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OK. Having explained previously that I like to speak colorfully and that so far, I haven't had much use for religion, I found this really neato piece of (prose, I guess) written by a guy who calls himself "Frank Skanga' on a website that has what most here might consider a very unsavory name.

I didn't write it, but it pretty much sums up the way I feel about religion-The people who preach it, and the people who blindly follow it.
It also says a lot about what I think is right.

It says what I can't always find the words in time to say. ( It's rude and crude, but I have heavily censored it in an attempt to comply with the automatic Mrs. Grundy without losing the 'flavor', but you'll get the idea.)

So without further ado, Let's Roll:

Siddown and shut up...
I'm Frank Skanga, GFD

-----Priests of the Crystal Palace------

F@&% the Bible
And the Koran
F@&% both testaments
The Book of Mormon
And Tao Te Ching
It's all bulls#*!

I'm tired of hearing
about morality
I have ethics
I care about what
is right and what
Is wrong
Not what
I need to do
to receive my
Holy Reward

I'm tired of filthy
television evangelists
smoking meth and
stroking c###s
taking the stage and
millions of bucks
then telling others
about their morality

Mostly taking as much
money as they can get
from mindless worshipers
who question nothing

I'm tired of politicians
saying, "God" and, "Faith"
twenty times in every
speech to tame a
flock of sheep
bleating their putrid
mindless song
then bombing the f@&%
out of helpless, innocent
people of another faith
just to make a buck


And "God" sees all
all the while
prayers ignored
goodness destroyed
motionless children
dead and on display
arms and legs outstretched
bowels on the ground
skulls cracked and
brains bashed in
And "God" is watching
all the while

Everything happens for
a reason they say
again and again
There can be no light
without darkness
No good without evil
It's part of His
immortal plan
Glory to the lord
Glory be thy lord

Whitey said Genesis proved
that slavery was right
It was written
by holy hands

Hitler was a Roman Catholic
Taking revenge for Jesus' murder

The crusaders raped
and killed their
way to heaven

A Muslim blew the s#&t
out of a bus-load of
people because someone
told him that Allah
thought it was
a good idea

Allah Akhbar
Allah Akhbar
God is great
Glory be thy lord
Hallowed be thy name

I'm sick of needless suffering
I'm sick of holy men
in Crystal Palaces stroking
little boys like Michael Jackson
using billions in tithes to pay
for lawyers because some
damaged kid hung himself
with an extension cord and
named a priest in his
suicide note

I'm sick of it
Everyone should
be sick of it

Life is precious
Life is sacred
Life is a great gift

After life is returning
to the earth
The filament will burn
and the light will cease
It is the Great
Scheme of Things

You should be glad your
sick heart will not
live on and your soul
will perish

Life is the result of
A random series of events
with no meaning
You will not find yourself
in a blessed place
surrounded only by
your faithful brethren

Rejoice!

You didn't like them
much anyway
You didn't really care
about anyone
You had morality

Just enough righteousness
and belief in Jesus, Vishnu,
Allah and John Smith to earn
your eternal f@&%ing reward

You didn't care about Ethics
You didn't do the Right Thing
For the sake of doing
the Right Thing
You had morality

You had to be a sheep
and follow the Pedophile Priest
The Meth Smoking Methodist
Opium Buddhas
and Pandering Politicians

They led the way
so they could make a buck
Because they understood
that it's all here and now
and they didn't give a s@&t
about anyone else

Here and now is important
because I care about the
children with their skulls
cracked open and their
bowels on the ground

I care about the ones
with their hearts torn out
and their anus' rubbed raw
hanging from their own rope
because they couldn't
stand the shame

And so help me I care
about the sheep that can't
think for themselves

They all need our help

I want an end of righteousness
I want people to see that life
is all we get and our reward
will be the satisfaction of
helping each other through it

I want people to worship Ethics
Doing what is right because
that is what is good for everyone
and not for the promise
of eternal reward

Because morality is evil
Ethics bears no righteousness
But it is the best any God
could hope to create

'Murica

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No, pup. I was just kidding. Smiler
All religions have history of violence and hatred. I totally get where you are going with this. But I of course will have to disagree wiht the statements that say that God, nor Heaven exist. I believe they do.
All that aside, it is incredibly difficult to have faith when all we see is violence and tragedy all around us. It's very easy to be faithful when the world is peaceful, and everything is smooth. But, when we need God the most, often we feel we have been abandoned.
Too many people doing bad bad things in the name of religion. Sad, really.
Oh. Okey. Smiler Couldn't tell right away.

