Fresh out of college, degree in hand, student loans hanging over head...job market here we come..!!! BUT WAIT, you have a BS or Masters in Education and school systems are shedding jobs at an unbelievable rate. You are out of school, out of work and out of luck. Huntsville has now cut 157 and they are supposed to have the best economy in the state.

Even tenured teachers are being "riffed" because it is lack of STATE money, not local money that is fueling the problem.

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I remember a few years ago, about 10, when teachers in our state were getting paid squat. So a lot of them were going to Georgia because a teacher salary was far better. I had friends who did this. I don't know if it's any better now, but staying in this state as a teacher is probably not a good choice.
I have a friend that graduated w/ a degree in education several years ago and she hasn't been able to find a job either. She is doing whatever she can to make ends meet while trying to get her masters degree. She would like to move but her husband doesn't want to b/c he has a decent job here. It's so sad. My degree is not in education but in the mental health profession and still no job either. I guess I will eventually have to go back to retail unless I move away from my spouse and I would prefer not to move away.
A Trade I think is far better than a degree now, one of my Sons got laid off the other Day and he was out of work I believe for 5 days he works for one of these companys that if a Plant has a problem that their maintenance can't fix they call these places and they will send someone out to fix their Problem for them.
I am not so sure upgrading a teaching degree is really going to make a difference in helping you get a job in Lauderdale County...not sure about other areas. Go to: http://www.lcschools.org/?PN=AboutUs
According to this website 61% of Teachers hold Advanced Degrees- Masters or Higher. You would not think so much education would be necessary to get considered for a teaching position. College level professor jobs do not seem to be any easier. Good luck, I hope you find a job soon.

I think it would be worth checking into teaching positions in Georgia. I have two relatives that both had to start out there. One is still there...I think since 1999.

One of the major problems leading to the shortage of funds for education is our current tax system. We seriously need to change it. If you are not familiar with it, just Google Alabama's regressive tax system. It is definitely worth spending some time to learn about it.
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Originally posted by ALmuckraker:
One of the major problems leading to the shortage of funds for education is our current tax system. We seriously need to change it. If you are not familiar with it, just Google Alabama's regressive tax system. It is definitely worth spending some time to learn about it.

I disagree. Taxes are plenty in this state. The AEA and its minions try to control the Legislature and have for years tried to institute a more offensive tax systemon the homeowners in Alabama.
While I agree that large lumber/forestry corporations do not pay their fair share of taxes, the average homeowner in Alabama has seen their taxes increase signifcantly in the past five years.
The AEA has a pretty sweet deal, and Hubbard appears to be the one pulling the strings in Montgomery. AS long as he continues to meddle in state politics and ask for more tax money from the people, I will not support them. Every profession (medicine, construction, etc) is seeing these types of hadships. People are being asked to do more for the same or less, and if they won't do it, then the companies or corporations will have to find someone who will. Welcome to the real world, it is about to get tough.
My son finishes school (college) this year and I too worry abouthim finding a job. I know how hard it was in 1981 when I finsihed HS. back then if you did not find a job, your only alternative was enlist in the military or go to college and bide your time till something opened up. I know lots of my friends who had degrees in engineering and business who could not find jobs and ended up working in the oil field.
In cities, there are often many many no-shows the first day of school. You might need to pick a city as close as possible, have your bags ready, and kiss mother or significant other ,if single, good-bye. There probably is a waiting list because of economy at this time. It is worth a try! It worked for people in the past!
I think you misunderstood what I meant. If you do some research on the tax system in other states and compare them to Alabama, I think you will better understand what I am talking about. I like this website: http://www.ctj.org/taxjusticed...ax_issues/alabama_1/
however, there are many more that provide good information.

I hope your son is able to find employment soon after he graduates. I know many graduates are concerned about this.
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Originally posted by teyates:
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Originally posted by ALmuckraker:
One of the major problems leading to the shortage of funds for education is our current tax system. We seriously need to change it. If you are not familiar with it, just Google Alabama's regressive tax system. It is definitely worth spending some time to learn about it.

