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Originally posted by O No!:
I've let this ride all day. The reason I posted this was to show that although SOME people don't like Obama because of his policies, there are many who dislike him because he is black. I firmly believe that if he balanced the budget, eliminated the deficit, got unemployment down to 0 percent, and cut taxes on top of it all, there are people who would still hate him, and all because he is black.

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The race card please.

To start with, not only will he not balance the budget in his
first and only term. He will put us trillions of dollars more in debt.
The deficit, yea right. Unemployment to 0%? not unless the many
Americans sucking on the gov't tit have a rich uncle step in. Hate
him? I do not. Hate his policies? Absolutly. Hate our gov't being
turned into a socialist, world governed country? You bet.
Racist? Not a chance.

Keep Marching,
Skippy Cool
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Originally posted by b50m:
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Originally posted by O No!:
I've let this ride all day. The reason I posted this was to show that although SOME people don't like Obama because of his policies, there are many who dislike him because he is black. I firmly believe that if he balanced the budget, eliminated the deficit, got unemployment down to 0 percent, and cut taxes on top of it all, there are people who would still hate him, and all because he is black.


Some people are racist, period. From all walks of life, all cultures, all races and all political parties. Had GWB walked on water, found a cure for all diseases, and ended wars, people would still hate him for simply existing.
This logic makes as much sense as saying all those who didn't vote for John McCain HATE white people.


I didn't vote for McCain and I actually do hate the vast majority of white people.
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Originally posted by Opie Cunningham:
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Originally posted by b50m:
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Originally posted by O No!:
I've let this ride all day. The reason I posted this was to show that although SOME people don't like Obama because of his policies, there are many who dislike him because he is black. I firmly believe that if he balanced the budget, eliminated the deficit, got unemployment down to 0 percent, and cut taxes on top of it all, there are people who would still hate him, and all because he is black.


Some people are racist, period. From all walks of life, all cultures, all races and all political parties. Had GWB walked on water, found a cure for all diseases, and ended wars, people would still hate him for simply existing.
This logic makes as much sense as saying all those who didn't vote for John McCain HATE white people.


I didn't vote for McCain and I actually do hate the vast majority of white people.

You hate all people opie.
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Originally posted by TrueBlue:
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Originally posted by Winston Niles Rumfoord:
I dislike Obama because he has been marinated in progressive socialist ideology all of his life. Also, don't care for his arrogance. Because he happens to be a mulatto makes no difference to me.

Is this racist?

No.....thats just stupid. We see things different with his progressive agenda. There is a difference between Progressive and Socialist. They are not interchangable. Nor is Socialism interchangable with Democracy.

Sorry, I tend to be circumspect.

I meant Marxist/Communist.
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Some people are racist, period. From all walks of life, all cultures, all races and all political parties. Had GWB walked on water, found a cure for all diseases, and ended wars, people would still hate him for simply existing.
This logic makes as much sense as saying all those who didn't vote for John McCain HATE white people.[/QUOTE]

Not quite. Its like the guy said "not all Republicans are racists but the majority of racists are Republicans. If I were a racists, I couldn't see how the Democratic party could represent my views....with Civil Rights and all.

As for GW, I liked him. He cracked me up. I think he would be a great guy to get to know and hang out with. But not exactly the best President. In his defense, I think its pretty clear that he didn't really have much say anyways. Its pretty clear Rove and Chenney used ol' George as a front man.

Another interesting fact is that one of the MAIN reasons McCain didn't win the election was because he was PRO immigration. He co-wrote (with Ted Kennedy and Obama) the only Immigration Reform bill to go to the floor. Republicans were unanimously against the bill. Interestingly, when John McCain came up for Senate reelection he did a 360 on his immigration beleives and denounced his own bill. That was the only way he could win. To get in step with the Republican party.

Bush and Rove also supported and pushed for Immigration Reform. To both Bush and McCains credit, it was a pretty smart move. Latinos are the fastest growing minority in the USA and most of their values are more in line with the Republican ideas. If they would have secured the Latino vote the parties future would be set. But the Republican party disinfranchised them and anyone supporting them. Speaks volumes doesn't it?
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Originally posted by Winston Niles Rumfoord:
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Originally posted by TrueBlue:
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Originally posted by Winston Niles Rumfoord:
I dislike Obama because he has been marinated in progressive socialist ideology all of his life. Also, don't care for his arrogance. Because he happens to be a mulatto makes no difference to me.