I mean, I could accept that, if it was so.

Naw, b50m, I'm pretty sure it left out a buncha other (what I consider to be really off-the-wall religions). Like the Krishnas, The Moonies ("Wouldn't you really rather be wasted by a rifle that has Rev Sun Myung Moon's Holy Seal Of Approval!??"), The Solar Temple whackos, The Church Of What's Happening Now ("They preach to the cool, NOT the fool.") The (former) Branch Davidians, and quite possibly The Screamin' Electric Rock-N-Roll Church Of The Epleptic Jesus, to name a few.

BUT-Ya can't please everybody. Wink
I'm just glad to live in a "relatively free" country with freedom of Speech rights and have no problem with someone writing such for it's to each individual to know why they believe or lack of belief. Does though sound like an individual with some anger issues.

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And "God" sees all
all the while
prayers ignored
goodness destroyed
motionless children
dead and on display
arms and legs outstretched
bowels on the ground
skulls cracked and
brains bashed in
And "God" is watching
all the while



While I'm sure I would be considered, by some, to be a "thumper" and definitely am a professing Christian my comment on the post as well as the above is that it's all a bit Hypocritical because parts or definitely judgmental making assumptions without merit. The same is so critical of Christians or other Religious persons for perceiving that they are doing what the author or source is doing only from a counter position.

As an American I'm glad we have the freedom to write such and post it or even read it.

As a Christian it seems to me to be originated by a person with some anger issues ( possibly justified, possibly not) and someone that seemingly to overly obsessed with Religion or religious people rather than enjoying the life they consider so "precious, sacred, and great gift" whether they are ultimately a believer in God or an atheist. Mine is not to be Judgmental yet it seems this was written by someone who is potentially very judgmental.

Is religion or people, in the name of religion, perfect or without blame? No, as many terrible and unjustifiable things have been done in the name of religion but with every human group you have representatives that are most certainly outside the norm and not Representative of what their professed religion actually teaches or believes. The same holds true for atheist or non-believers. The only real question I have about what was said was regarding Hitler being a Roman Catholic and going after the Jews taking revenge for Jesus murder. I'd be interested in the source for this statement for in truth I believe it was Rome, or Rome's representative, that actually did the deed. Oh well that's another topic
Yeah, I got some anger issues. You best b'leeve dat.

Wouldn't YOU if you'd been spoonfed this crap all your life, only to watch "devout, righteous Christians" chucking it all in the crapper every day in some of the most spectacular and heinous ways possible? Like messsing with KIDS!?
Murder? Deceit? Conning weak-minded people out of millions of their hard-earned dollars in the name of 'salvation?' And then having the colossal STONES to tell me I'M going to hell because I don't believe????!!!???

Yeah. "God loves you....AS LONG AS YOU KEEP PAYING FOR IT. By the way, how's that new Mercedes runnin', reverend? Gee I woulda put something in the plate this week, but I hadda replace the transmission in my fifteen year old Chevy so I could keep going to work so I can afford to keep paying to get your chariot detailed once a week so it looks righteous in the parking lot, you stooge."

Yeah, you could safely say I got some anger issues. Wink

If you read the WHOLE thing, you'll remember that I said that *I* didn't write it, so if you want to take issue with the small details-you'll hafta take those up with Mr. Skanga.
Be forewarned, though. If you think I'm an abrasive personality-You ain't seen nothin' yet til you meet Frank.

