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Well the wife and I did the bi-weekly shopping today. First stop at Wal-Mart looked some got cat litter and left the house. We went to Publix got an ad and started at it. There was deli Ham for 4.99 a pound with the BOGO flat bread so there was our lunch for today. Yes the meats are a little more expensive but Rago Sauce $2.09 was BOGO and the noodles were BOGO. So we do chicken alfredo one night and pasta and noodles another night. All in all Publix is still providing superiour service than our local Wal-Mart ever will. Also I did notice alot of the Wal-Mart crowd has moved to Publix. Thank You Bobby Irons for encourging Publix to come to Florence. Next we need a Fresh Market. 

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I have no idea how those on food stamps actually feeds their children on what they receive in food stamps. I know one family that is receiving food stamps and they have 2 kids, they recieve 390 dollars a month. The father works and the mom is disabled after a car accident that left her paralyzed on her right side. She also has some brain injuries that make it hard for her to do things we all take for granted. They never expected to be in this situation....I hate it when people generalize those on food stamps as lazy and unwilling to work. There are many that are doing the best they can.

 

I doubt the family that I know can afford to go to Publix and do their grocery shopping. You can rest assured MountainMan that you won't have to be subjected to many of those you deem beneath you.

Why do you condemn those on food stamps? They are just as good as you if not better, I'll bet if you needed help they would be the first to try and help because the poor know all about struggles. Of course if they see this post and know who you are they may not help. I will never help anyone who thinks they are better or superior to someone else simply because they are poor.

The faithful Walmart-"FoodstampCity" folks thankfully have not stepped foot in Publix yet. I have not seen their Beverly Hillbilly trucks at the parking lot as of yet. Thankfully Publix is catering to the working people of America and not the living off the government folks.

 

Originally Posted by MountainMan:

Well the wife and I did the bi-weekly shopping today. First stop at Wal-Mart looked some got cat litter and left the house. We went to Publix got an ad and started at it. There was deli Ham for 4.99 a pound with the BOGO flat bread so there was our lunch for today. Yes the meats are a little more expensive but Rago Sauce $2.09 was BOGO and the noodles were BOGO. So we do chicken alfredo one night and pasta and noodles another night. All in all Publix is still providing superiour service than our local Wal-Mart ever will. Also I did notice alot of the Wal-Mart crowd has moved to Publix. Thank You Bobby Irons for encourging Publix to come to Florence. Next we need a Fresh Market. 


 

 

I have used that ham often and its pretty good. I was in a Publix @ 7am myself this morning had a cup of coffe while shopping and did spend $50 and picked up the $50 gas card for $40 as well.

Originally Posted by ms. wonka:
Why do you condemn those on food stamps? They are just as good as you if not better, I'll bet if you needed help they would be the first to try and help because the poor know all about struggles. Of course if they see this post and know who you are they may not help. I will never help anyone who thinks they are better or superior to someone else simply because they are poor.

The faithful Walmart-"FoodstampCity" folks thankfully have not stepped foot in Publix yet. I have not seen their Beverly Hillbilly trucks at the parking lot as of yet. Thankfully Publix is catering to the working people of America and not the living off the government folks.

 


Yes they tend to empty of the meat market of the prime pickings before heading to the cashier.

Prime example of "Walmart Foodstamper Abuse". I worked for Walmart for 15 years and wife for 17 years. We would daily see those unwilling and ABLE!!!! to work come in with foodstamps and disability checks regularly. They would buy STEAKS to feed their dogs and chicken to feed their cats for a fact. That IS food stamp abuse and when they drive brand new cars and trucks. Yes you are I are paying dearly for their vehicles. Walmart "Here Come The Foodstamp Hillbillies!"

Originally Posted by ms. wonka:
Why do you condemn those on food stamps? They are just as good as you if not better, I'll bet if you needed help they would be the first to try and help because the poor know all about struggles. Of course if they see this post and know who you are they may not help. I will never help anyone who thinks they are better or superior to someone else simply because they are poor.

The faithful Walmart-"FoodstampCity" folks thankfully have not stepped foot in Publix yet. I have not seen their Beverly Hillbilly trucks at the parking lot as of yet. Thankfully Publix is catering to the working people of America and not the living off the government folks.

