I realize there's the Sinners prayer to receive salvation.
Does God/Jesus hear any other prayer of a sinner?
Bill, just so you know before writing 10 paragraph's, I can't see your post...you know, as in Ignore.
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quote:Originally posted by semiannualchick:
I realize there's the Sinners prayer to receive salvation.
Does God/Jesus hear any other prayer of a sinner?
Bill, just so you know before writing 10 paragraph's, I can't see your post...you know, as in Ignore.
quote:Originally posted by Ronnie P.:
Never known a girl that cared that much about atheism or harassing a 70 year old. Just pointing that out.
quote:Originally posted by Jankinonya:
When and how did atheism get brought into this discussion by Semi?
Can you christians, (with the exception of b50m) not give her an answer without trying to turn it in to a debate on atheism?
Is your belief that weak?
Here you have a fellow believer and yet you can't help her question in any straight forward manner.
Semi, I think you are smart enough to see what is going on with Ronnie and Buffalo/rramm/gsman. They have no idea what to say to you. They have no valid response.
I will refrain from telling you what I think about prayer because I feel you ask this question of the christians here on the forum. I hope you get some sort of real answer. I think b50m has done the best (and only real) job of answering you. She is truly trying to help. The others...they have their own agenda, and could really care less about your spiritual uncertainty.
I am editing this to say, sorry Kraven, you did give her a caring and thought out response. Didn't mean to put you in the same category as the 2 trolls in this discussion.
quote:Originally posted by buffalo:
I offered to assist semi in private conversation rather than here on this public forum.
I will say this to semi:
More than likely some idiot without credentials as being perfect has assumed the license of making you feel guilty about something that is not remotely their business.
My advice to you girl is to hold your head up and be semi.
quote:Originally posted by buffalo:
I offered to assist semi in private conversation rather than here on this public forum.
quote:Originally posted by semiannualchick:
Ronnie P, who said I "cared so much" about atheism? Yes, I've asked questions about it...how do we learn if we don't asked those that do know, no matter what the subject might be?
For those of you that take my question seriously, this scripture is the reason I asked.
John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth. (KJV)
It seems to indicate that God only hears the prayer of the saved. I know people that believe in God but have not yet been saved.
Seems you have to take that step before He hears you. If that is true, I find that to be very sad.
quote:Originally posted by Kraven:quote:Originally posted by semiannualchick:
Ronnie P, who said I "cared so much" about atheism? Yes, I've asked questions about it...how do we learn if we don't asked those that do know, no matter what the subject might be?
For those of you that take my question seriously, this scripture is the reason I asked.
John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth. (KJV)
It seems to indicate that God only hears the prayer of the saved. I know people that believe in God but have not yet been saved.
Seems you have to take that step before He hears you. If that is true, I find that to be very sad.
Semi,
That's not true. God hears you. I know there are times when you think he's
not listening. Sometimes he will delay because he likes to hear you talk
only to him. He loves you and likes to hear from you, often.
quote:Originally posted by Jankinonya:
When and how did atheism get brought into this discussion by Semi?
Can you christians, (with the exception of b50m) not give her an answer without trying to turn it in to a debate on atheism?
Is your belief that weak?
Here you have a fellow believer and yet you can't help her question in any straight forward manner.
quote:Originally posted by buffalo:
Jank dear,
Semi has been exposed to the diseased brains of dawkins hitchens and puppet shermer through the infected brains of our resident atheist.
Semi has admitted a struggle. One could suspect an infection. We must hope an inoculation will grow and boost immunity to what we might refer to as The dawlikns Disease.
quote:Originally posted by buffalo:
Semi, no apology necessary ‘
Sometimes it helps to vent. No harm done.
Hypocrisy is an art form and I pride myself as an aficionado.
That could pose a problem to you if you have a fear of hypocrites.
quote:Originally posted by semiannualchick:
John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth. (KJV)
It seems to indicate that God only hears the prayer of the saved. I know people that believe in God but have not yet been saved.