Is this racist?

No.....thats just stupid. We see things different with his progressive agenda. There is a difference between Progressive and Socialist. They are not interchangable. Nor is Socialism interchangable with Democracy.

Sorry, I tend to be circumspect.

I meant Marxist/Communist.


So you are calling/compairing Obama to a Marxist/Communist now? Please elaborate, explain to me how Obama has demostrated Marxism/Communism? If you don't know the meaning of such big words like Socialism, Maxism and Communism....you really shouldn't use them.
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Originally posted by JimiHendrix:
While it is true that not all Republicans are racists, the vast majority of racists are Republicans. And the vast majority of Republican Teabaggers are racists.

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Let's see who again fought equal rights tooth and nail and made
up the majotity of the KKK? The Democrates.
Why don't you ask your Grand Cyclops why he's a Democrat?

Keep Marching,
Skippy Wink
Umm...again...I think there is some confussion here. First of all, JFK was the first to promote Civil Rights legislation and the REPUBLICANS (primarily in the South) fought tooth and nail against it. It is still that way today.....most civil right legislation is brought to the floor by Democrats and Republicans typically vote against it.

As for the KKK, the Democratic party HAS NOTHING to offer them. Why would they ever support a party who supports equal rights when they don't beleive in them? Do you expect us to beleive that the KKK was represented by a party who elected a Black man to run for President? OMG!

GO TO SCHOOL AND GET AN EDUCATION. And its Democrat NOT Democrate.
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Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Its probably not fair to say that all Republicans are racists. But racism is associated with the party. I would say that association must stem from the fact that a large majority of Republicans either demonstrate or simply ARE racist. I mean....I don't think too many KKK clans men are voting Democrat.


Traditionally, the klan was the para-military arm of the Democrats.
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Originally posted by TrueBlue:
So you are calling/compairing Obama to a Marxist/Communist now? Please elaborate, explain to me how Obama has demostrated Marxism/Communism? If you don't know the meaning of such big words like Socialism, Maxism and Communism....you really shouldn't use them.

Well, let's see, his father was an anti-colonialist Kenyan, possibly in league with the Mau-Mau, trying to overthrow the government and institute a socialist regime.

In Hawaii, his mother shacked up with communist party member Frank Marshall, whom Obama considers his mentor.

In college he attended socialist conferences and soaked himself in Marxist literature.

He sat 20+ years in former Black Muslim Jerimiah "God Da** America!" Wright's congregation, don't think he slept through all that noise.

Became a community organizer (agitator) helping terrorize banks and landlords to force them to deal with people who would destabilize their businesses.

Appointed czars like communist Van Jones.

Looted the treasury to destabilize the country which is now rated by S&P as negative.

What are you thinking?
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Originally posted by elinterventor01:
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Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Its probably not fair to say that all Republicans are racists. But racism is associated with the party. I would say that association must stem from the fact that a large majority of Republicans either demonstrate or simply ARE racist. I mean....I don't think too many KKK clans men are voting Democrat.


Traditionally, the klan was the para-military arm of the Democrats.


Traditionally? During RECONSTRUCTION. The 1800s were a long time ago. A lot has changed since then.

The Republican party was once the party of Lincoln too. Not so much in common anymore.
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Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Umm...again...I think there is some confussion here. First of all, JFK was the first to promote Civil Rights legislation and the REPUBLICANS (primarily in the South) fought tooth and nail against it. It is still that way today.....most civil right legislation is brought to the floor by Democrats and Republicans typically vote against it.

As for the KKK, the Democratic party HAS NOTHING to offer them. Why would they ever support a party who supports equal rights when they don't beleive in them? Do you expect us to beleive that the KKK was represented by a party who elected a Black man to run for President? OMG!

GO TO SCHOOL AND GET AN EDUCATION. And its Democrat NOT Democrate.

Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.

Martin Luther King was a Republican

The Republicans were instrumental in passing the 1964 Civil Rights act.
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Originally posted by Winston Niles Rumfoord:
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Originally posted by TrueBlue:
So you are calling/compairing Obama to a Marxist/Communist now? Please elaborate, explain to me how Obama has demostrated Marxism/Communism? If you don't know the meaning of such big words like Socialism, Maxism and Communism....you really shouldn't use them.

