhelmingly Republican of late since the Democrats can't seem to field a decent candidate or someone who could be confused for honoring the Constitution and our 'rights as citizens.  Doug Jones is the last Democrat that I would say I voted for and that's only because I chose not to vote in that election so a no vote favored the person that actually won ... hence a vote for Jones.  

If Jones had separated himself from the pack and proved that he could make an independent decision instead of voting straight line with the Democrats every time proving (at least to me) that if I vote for Doug Jones I'm voting for Chuck Schumer, I'd consider actually voting for him.  As it is I've only seen Doug Jones voting lock step with Chuck Schumer and what the (National Party) Democrats want him to do rather than proving he is a Democrat Party represenative than someone that votes his convictions and concerns for the citizens of Alabama.

So I guess I am a Republican ... because I sure don't want to be construed or mistaken for being a 2019 Democrat.

There are no 'shades of gray' in any statements you make. Republicans wonderful, Democrats evil. I'm sorry if you don't like being talked to the way you talk to others. I just figured you were treating other as you wished to be treated.

L. Cranston posted:
gbrk posted:

No shades of gray with you, there are Democrats and Republicans no consideration for Independents, Libertarians or anyone else.  I consider myself a Conservative Independent that has voted overwhelmingly Republican of late since the Democrats can't seem to field a decent candidate or someone who could be confused for honoring the Constitution and our 'rights as citizens.  Doug Jones is the last Democrat that I would say I voted for and that's only because I chose not to vote in that election so a no vote favored the person that actually won ... hence a vote for Jones.  

If Jones had separated himself from the pack and proved that he could make an independent decision instead of voting straight line with the Democrats every time proving (at least to me) that if I vote for Doug Jones I'm voting for Chuck Schumer, I'd consider actually voting for him.  As it is I've only seen Doug Jones voting lock step with Chuck Schumer and what the (National Party) Democrats want him to do rather than proving he is a Democrat Party represenative than someone that votes his convictions and concerns for the citizens of Alabama.

So I guess I am a Republican ... because I sure don't want to be construed or mistaken for being a 2019 Democrat.

There are no 'shades of gray' in any statements you make. Republicans wonderful, Democrats evil. I'm sorry if you don't like being talked to the way you talk to others. I just figured you were treating other as you wished to be treated.

"the way I talk to others"?  Please ... citations or references.  Please, since you made the accusation please provide the proof of your statement?  If I have been dogmatic about you or others and been wrong please provide the evidence.  

Then again maybe the accusation is all that's necessary and evidence isn't needed.  That does tend to be the way many news media outlets and some folks in the Democratic party operate these days.  Then again many horses went around content and happy as a clam as long as they maintained their blinders on and their narrow little world was very sufficient for them.

gbrk posted:
L. Cranston posted:
gbrk posted:

No shades of gray with you, there are Democrats and Republicans no consideration for Independents, Libertarians or anyone else.  I consider myself a Conservative Independent that has voted overwhelmingly Republican of late since the Democrats can't seem to field a decent candidate or someone who could be confused for honoring the Constitution and our 'rights as citizens.  Doug Jones is the last Democrat that I would say I voted for and that's only because I chose not to vote in that election so a no vote favored the person that actually won ... hence a vote for Jones.  

If Jones had separated himself from the pack and proved that he could make an independent decision instead of voting straight line with the Democrats every time proving (at least to me) that if I vote for Doug Jones I'm voting for Chuck Schumer, I'd consider actually voting for him.  As it is I've only seen Doug Jones voting lock step with Chuck Schumer and what the (National Party) Democrats want him to do rather than proving he is a Democrat Party represenative than someone that votes his convictions and concerns for the citizens of Alabama.

So I guess I am a Republican ... because I sure don't want to be construed or mistaken for being a 2019 Democrat.

There are no 'shades of gray' in any statements you make. Republicans wonderful, Democrats evil. I'm sorry if you don't like being talked to the way you talk to others. I just figured you were treating other as you wished to be treated.

"the way I talk to others"?  Please ... citations or references.  Please, since you made the accusation please provide the proof of your statement?  If I have been dogmatic about you or others and been wrong please provide the evidence.  

Then again maybe the accusation is all that's necessary and evidence isn't needed.  That does tend to be the way many news media outlets and some folks in the Democratic party operate these days.  Then again many horses went around content and happy as a clam as long as they maintained their blinders on and their narrow little world was very sufficient for them.

What? You don't know what you typed on the forums? You have zero to say about Democrats unless you're demonizing them and then tell us about the wonderful Republicans. I don't need to give you links to your own statements. You know how you post and feel about Democrats. As I've said before, Republicans are perfectly fine with electing Putin over a Democrat and I showed you proof of that statement. We're to a point in American Politics where one Party would support Putin over the other Party. I'll just let that speak for itself.

gbrk posted:

No shades of gray with you, there are Democrats and Republicans no consideration for Independents, Libertarians or anyone else.  I consider myself a Conservative Independent that has voted overwhelmingly Republican of late since the Democrats can't seem to field a decent candidate or someone who could be confused for honoring the Constitution and our 'rights as citizens.  Doug Jones is the last Democrat that I would say I voted for and that's only because I chose not to vote in that election so a no vote favored the person that actually won ... hence a vote for Jones.  

If Jones had separated himself from the pack and proved that he could make an independent decision instead of voting straight line with the Democrats every time proving (at least to me) that if I vote for Doug Jones I'm voting for Chuck Schumer, I'd consider actually voting for him.  As it is I've only seen Doug Jones voting lock step with Chuck Schumer and what the (National Party) Democrats want him to do rather than proving he is a Democrat Party represenative than someone that votes his convictions and concerns for the citizens of Alabama.

So I guess I am a Republican ... because I sure don't want to be construed or mistaken for being a 2019 Democrat.

Doug Jones needs to resign and go away. He stood by while the left ran false ads about Moore, than said he approved them. Then when proof came out,  of the tampering in the election by libs, paid for by a wealthy dem donor, not a peep from the little troll Jones.

giftedamateur posted:
gbrk posted:

No shades of gray with you, there are Democrats and Republicans no consideration for Independents, Libertarians or anyone else.  I consider myself a Conservative Independent that has voted overwhelmingly Republican of late since the Democrats can't seem to field a decent candidate or someone who could be confused for honoring the Constitution and our 'rights as citizens.  Doug Jones is the last Democrat that I would say I voted for and that's only because I chose not to vote in that election so a no vote favored the person that actually won ... hence a vote for Jones.  

If Jones had separated himself from the pack and proved that he could make an independent decision instead of voting straight line with the Democrats every time proving (at least to me) that if I vote for Doug Jones I'm voting for Chuck Schumer, I'd consider actually voting for him.  As it is I've only seen Doug Jones voting lock step with Chuck Schumer and what the (National Party) Democrats want him to do rather than proving he is a Democrat Party represenative than someone that votes his convictions and concerns for the citizens of Alabama.

So I guess I am a Republican ... because I sure don't want to be construed or mistaken for being a 2019 Democrat.

Doug Jones needs to resign and go away. He stood by while the left ran false ads about Moore, than said he approved them. Then when proof came out,  of the tampering in the election by libs, paid for by a wealthy dem donor, not a peep from the little troll Jones.

Can you provide proof of Jones knew about the ads? No! I can provide proof of election fraud, by Republicans.  You can't prove your statement because it's a lie. When do Republicans stop the lies and join reality.

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