oreily had a good point.

Actually, we lefts LOVE it. Geraldo nailed it! O'Reilly is exposed in this clip as the bigot he is.

Hey, I consider myself to the right slightly, and I think Geraldo had him.

but, the man was illegal, unlawful, and drunk, that deserves severe punishment. im for truth and justice. are you?

Yes, "Open Border Geraldo" is an proponent of illegal or criminal aliens! O'Reilly was correct and there is know other way to look at it if you are an a true law abiding "Red, White and Blue American".

I guess you are a Bigot if you try to enforce the immigration laws...lets just say they were white and illegal..does that still make us a bigot..?

ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL REGARDLESS OF RACE OR COLOR..!!

In America when someone calls another a bigot, 99% of the time it is because the person doing the name calling is ignorant to the facts. They usually have no grounds for their comment.

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Originally posted by Go Nads:
In America when someone calls another a bigot, 99% of the time it is because the person doing the name calling is ignorant to the facts. They usually have no grounds for their comment.

O'Reilly is the Enquirer Tabloid King of Fox .... he is an idiot, just as Rush is.

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Originally posted by Go Nads:
In America when someone calls another a bigot, 99% of the time it is because the person doing the name calling is ignorant to the facts. They usually have no grounds for their comment.

In some cases, maybe, but it is no where anywhere near 99%.

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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:

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Originally posted by Go Nads:
In America when someone calls another a bigot, 99% of the time it is because the person doing the name calling is ignorant to the facts. They usually have no grounds for their comment.

O'Reilly is the Enquirer Tabloid King of Fox .... he is an idiot, just as Rush is.

And ole broke nose isn't?

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Originally posted by granolabars:
Im sure everyone has seen this clip,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0Gwz-2qB7o

Bill states that that person who was guilty of vehicular homicide had no right to be here in america, I agree, thats what illegal means. Just watch the footage. You lefts will hate it!

I loved it, must mean I am a right wing whack job. O'Reilly had an interesting point, one of the innumerable Drink Driving Deaths in Virginia was caused by an Mexican Citizen. He claims the Mexican Citizen was in the country illegally. I would like to see the evidence of that particular Assertion.

If we deported every Drunk foreign Tourist found in the USA Las Vegas would be empty.

Foreign citizens licensed to drive in their home countries are permitted to drive in all states of the Union. Canadian Truck Drivers, with proper Canadian Commercial Licenses are not only allowed to drive, they are allowed to work, and fulfill contracts on US soil.

Recent changes in US law will require Mexican Citizens entering the country to obtain documentation that they crossed into the nation at a port of entry, but presently no such documents are issued. The vast majority of Foreign Citizens in the USA have no documentation beyond the passport or other document issued by their native country. Those with valid licenses from their nation of residence are permitted to drive in the United States.

The issue is what would be called a Straw Man in most college debates.

O'Reilly, calling the Mexican driver in the fatal accident Illegal, was almost certainly wrong about the driver's status. He may have been driving illegally, if he had no valid drivers license issued by Mexico. Unless he was driving for pay, he was not otherwise operating the vehicle illegally. He was Driving Drunk, Just as Rivera Said. His status in the country is NOT shown to be illegal because he was driving, or drunk. He was an illegal, only if he was regularly employed and did not have an H1b Visa, or other work visa. The fact that such documentation was not in his possession at the time of the accident means nothing. The document may have been on file at his place of employment. That is the most likely place to find those documents, since that the the only place they are required.

This public airing of ignorance has to end. O'Reilly is NOT godlike. He may have relied on a Virginia State Trooper's Assertion that the man was illegally in the country, but the evidence of the past history of the Mexican Driver says otherwise. He had been arrested before for drunkenness and had not been deported. This indicates he was a DRUNK, not that he was an illegal immigrant, and may in fact provide evidence that he was in the country LEGALLY.
Rivera Was Right. This incident is a case of Drunk Driving, not illegal immigration.