Well, let's see, his father was an anti-colonialist Kenyan, possibly in league with the Mau-Mau, trying to overthrow the government and institute a socialist regime.

In Hawaii, his mother shacked up with communist party member Frank Marshall, whom Obama considers his mentor.

In college he attended socialist conferences and soaked himself in Marxist literature.

He sat 20+ years in former Black Muslim Jerimiah "God Da** America!" Wright's congregation, don't think he slept through all that noise.

Became a community organizer (agitator) helping terrorize banks and landlords to force them to deal with people who would destabilize their businesses.

Appointed czars like communist Van Jones.

Looted the treasury to destabilize the country which is now rated by S&P as negative.

What are you thinking?
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I can't argue with information straight out of the National Inquirer. Get a REAL education.
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Sez trueblue: Umm...again...I think there is some confussion here. First of all, JFK was the first to promote Civil Rights legislation and the REPUBLICANS (primarily in the South) fought tooth and nail against it. It is still that way today.....most civil right legislation is brought to the floor by Democrats and Republicans typically vote against it.

As for the KKK, the Democratic party HAS NOTHING to offer them. Why would they ever support a party who supports equal rights when they don't beleive in them? Do you expect us to beleive that the KKK was represented by a party who elected a Black man to run for President? OMG!

GO TO SCHOOL AND GET AN EDUCATION. And its Democrat NOT Democrate.


Well...if nothing else, that comment just exposed you as a know-nothing posturing for position among your fellow Libtard "know-nothings".

And I had such high hopes for you...
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Originally posted by Winston Niles Rumfoord:

The Republicans were instrumental in passing the 1964 Civil Rights act.


Huh, I think you need to re-check that. As stated above the bill was introduced to Congress in 1963 by Kennedy (a democrat).

When Johnson (a democrat) was re-elected he had a congress that was 2/3's democrat and was able to get the bill passed.

Here's a little linky:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/p...hnson/printable.html
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Originally posted by TrueBlue:
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Originally posted by Winston Niles Rumfoord:
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Originally posted by TrueBlue:
So you are calling/compairing Obama to a Marxist/Communist now? Please elaborate, explain to me how Obama has demostrated Marxism/Communism? If you don't know the meaning of such big words like Socialism, Maxism and Communism....you really shouldn't use them.

Well, let's see, his father was an anti-colonialist Kenyan, possibly in league with the Mau-Mau, trying to overthrow the government and institute a socialist regime.

In Hawaii, his mother shacked up with communist party member Frank Marshall, whom Obama considers his mentor.

In college he attended socialist conferences and soaked himself in Marxist literature.

He sat 20+ years in former Black Muslim Jerimiah "God Da** America!" Wright's congregation, don't think he slept through all that noise.

Became a community organizer (agitator) helping terrorize banks and landlords to force them to deal with people who would destabilize their businesses.

Appointed czars like communist Van Jones.

Looted the treasury to destabilize the country which is now rated by S&P as negative.

What are you thinking?
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I can't argue with information straight out of the National Inquirer. Get a REAL education.

Why, then, don't you give us a brief synopsis of his life? And some of that information came from his own autobiography.
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Sez trueblue: mm...again...I think there is some confussion here. First of all, JFK was the first to promote Civil Rights legislation and the REPUBLICANS (primarily in the South) fought tooth and nail against it. It is still that way today.....most civil right legislation is brought to the floor by Democrats and Republicans typically vote against it.

As for the KKK, the Democratic party HAS NOTHING to offer them. Why would they ever support a party who supports equal rights when they don't beleive in them? Do you expect us to beleive that the KKK was represented by a party who elected a Black man to run for President? OMG!

GO TO SCHOOL AND GET AN EDUCATION. And its Democrat NOT Democrate.


