Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
quote:  Originally Posted by Dwight WoolyBugger:
quote:  Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
quote:    Originally Posted by Dwight WoolyBugger:
quote:   Originally Posted by FirenzeVeritas:

Since the very definition of "apostle" is one who had witnessed a risen Christ, how is it that we have apostles today?  Do these persons proclaim that they have seen Christ?  If not, they are not apostles.

That seems to be your definition but if you didnt (sic) watch the broadcast you missed a lot!  Many of the questions asked in this forum were answered! 

Hi Dwight,


Firenze is absolutely right.  That is the Biblical definition of an apostle -- one who walked with Jesus Christ in person, during His earthly ministry.  No such man is alive today!


In Acts 1:21-23 we find Peter and the other ten remaining apostles speaking of replacing Judas, "'Therefore it is necessary that of the men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us -- beginning with the baptism of John until the day that He was taken up from us -- one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection."   So they put forward two men, Joseph called Barsabbas (who was also called Justus), and Matthias."

And, Matthias was chosen.  Later, Jesus Christ replaced Matthias with the apostle Paul -- who met Jesus Christ IN PERSON on the road to Damascus.  


Does the Mormon church have ANY apostles who walked with Jesus Christ or personally met Jesus Christ -- DURING His earthly ministry?   No.  Then, the Mormon church has no apostles.  And, is so claiming, prove once again that Mormonism is a cult religion.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,  Bill  

If they told you that they did , you would probably call them liars. So what you so uptight about?

Hi Dwight,


If they told us they had lived and walked with Jesus Christ (He of John 1:1) during His earthly ministry -- first, we would ALL KNOW they are lying.  And, second, the guys in the white jackets would be coming for them.  Just curious, have you seen any "white jackets" in your neighborhood lately?


God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,



Bill, I wouldn't be talking about men in white coats coming for people.  One could point out that you quote from a book that no one can prove is written by whom you believe that it is, and many things you quote are as intangible as what others say.  I'm just saying you might want to reconsider saying things like that to people considering you ask everyone around you to believe everything you say as total fact.

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