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Sad isn't it Ms. wonka. The hate and greed of this country is eating us alive. We wonder why our children have such a disregard for human life and then you hear these adults talk about the less fortunate as if they are less than human.

 

The percentage of people that are taking advantage of the welfare system are very small. To lump them in with the majority of honest (working) people who need assistance is just wrong on so many levels.

Originally Posted by MountainMan:

Prime example of "Walmart Foodstamper Abuse". I worked for Walmart for 15 years and wife for 17 years. We would daily see those unwilling and ABLE!!!! to work come in with foodstamps and disability checks regularly. They would buy STEAKS to feed their dogs and chicken to feed their cats for a fact. That IS food stamp abuse and when they drive brand new cars and trucks. Yes you are I are paying dearly for their vehicles. Walmart "Here Come The Foodstamp Hillbillies!"

I think I would rather be a Walmart Hillbilly than someone that has to service the Walmart Hillbillies. 

BTW, why didn't you just buy your cat litter at Publix?  Trying to skimp on the kitty, are you? 

Originally Posted by MountainMan:

Prime example of "Walmart Foodstamper Abuse". I worked for Walmart for 15 years and wife for 17 years. We would daily see those unwilling and ABLE!!!! to work come in with foodstamps and disability checks regularly. They would buy STEAKS to feed their dogs and chicken to feed their cats for a fact. That IS food stamp abuse and when they drive brand new cars and trucks. Yes you are I are paying dearly for their vehicles. Walmart "Here Come The Foodstamp Hillbillies!"

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How did you know which ones had jobs and which ones didn't? Did your customers regularly inform you on what they had planned for the food they bought? Seems kind of strange that they would tell you what they planned to do with their steaks and chicken. Did you also follow them to their cars and see what they drove? Weren't you supposed to be working? Do you know what percentage of Wal-Mart employees are on food stamps? The wages that are paid there (unless you are in management or work in the office) are not enough for an average size family to live on.

 

Next time I am in Wal-Mart I am going to be sure and inform my cashier what I intend to do with my purchases....I will also tell them my work history and what kind of car I drive. I had no idea that was the norm or I would have been doing it all along.

Originally Posted by Jankinonya:
Originally Posted by MountainMan:

Prime example of "Walmart Foodstamper Abuse". I worked for Walmart for 15 years and wife for 17 years. We would daily see those unwilling and ABLE!!!! to work come in with foodstamps and disability checks regularly. They would buy STEAKS to feed their dogs and chicken to feed their cats for a fact. That IS food stamp abuse and when they drive brand new cars and trucks. Yes you are I are paying dearly for their vehicles. Walmart "Here Come The Foodstamp Hillbillies!"

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How did you know which ones had jobs and which ones didn't? Did your customers regularly inform you on what they had planned for the food they bought? Seems kind of strange that they would tell you what they planned to do with their steaks and chicken. Did you also follow them to their cars and see what they drove? Weren't you supposed to be working? Do you know what percentage of Wal-Mart employees are on food stamps? The wages that are paid there (unless you are in management or work in the office) are not enough for an average size family to live on.

 

Next time I am in Wal-Mart I am going to be sure and inform my cashier what I intend to do with my purchases....I will also tell them my work history and what kind of car I drive. I had no idea that was the norm or I would have been doing it all along.

You beat me to the punch.........................AGAIN 

 

I think the next time I go in, it would be prudent for me to have my verification of employment and financial statements in hand........Just in case.........

 

Do you think it would save time if I took a picture of my "hillbilly truck" and presented that to the cashier?

LOL great minds think a like!

 

Seriously this brought back a memory from a few years ago in Wal-Mart. I was in line and there was a young mother with a child that looked to be about 4 at the register and a man between us. She had groceries and when it was totaled up she didn't have enough on her EBT card or the little bit of cash she had in her purse to cover it. She started trying to pick what she could do without. Of course there were some cookies and some pudding that she went for first. The little girl in the buggy started crying because I am sure those were meant for her. The woman was so embarrassed and also having a very hard time trying to decide what food they could go without. There was nothing so frivolous that it didnt' matter that I could see. The man in front of me spoke up and said he would like to help her pay for the groceries. (at this point I started tearing up) The young mother tried to say no, but he insisted. I spoke up and said put the cookies and pudding back and I will help too. I think we all left there feeling better about the world. I know I did.