LYNDON JOHNSON...early DEMOCRAT
Early in his career, both as a member of the House (when he opposed civil rights legislation), and later as Senate Majority Leader in 1957, LBJ made conversational use of the n-word. According to Robert Caro's 2003 book Master of the Senate: The Years of Lyndon Johnson, there were numerous exchanges between Johnson and other lawmakers in the Senate cloakroom in which the slur was a frequent companion of the future president of the United States.
There are reports that, even after becoming president in November 1963, Johnson used the n-word in private conversations at the White House and aboard Air Force One -- even invoking the n-word to describe Thurgood Marshall, whom he'd soon appoint to the U.S. Supreme Court.
In presidential historian Michael Beschloss' book Reaching for Glory: Lyndon Johnson's Secret White House Tapes, 1964-1965, we discover a President Johnson who bears some emotional detachment from the cause he espouses. In a March 1965 conversation with Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, Johnson mentions how a strategy planned by Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., to call for an economic boycott of products made in Alabama, was harshly criticized.
Johnson reacts to King's announcement of the plan on that week's airing of NBC's Meet the Press: "This civil rights thing's pretty hot ... this King really got screwed up Sunday with economic boycotts and all that."

(From a Black website...by the way) Big Grin
http://www.thegrio.com/politic...n-presidents-day.php
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Originally posted by O No!:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s...=2011-04-19-00-01-31

IRVINE, Calif. (AP) -- A Southern California GOP official who sent out an e-mail picturing President Barack Obama's face on the body of a baby chimpanzee issued an apology late Monday after a weekend of criticism that ended with a strongly worded public rebuke from the local Republican Party chairman, who also called for an ethics investigation into the incident.



The email sent on Friday by Davenport to a small group of GOP committee members shows an image posed like a family portrait, of chimpanzee parents and child, with Obama's face superimposed on the young chimp. Text beneath the picture reads, "Now you know why no birth certificate."

This is the second time in recent years that an Orange County political official has been in the news for Obama-themed emails.

In early 2009, Los Alamitos Mayor Dean Grose forwarded an email to a group of people from his personal account depicting a picture of the White House with a watermelon patch as its garden. Grose later resigned amid the backlash.



Now I'm not saying ALL Repubs are racist, but for people to deny that SOME hate Obama simply because he is black is dishonest and naive.

And another good point I'd like to make here is this - how STUPID these people are to think they can post something like this and get away with it! If they are that dumb, how could they ever do a good job for the people who elected them?!


NO...NO...NO!!! Not racist, they hate his WHITE half also. As a child, I bought fireworks that pictured a Negro child eating a water melon on the front of the package and absolutely no one thought it was racist including the Negro children who were buying fire crackers. It is a PLOY...just too easy to toss the RACE CARD out there when the discussion is NOT going your way.
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Originally posted by Winston Niles Rumfoord:
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Originally posted by TrueBlue:
Umm...again...I think there is some confussion here. First of all, JFK was the first to promote Civil Rights legislation and the REPUBLICANS (primarily in the South) fought tooth and nail against it. It is still that way today.....most civil right legislation is brought to the floor by Democrats and Republicans typically vote against it.

As for the KKK, the Democratic party HAS NOTHING to offer them. Why would they ever support a party who supports equal rights when they don't beleive in them? Do you expect us to beleive that the KKK was represented by a party who elected a Black man to run for President? OMG!

GO TO SCHOOL AND GET AN EDUCATION. And its Democrat NOT Democrate.

Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.

Martin Luther King was a Republican

The Republicans were instrumental in passing the 1964 Civil Rights act.


Yes, Lincoln was a Republican, but the parties were much different back then up through around the Civil Rights movement.

Dr. King WAS a Lincoln Republican PRIOR to Civil Rights movement based on Lincolns acheivements. Most African Americans would cringe at you saying that today because they are not the same parties.

Wallace was also a Democrat (unsure but he might have turned DIXIECRAT He definatly supported their agenda). Again, this is your talking PRE CIVIL RIGHTS. Things were much different.

This discussion reminds me a lot of the Hispanic disenfranchising going on now by the Republican Party.

Anyways, its really late and I'm not going to go into this. Beleifs in a lot of different issues have almost 360'd in both parties. What was then and what is now are two different things.

Democratic President JFK and Lyndon Johnson pushed for Civil Rights. LBJ got it and signed it. Liberal Republicans and Democrats supported it and conservative Democrats and Republicans opposed it. There aren't any liberal Republicans anymore.

Dixiecrats thereafter voted Republican at the national level and the Republicans implemented their "Southern Strategy."

Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote that:

"The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism."

He was referring to the 1964 Republican convention.
That ditzy California dingbat said "...at the time I received and forwarded the email, I didn't stop to think about the historic implications and other examples of how this could be offensive."