Seems you have to take that step before He hears you. If that is true, I find that to be very sad.
quote:Originally posted by Kraven:
Semi,
That's not true. God hears you.
quote:Originally posted by semiannualchick:quote:Originally posted by semiannualchick:
John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth. (KJV)
It seems to indicate that God only hears the prayer of the saved. I know people that believe in God but have not yet been saved.
Seems you have to take that step before He hears you. If that is true, I find that to be very sad.quote:Originally posted by Kraven:
Semi,
That's not true. God hears you.
Then explain it. The scripture says he does not hear sinners, only worshipper's of God.
quote:Originally posted by Kraven:
You haven't turn your back on God. You say you are a believer. If he didn't hear
sinners it would be silent in heaven. God let's the person who abandons him
go his own way. He will give you every chance you need, and then your on
your own. Don't fall to despair thinking about it. God knows who seeks him
and those who who don't. Your not the sinner he's talking about.
quote:Originally posted by semiannualchick:
I've seen things happen that people were praying for but I don't think it was God that made it happen, I think it was just coincidence.
Of course, you can't convince those people of that.
I have prayed for a certain something, did I receive it...of course not.
The words "I'm praying for you" "I'm praying for a healing" "I'm praying for this or that".
I don't think the people that say those words really believe it. Not sure why they say it. Just habit maybe or feel they should?
If we are spared from bad things that could happen, then who/what spared us from it?
Change my situation to what?
quote:Originally posted by semiannualchick:quote:Originally posted by Kraven:
You haven't turn your back on God. You say you are a believer. If he didn't hear
sinners it would be silent in heaven. God let's the person who abandons him
go his own way. He will give you every chance you need, and then your on
your own. Don't fall to despair thinking about it. God knows who seeks him
and those who who don't. Your not the sinner he's talking about.
I'm not sure what I believe.
How do you or I know that I haven't already been given my share of chances & that I'm not one of those he has abandoned already?
quote:Originally posted by buffalo:
Ah ha semi,
You have been praying for the ability to read minds and tell fortunes.
if you are just whining for sympathy and what the future holds for you.
quote:Originally posted by beternU:
The so-called "sinner's prayer," that is, the one that so many revivalists, promoters, televangelists and others put forth as the way to be saved, is nownere taught for that purpose in scripture.
quote:Originally posted by buffalo:
Ah ha semi,
You have been praying for the ability to read minds and tell fortunes.
if you are just whining for sympathy and what the future holds for you.
quote:Originally posted by rramlimnn:
Fun andisic on d dock tone come on down
quote:Originally posted by Ronnie P.:
Never known a girl that cared that much about atheism or harassing a 70 year old. Just pointing that out.
quote:Originally posted by O No!:
I think "the sinner's prayer" is a suggestion, just like when Jesus suggested "The Lord's Prayer". He wasn't telling us to recite it, He was telling us that these are the things we should be praying for to please God. Using our OWN words is probably better because they would come from the heart, not by rote.
So if a person recites the "sinner's prayer", that's OK, but it would be better to look into our own hearts and repent in our own words. I would think that would be more sincere.
quote:Originally posted by semiannualchick:quote:Originally posted by buffalo:
I offered to assist semi in private conversation rather than here on this public forum.
Say what?
I just went back to look at my PM's to make sure I hadn't overlooked any. There is no PM from you.
quote:Originally posted by House of David:
Semi,
Praying to God is a form of worshiping God. So when the sinner prays to God, God does hear him. The prodigal son is a good example, God always receives us, and hears us even when we aren't at our best. Remember how Mary Magdalene went to Jesus. She was a sinner, but she reached out to Him by washing His feet with her tears, and drying them with her hair. In prayer the sinner reaches out to God, and is always welcome.
God sent Jesus to the sinners, so God is expecting to hear from sinners.
Feel comfort in Luke 15:7, "I tell you that in the same way, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance." Hope this helps.
quote:After the age of accountability -- we must first "open the door" (Revelation 3;20) -- and this is done with that simple prayer, "Lord, i am a sinner. Please forgive me. . ."