There is a reason INS officers raid workplaces. ANYWHERE ELSE A FOREIGN CITIZEN IS NOT IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW. Every hotel in Alabama would be in violation of the law if they were prohibited from providing housing to foreign citizens without visas. VISAS ARE NOT REQUIRED OF MOST FOREIGN PASSPORT HOLDERS. Mexicans are in that group.

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Originally posted by traderconnections:
I guess you are a Bigot if you try to enforce the immigration laws...lets just say they were white and illegal..does that still make us a bigot..?

ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL REGARDLESS OF RACE OR COLOR..!!

That's not the question. The bigotry is proven by the ridiculous focus on Hispanics. If he were white, it wouldn't have made the news!

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Originally posted by granolabars:
but, the man was illegal, unlawful, and drunk, that deserves severe punishment. im for truth and justice. are you?

Absolutely, I'm for justice! His crimes should be handled. But to link to the two as somehow inherently connected is absurd.

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Originally posted by Go Nads:
Yes, "Open Border Geraldo" is an proponent of illegal or criminal aliens! O'Reilly was correct and there is know other way to look at it if you are an a true law abiding "Red, White and Blue American".

I get so tired of Conservatives acting like they have a monopoly on patriotism.

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Originally posted by Go Nads:
In America when someone calls another a bigot, 99% of the time it is because the person doing the name calling is ignorant to the facts. They usually have no grounds for their comment.

Wow! Quoting a "99%" stat' to prove someone else has no grounds! Now, that's irony.

Awesome post, Ed. Well said.

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Originally posted by granolabars:
but, the man was illegal, unlawful, and drunk, that deserves severe punishment. im for truth and justice. are you?

Well, do you want to punish him, or send him home?

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Originally posted by traderconnections:
I guess you are a Bigot if you try to enforce the immigration laws...lets just say they were white and illegal..does that still make us a bigot..?

ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL REGARDLESS OF RACE OR COLOR..!!

Well, here is how I see the problem, Unemployment is at 4.2%. About 140 million people are working in the US. (Not counting full time wives and mothers.) The people who are demanding NO amnesty, also claim that 12 million people are working Illegally. That means that 128 million are working legally, so about 10% of the labor force is Illegal. IF WE PUT A STOP TO IT, WE ARE SHORT SOMEWHERE NEAR 8 MILLION WARM BODIES TO FILL JOBS.

And I doubt we'll lure welfare recipients off our money with chicken, landscaping, and salsa replenishment jobs. They're holding out for management positions.

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Originally posted by one who posts:

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Originally posted by Go Nads:
Yes, "Open Border Geraldo" is an proponent of illegal or criminal aliens! O'Reilly was correct and there is know other way to look at it if you are an a true law abiding "Red, White and Blue American".

I get so tired of Conservatives acting like they have a monopoly on patriotism.

OH MY GOD!!! Ain't THAT the truth!!!!!! They cannot even conceive of themselves being wrong...

Conservatives believe in Pro Life, but they believe in sending our people over THERE to their death... God, what hypocracy!!!

They THINK they are the ONLY ones who thinks abortion is wrong... well "I" think it is wrong too, I would NEVER have EVER done that!!!! But on the other hand, they don't mind giving kids guns to get killed with... hypocracy? YEP!

NO ABORTIONS, JUST SHOOT THEM WHEN THEY ARE 18 OR OLDER!!! UGH UGH UGH!!!

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Originally posted by one who posts:
And I doubt we'll lure welfare recipients off our money with chicken, landscaping, and salsa replenishment jobs. They're holding out for management positions.

one who posts, Welfare is a straw man argument. Before the Clinton era reform, the average welfare recipient was on the program for 18 to 20 months in a lifetime. Now, for programs not aimed at the disabled, the maximum is two years. Unemployment is at 4.2% illegal employment totals about 8% of the workforce. WHEN YOU LEARN ARITHMETIC call me.