 

Instead of kicking people when they are down how bout giving them a hand to get back up?

Isn't is amazing how people like Mountain Man  somehow can function as all-knowing oracles about such matters as the family economics of persons passing through a checkout line?  Jank hit it on the head with this comment:  "Seems kind of strange that they would tell you what they planned to do with their steaks and chicken. Did you also follow them to their cars and see what they drove?"


Yep, those talky hillbilly welfare cheats just had to be so proud of feeding steak to their yard dogs that they could not restrain from blurting it out for the cashier and other customers to hear. Porterhouse for the pit bulls!  Ribeyes for the rotweilers! Gotta keep those pups in fighting trim!


I know just what Mountain Man is feeding off of--his prejudices!

We just fed our grandkids roast beef, mashed potatoes, peas and corn for supper, and it's probably the first decent meal they've had since Christmas.  Our daughter lives on tacos, chicken strips/w/fries and frozen pizza. Dessert is a huge bucket of candy paid for by her $520 monthly food stamps.

 

Too bad so many young people have a fast food mentality--and don't eat food that's healthy for their gastrointestinal tract.  They waste all their food stamps on crap food--and luxury items like the finest Belgium chocolates and fancy bakery breads @ Publix.

 

I'd like to see entitlement reform start with a 25% rollback in the food stamp program, and prohibit anything with sugar in it to be covered.  And, let them drink tea.

 

 

Originally Posted by earthmomma:

Isn't it amazing that a self avowed atheist like Jank behaves so much llke a Christian -not the first or last time I am sure!  Don't stop, Jank!

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I pointed that out to our "resident preacher" just other day momma. 

 

Gotta love the love she has in her heart...........

Wow. i had no idea there was such a distaste for those on food stamps, how sad! if a family chooses to buy steak for their dog rather than food for themselves, that doesn't bother me at all. how they spend their allotment is up to them. and when it's gone for the month, it's gone.


my brother is mentally challenged since birth, with the mind of a 5yr old. his food stamp allotment over the years has varied from $38-$100 a month. much of his SSI has to go for food too. many people don't receive as much as some would think.

if you've never had to rely on food stamps, be grateful. just have some compassion for those not as fortunate as you, because someday, through no fault of your own, it might be you....


also, about ~CAT LITTER~.... i have rescued cats for many years, so i've tried all kinds of 'litter'. a few years ago i found the best and cheapest to buy...'Equine Pine' is sawdust pellets used in horse stalls. it breaks down into sawdust as the cats use it. there is no odor, no little granules tracked all over the house, and it can be flushed down the toilet. even with 7 cats (they all love it), a 40lb bag lasts me at least 2 months (barely cover the bottom of the box, it expands as it breaks down). it's less than $8 at Longrider (usually a bit cheaper), and hardly more at the Co-op in Florence. i was spending that much a week using regular litter. at that price, it's certainly worth trying

Originally Posted by Bamaman1:

We just fed our grandkids roast beef, mashed potatoes, peas and corn for supper, and it's probably the first decent meal they've had since Christmas.  Our daughter lives on tacos, chicken strips/w/fries and frozen pizza. Dessert is a huge bucket of candy paid for by her $520 monthly food stamps.

 

Too bad so many young people have a fast food mentality--and don't eat food that's healthy for their gastrointestinal tract.  They waste all their food stamps on crap food--and luxury items like the finest Belgium chocolates and fancy bakery breads @ Publix.

 

I'd like to see entitlement reform start with a 25% rollback in the food stamp program, and prohibit anything with sugar in it to be covered.  And, let them drink tea.

 

 

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Un freaking believeable..........you want your grandchildren to suffer because of their mothers mistakes? 

 

Question is, where did your daughter develop her "fast food mentality"?

Originally Posted by Bamaman1:

We just fed our grandkids roast beef, mashed potatoes, peas and corn for supper, and it's probably the first decent meal they've had since Christmas.  Our daughter lives on tacos, chicken strips/w/fries and frozen pizza. Dessert is a huge bucket of candy paid for by her $520 monthly food stamps.