I disagree. Taxes are plenty in this state. The AEA and its minions try to control the Legislature and have for years tried to institute a more offensive tax systemon the homeowners in Alabama.
While I agree that large lumber/forestry corporations do not pay their fair share of taxes, the average homeowner in Alabama has seen their taxes increase signifcantly in the past five years.
The AEA has a pretty sweet deal, and Hubbard appears to be the one pulling the strings in Montgomery. AS long as he continues to meddle in state politics and ask for more tax money from the people, I will not support them. Every profession (medicine, construction, etc) is seeing these types of hadships. People are being asked to do more for the same or less, and if they won't do it, then the companies or corporations will have to find someone who will. Welcome to the real world, it is about to get tough.
My son finishes school (college) this year and I too worry abouthim finding a job. I know how hard it was in 1981 when I finsihed HS. back then if you did not find a job, your only alternative was enlist in the military or go to college and bide your time till something opened up. I know lots of my friends who had degrees in engineering and business who could not find jobs and ended up working in the oil field.
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Originally posted by teyates:
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Originally posted by ALmuckraker:
One of the major problems leading to the shortage of funds for education is our current tax system. We seriously need to change it. If you are not familiar with it, just Google Alabama's regressive tax system. It is definitely worth spending some time to learn about it.

I disagree. Taxes are plenty in this state. The AEA and its minions try to control the Legislature and have for years tried to institute a more offensive tax systemon the homeowners in Alabama.
While I agree that large lumber/forestry corporations do not pay their fair share of taxes the average homeowner in Alabama has seen their taxes increase signifcantly in the past five years.
The AEA has a pretty sweet deal, and Hubbard appears to be the one pulling the strings in Montgomery. AS long as he continues to meddle in state politics and ask for more tax money from the people, I will not support them. Every profession (medicine, construction, etc) is seeing these types of hadships. People are being asked to do more for the same or less, and if they won't do it, then the companies or corporations will have to find someone who will. Welcome to the real world, it is about to get tough.
My son finishes school (college) this year and I too worry abouthim finding a job. I know how hard it was in 1981 when I finsihed HS. back then if you did not find a job, your only alternative was enlist in the military or go to college and bide your time till something opened up. I know lots of my friends who had degrees in engineering and business who could not find jobs and ended up working in the oil field.


"While I agree that large lumber/forestry corporations do not pay their fair share of taxes..."

I’m sorry if I feel a bit snake-bit here, but I heard the same thing when Riley was pushing Amendment One early in his first term. Problem was, a blanket was thrown over all us forest landowners without regard to size. Fortunately, there was enough BS in Amendment One to upset everyone and it was soundly rejected at the polls.

Two thirds of my forest land is not suitable for growing anything but bottomland hardwoods. The remainder is planted to pines with 20% dedicated to open fields for wildlife, both game and non-game. In addition to complying with a host of government regulations such as Streamside Management Zones and Conservation Reserve Programs, I also subscribe to the Best Management Practices and am certified as a Tree Farm and Alabama TREASURE [not shouting] Forest which have even more stringent regulations.

My crop is a minimum 20 year investment. If I lose it to any catastrophic event such as fire, tornado or the Southern Pine Beetle, there is no next year recovery. It may take a decade or more. Bottom line is, the only thing that keeps wood and paper affordable is low taxes on land that may not be suitable for anything else. Then again, I could sell the land for development into another Super Box Store.

I don’t think you were targeting small-time operators like me, but I needed to say this to clarify what independent landowners in Alabama risk. We farmers own almost 22% of all forest compared to 25% owned by the forest industry. http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/A/ANR-0602/

And yes, I am an average homeowner as well. My taxes shot through the roof last year.
This is a sad thing going on in our beautiful state . Maybe now some people will understand why all four bordering states have the Lottery . Check out the candidates and see who we can vote in that will give us a chance for the Lottery to help our educational programs , God knows we need it bad . Remember though , only gamblers , gamble . So if you are not a gambler you have nothing to worry about when your next door neighbor buys lottery tickets from the state of Alabama , you can just rest better knowing your chidren and grand children will benefit from it . People in Alabama are already gambling , they are just spending their money in Mississippi , Tennessee , Georgia and Florida , and Alabama is losing teacher after teacher after teacher , do the math .

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