He'll unscrew your head and sit down on your carcass and eat your eyeballs with a spoon. (verbally, of course.) Wink

Way to get the point..... Carry on...
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it seems to me to be originated by a person with some anger issues ( possibly justified, possibly not) and someone that seemingly to overly obsessed with Religion or religious people rather than enjoying the life they consider so "precious, sacred, and great gift" whether they are ultimately a believer in God or an atheist.


Road Puppy, The above statement of mine, in response to your original post, clearly states I wasn't directing those statements to you but rather the author of what you posted. I'm sorry you took offense or thought it was directed at you. That said I don't judge you or your motives for posting it and I'm sure you have had very negative experiences with religion/Christians before and I'm regretful for that also but I can't do anything about that.

I would still suggest though not to allow others, whether an individual Christian or even Preachers to control you by creating within you a total abhorrence for Jesus Christ/God or the Scriptures. I believe that God deals with individuals on an individual basis. Sometimes God works through His saints, fellow believers, but ultimately God's communications with people is on a solely personal, intimate, basis and undeniable. It is easy, at times, to allow other people to get in our way of being unbiased toward religion or God but I still believe that the sincere person, that is looking for God, will find Him, if he desires.

As for Mr. Skanga, I have no issue with him either. I have only stated that based upon what he wrote (if he is the author) it seems that, as I said, that he had anger issues. I also gave the doubt that they could have been justified or unjustified. We are all different individuals and look at things from different perspectives. If you reread what I posted though you will see it wasn't written as believing you were the author.
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Originally posted by gbrk:
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it seems to me to be originated by a person with some anger issues ( possibly justified, possibly not) and someone that seemingly to overly obsessed with Religion or religious people rather than enjoying the life they consider so "precious, sacred, and great gift" whether they are ultimately a believer in God or an atheist.




Road Puppy, The above statement of mine, in response to your original post, clearly states I wasn't directing those statements to you but rather the author of what you posted. I'm sorry you took offense or thought it was directed at you. That said I don't judge you or your motives for posting it and I'm sure you have had very negative experiences with religion/Christians before and I'm regretful for that also but I can't do anything about that.

I would still suggest though not to allow others, whether an individual Christian or even Preachers to control you by creating within you a total abhorrence for Jesus Christ/God or the Scriptures. I believe that God deals with individuals on an individual basis. Sometimes God works through His saints, fellow believers, but ultimately God's communications with people is on a solely personal, intimate, basis and undeniable. It is easy, at times, to allow other people to get in our way of being unbiased toward religion or God but I still believe that the sincere person, that is looking for God, will find Him, if he desires.

As for Mr. Skanga, I have no issue with him either. I have only stated that based upon what he wrote (if he is the author) it seems that, as I said, that he had anger issues. I also gave the doubt that they could have been justified or unjustified. We are all different individuals and look at things from different perspectives. If you reread what I posted though you will see it wasn't written as believing you were the author.


OK. Point taken. My bad.

I allow no one to control me. I didn't raise myself that way. Any decisions I have made concerning my views are solely mine based upon observation and reason.

Plain and simple-I don't believe them (most believers) because for the most part-THEY don't even believe what they're talking about! They're just repeating what they've been told all their lives because it's apparently the thing to do to be in the club.

Then there are the ones who are obviously lying to me to distract me long enough to try to reach their hand into my pocket, 'cause as Grandmaster Flash once said, "It's all about money/Ain't a d##n thing funny/Ya got to have a con in this land of milk and honey."

I *was* unbiased toward religion at one time.
People took advantage of that condition and used it to shovel crap into my head. Took me forever to clean the place out. Never again will I allow that to happen.
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No problem, could have happened with anyone. As for the religion history you are dealing with or have dealt with no one would be justified to assume anything regarding your experiences or with anyone else.

That said, Religion is a very personal and intimate thing with anyone and whatever a person chooses to believe or accept they should have good reasons for that. I hope that somehow though you can see around those that have effected you, in a negative way, and whatever it is you seek I hope you are successful in finding it.

I personally believe that God seeks out those that seek out Him and does so in a very personal way, often apart from religious institutions and I hope it's possible that whoever, however many there were, effected you in this negative way will not continue to come between you and that which you seek.

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