 

Too bad so many young people have a fast food mentality--and don't eat food that's healthy for their gastrointestinal tract.  They waste all their food stamps on crap food--and luxury items like the finest Belgium chocolates and fancy bakery breads @ Publix.

 

I'd like to see entitlement reform start with a 25% rollback in the food stamp program, and prohibit anything with sugar in it to be covered.  And, let them drink tea.

 

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I'm with Ubu, if they cut 25% of the food stamps your daughter gets your grandchildren would suffer. Many children who come from homes where food stamps are received also live in a single parent home. When that parent is working as many hours as they can to make ends meet they are not always home to cook meals from scratch. Could it be that your daughter can't afford to feed her children healthy? Cheap food is not necessarily healthy food, healthy food is usually more expensive than frozen pizzas and chicken tenders.

 

  Have you ever heard of Pack them with Love? Its a local group that packs backpacks with easily prepared or no preparation foods like, pudding, crackers, granola bars, peanut butter and jelly, etc...things a child can feed themselves on without turning on a stove or knowing how to cook from scratch. They send these packs home with children who receive free lunch at school or those that teachers let them know are in need. They get them every Friday when they leave school for the weekend.That is also what many single working parents buy so that when they are not at home with their children they know their kids can still eat with out doing anything dangerous or using knives or can openers.

 

If you truly feel that your grandchildren aren't getting enough nutritious food what are you doing about it? Other than the occasional meal.

Originally Posted by Ubu:
Originally Posted by earthmomma:

Isn't it amazing that a self avowed atheist like Jank behaves so much llke a Christian -not the first or last time I am sure!  Don't stop, Jank!

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I pointed that out to our "resident preacher" just other day momma. 

 

Gotta love the love she has in her heart...........

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Thanks to both of you, but I don't think of it as behaving like a Christian or it having anything to do with being atheist. I think its about being compassionate to others and not judging them so harshly, especially when you haven't walked a mile in their shoes. I have met very few people in my life that are happy or proud of the fact that they are on food stamps. Its not some lavish lifestyle. Most are working people who don't make enough money to feed themselves and their families.

 

I grew up poor and we were fortunate enough to never have to turn to the government for help. We had gardens and we raised animals for food. I also come from a very large and close family that would never have let us go without food. Not everyone was as fortunate as I was.

Originally Posted by Bamaman1:

We just fed our grandkids roast beef, mashed potatoes, peas and corn for supper, and it's probably the first decent meal they've had since Christmas.  Our daughter lives on tacos, chicken strips/w/fries and frozen pizza. Dessert is a huge bucket of candy paid for by her $520 monthly food stamps.

 

Too bad so many young people have a fast food mentality--and don't eat food that's healthy for their gastrointestinal tract.  They waste all their food stamps on crap food--and luxury items like the finest Belgium chocolates and fancy bakery breads @ Publix.

 

I'd like to see entitlement reform start with a 25% rollback in the food stamp program, and prohibit anything with sugar in it to be covered.  And, let them drink tea.

 

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Send her to culinary school. Seriously. She'll learn the "joy of cooking", how easy it actually is to cook from "scratch", how it can be done easily and quickly and less expensively than eating out, and how much better it tastes, and how much healthier it is for you. Sometimes it's not a fast food mentality but just not knowing how to "pull meals together". This is not to say your wife is not a good cook or didn't try to show her, but when they're young they think they'll just wake up some day knowing everything they need to know.

Originally Posted by thehippiegirl is gone.:

Wow. i had no idea there was such a distaste for those on food stamps, how sad! if a family chooses to buy steak for their dog rather than food for themselves, that doesn't bother me at all. how they spend their allotment is up to them. and when it's gone for the month, it's gone.

 

I think the point people were trying to make was if they can feed their pet steak they might not need foodstamps.  Also, a family on foodstamps gets free breakfast, lunch and sometimes snack for the children in school thereby reducing their food costs thus stretching their foodstamps. Also WIC up to age 5 stretches their foodstamps further. Denying that foodstamps are abused is naive. Irresponsible parents will always use their children to get more and more. Foodstamps should be a temp. thing for the healthy not a lifestyle.

