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Kids admire pro athletes; I would rather that children's role models not be thugs.

Kids admire pro athletes; I would rather that children's role models not be thugs.

I agree, you are right, now there is too many young kids who have drug dealers or pro athletes for their only role models.

in a statement, released today, the police state they 'sent a copy of the tape to the NFL, in april'.  just to add a little fuel to the 'ray rice fire'.. the average 'punishment' for testing positive for marijuana... 4 games for the first offense... repeat offenders, entire seasons.. habitual offenders, banned for life... some kinda standards there.

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NFL "Logic":

Four games off for popping pot

Two games off for popping your fiance' with a left hook.

Conclusion, Smokin' weed is twice as bad as knocking your fiance' cold.

The NFL shouldn't have had to do anything.  Ray Rice should be in jail.

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Agreed.  All too often, violent behavior by esteemed athletic figures seems not to be treated like such behavior would be if the perpetrator is just Joe Blow.  Joe Blow woul probably already be in jail, but Ray Rice got the velvet glove.

At least this latest round of NFL domestic violence is being reported NOT in the sports pages, but in the mainstream news on Page 1.

If you break the law and get caught, you get a lawyer, jury, and a judge to decide you guilt or innocence. After that, if you are a pro football player, regardless of what the legal system said and did, you are penalized far more by a businessman than the law. Isn't that double jeopardy?

so the video I saw there was no sound, so don't know what was said. However she charged him showing she was the aggressor.   I keep hearing women want equal rights, yet open the door for them. well which is it? I don't agree with hitting a woman or someone half my size, however I know plenty of women and people half my size that start the fight. if she hurts him people make fun, if he defends himself he is a bully. either way he loses.   stop double standards

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Get ready to be jumped on. I saw the same thing. She may not have been the aggressor but she went after him without, looked to me, any fear when she could have walked away. Now, what should have happened? He should have left her a** where she was when she charged him. He shouldn't have knocked her out, but she shouldn't have been all big and bad in his face either. They should have separated and been done with each other, but my understanding is they married after this. So to **** with them, she's a grown woman, would want us to think she's intelligent, and sure knows what she has in him, just like he knows what he has in her. Let them beat the snot out of each other, seems that's the relationship they BOTH want. Now all the old 'war on women' hens can start cackling at me.

Good grief, I'm in 100% agreement with Best.

I disagree Joe Blow would  be back at work on Monday.  No one would have leaked the footage and if they had no one would have known how to identify the couple.  Joe Blow isn't in the spotlight.  He isn't a role model and he isn't going to sell any papers.

I deplore hitting women and Ray Rice should have been junk punched by a mule but he shouldn't have his life destroyed.  

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I  too deplore something.  I deplore the use of the term "destroyed" within a context where it plainly does not fit.  Rice will, at some time, return to the NFL , after he has taken his medicine--which should be pretty strong medicine. But his life will not be "destroyed."

Michael Vick did not have his life or his football career "destroyed" on account of his dog fighting conviction and incarceration.  The numerous suspensions of pro athletes for use of illegal drugs has not "destroyed" their lives.  They generally get some time off without pay and then get back in the game, earning BIG bucks again.  "Destruction"? I think not.

And who made you the script writer and prognosticator concerning that alleged soft treatment of Joe Blow? There are many thousands of cases of domestic violence prosecution against ordinary folks. You must have a   low appreciation for the police and the justice system if you really believe it would be nigh impossible to identify and prosecute a Joe Blow whose actions are like those of the odious Ray Rice and whose barbaric beating of a woman is preserved on video taken at a hotel where he  was a registered guest. as were Rice and his fiance'.

Get real.

Rice is a running back.  Michael Vick was a quarterback.  The average career for running back in the NFL is2.6 years.   Ray Rice was drafted in 2008.  There is a better than average chance his his careen is over.  

You mention Joe Blow would have been convicted.   Tell me how did this unfold.  Did the cameras at the casino alert the police or did a rogue casino worker sell the initial footage (outside the elevator) to a press agency?   Did the casino worker go to the police?  No.  He sold it because it had value and the police got wind of it after it hit the press.

I  too deplore something.  I deplore the use of the term "destroyed" within a context where it plainly does not fit.  Rice will, at some time, return to the NFL , after he has taken his medicine--which should be pretty strong medicine. But his life will not be "destroyed."

Michael Vick did not have his life or his football career "destroyed" on account of his dog fighting conviction and incarceration.  The numerous suspensions of pro athletes for use of illegal drugs has not "destroyed" their lives.  They generally get some time off without pay and then get back in the game, earning BIG bucks again.  "Destruction"? I think not.

Contendah, you know a lot about a lot of things, but not about sports figures. Vick spent several months in jail and the real cost to him was probably over 100 million dollars. Is that about right for abusing dogs? Rice is going to be suspended from football for at least a year. His cost is going to exceed 10 million dollars. The legal charges have already been settled. Is this the correct penalty for him? If the judge, in either case, would have fined them that much, it would have been thrown out by the appeal.

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 You still have not addressed the "destroyed" element of your original contention. Vick is back in business, earning big bucks and Ray Rice most likely will be "rehabilitated" and return to popularity and prosperity. "Destroyed" does not fit those scenarios.

And these athletes knew when they entered the NFL that the league had the power to hold them accountable above and beyond what the law might prescribe as punishment.  Their very lucrative contracts acknowledge the league's and the teams'requiirements.

All you muscled-up, over-paid, idolized jocks out there, HEAR THIS: Do not beat  your woman and you won't get into the kind of trouble that Ray Rice has brought upon himself.

The way the video looked, she lost a fist fight.