No one that dense and clueless should occupy any responsible position in any political party or governmental office.

No amount of dredging up Democratic racism from the 40s or 50s or even more recently will neutralize that. Her remarks should be examined for what SHE said, not for what anyone else of any party has said or done in the past. We all know both major parties have produced persons who have said racist things, but the subject matter here is the stupid racist utterances of a particular person. Playing the "So's yer old man" game gets so-o-o-o old and boring on this forum.
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Originally posted by O No!:
I've let this ride all day. The reason I posted this was to show that although SOME people don't like Obama because of his policies, there are many who dislike him because he is black. I firmly believe that if he balanced the budget, eliminated the deficit, got unemployment down to 0 percent, and cut taxes on top of it all, there are people who would still hate him, and all because he is black.

And I will bet we can find almost as many who hated GWB because he was white. You cannot eliminate racism. The election of a black president means nothing to me since I vote for policy, I don't care if he is as green blooded as Mr. Spock. the simple fact is that Barack Hussein Obama is a socialist with a chip on his shoulder and is dedicated to wealth redistribution. He has an agenda and a coalition he answers to, primariy the leftist liberals. His policies as not helping this country, and over 50% of the people agree. he is arrogant and thinks that the Progressive way is the only way.
True Blue,
The problem you have is that you see the party as supporting civil rights. The civil rights are already in place. What the Democratic party is after goes way beyond equality. They are trying to promote further distancing. Some even talk of reparations. They do not want to stop with equality, they want to punish those who had nothing to do with the previous ills of society. They know that by continuing to promise entitlements and easy immigration avenues they will help secure a voter base and perpetuate their residency in office.
No you are not being a party to the group who represents civil rights and equality at all.
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Originally posted by O No!:
I've let this ride all day. The reason I posted this was to show that although SOME people don't like Obama because of his policies, there are many who dislike him because he is black. I firmly believe that if he balanced the budget, eliminated the deficit, got unemployment down to 0 percent, and cut taxes on top of it all, there are people who would still hate him, and all because he is black.


O, he's only half black. I'm guessing his birth certificate says he's white.
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Originally posted by Shoals Resident:
I REALLY want to know what business TrueBlue has. Wonder if he REALLY doesn't need/want our business enough to put the business name on here. REALLY doubt it. It's REALLY different when you put your money where your mouth is.



Please, get real. You want my name, address and social securtity number too. My political views and business ethics have nothing to do with one another.
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
An interesting thought for Tru-Blue. Would it be racist to vote for a person based soley on his race?


I know where this is going.....but still for a person to vote SOLEY BASED on race...I would say that thats not only racist but small minded.

Did the African American community come out to vote for Obama? Yes. Would they have overwhelmingly voted Democrat anyways? Yes. You cannot say that they voted for him SOLEY based on race. I don't think the same would be true if he were a dark skinned Republican. Some probably would have but many wouldn't have. How many people went out and voted for McCain soley because he was white?

There has been at least one elections that I didn't vote at all because I didn't like either canidate. I wasn't motivated to go to the polls. And I voted Republican once. Go figure.
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
An interesting thought for Tru-Blue. Would it be racist to vote for a person based soley on his race?

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Sez Trueblue: I know where this is going.....but still for a person to vote SOLEY BASED on race...I would say that thats not only racist but small minded.

Did the African American community come out to vote for Obama? Yes. Would they have overwhelmingly voted Democrat anyways? Yes. You cannot say that they voted for him SOLEY based on race. I don't think the same would be true if he were a dark skinned Republican. Some probably would have but many wouldn't have. How many people went out and voted for McCain soley because he was white?

There has been at least one elections that I didn't vote at all because I didn't like either canidate. I wasn't motivated to go to the polls. And I voted Republican once. Go figure.


See. There you go again with the "race card". Roll Eyes
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Did the African American community come out to vote for Obama? Yes. Would they have overwhelmingly voted Democrat anyways? Yes.

And why do they always vote for democrats? How many only supported his even running for office because he's black? How many voted most likely for the first time because they had a black candidate? Now tell me this, why do they even call obama black? Wasn't his mother white? Why does obama call himself black? If you have parents from two different races aren't you of mixed race? The biggest racists in this deal? BHO and the ones that push the "lie" that he is black.

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