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JJ I don't think anyone here even suggested that the food stamp service is never abused.  I am glad to be living in a country where we don't let our children go hungry. Aren't you?  Free lunch in school and in some schools breakfast and the WIC program are great services. Those programs can not completely provide for a childs nutrition alone though. Weekends, summers, and holidays children still need to eat. WIC only provides some basic foods. 1 gallon of milk a week is not usually enough for a growing child. I know it was not for mine. They went through 2 or 3 a week. Milk cost almost 5 dollars a gallon these days. Food stamp recipients also have to take part in a work program. If you leave a job without good reason then you will loose your food stamps. I don't think many would consider it a very appealing lifestyle.

Holla,

What an obtuse question. No sane person wants to see a child go hungry. My quandry is how to feed the child while holding the parents accountable.

The point I was trying to make was that the free lunch program and WIC make the foodstamp dollar go much farther. The free lunch program provides breakfast, lunch and often an afternoon snack. The program has also extended to providing a free lunch during the summer break in many districts and the program in this area that sends food home on the weekends further extends the foodstamp dollar. The end result is various programs will provide the child at least 10-12 meals a week before a foodstamp dollar is spent.

 

The WIC program was never intended to provide the recipient with all of their nutritional needs. The current package for 1-4 yr olds provides for 4 gal of milk, 1 gal of juice per mo. per child. Kids don't drink near enough water and don't need milk or juice everytime they want a drink. The package also contains 1 doz eggs, 2 lbs of whole wheat bread and 32 oz of cereal. All of this exclusive of foodstamps thus stretching the foodstamp dollar even further.

 

The foodstamp work program is a sham. The ones who bother to show up don't do anything and the others often come up with a phoney medical excuse. They know that if they have kids no one is going to take their foodstamps away.

 

The WIC program is also greatly abused. I mean who is going to go up against kids and preg./postnatal women? I have seen, before the cards, WIC coupons traded and sold in the WIC clinics. Women falsify the WIC information provided by their health care provider. Claim children who didn't exist. Claim other people's children as their own. Forge the name of their health care provider. Store owners ring up a loaf of bread as whole wheat when it was plain white bread. Dealing with a county WIC proram director, not in this area, who refused to admit that the possibility that fraud could even exist in WIC.

 

So yes, I'm a little cynical after dealing with this on an almost daily basis for over 20 yrs. And I'm tiired of the irresponsible parents who subject their children to this lifestyle. Yes, it is a lifestyle, and while it might not be an appealing lifestyle for either of us it most certainly holds an attraction for many people.

 

 

 

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How do you hijack a hijacked thread?  LOL!  I taught ragamuffin kids for years.  Ther mommas spent the child support money to outfit themseves in the latest fashons.. I assume the money was also spent for any other thing MOMMA wanted.  There should be a way to insure child support money is spent on the children - but there isn't.  I loved my ragamuffin friends!  Sometimes I saw them at Walmart!

The foodstamp work program is a sham. The ones who bother to show up don't do anything and the others often come up with a phoney medical excuse. They know that if they have kids no one is going to take their foodstamps away.

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I've never heard of a food stamp work program, how is it supposed to work? 


Originally Posted by MountainMan:

LOL this outta bring some red necks who refuse to work out. I am not talking about not able to work but refuse. The one who live off welfare able to work, foodstamps who refuse to go to work. Ride On Walmart Beverly Hillbillies.

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Could you perhaps generate a sensibly-phrased revision of that clutter you just put up?

Going to publix later today too. Almost every store has something to offer. I'm going to the dollar tree too because I need poster paper, a few plastic rulers and plastic or glass plates for cakes . Easy in, easy out, no parking in a 40 acre field and taking an hour to pick up something like it would be with walmart, or paying three times the price for the items like it would be at staples, walmart or publix. When I need copy paper or other office supplies I'll go to staples, groceries at publix. I like target for some things they have that other stores don't stock. 

 

I don't really care how people who are actually eligible for assistance spend that money, but I do think everyone should be cost and health aware, and if they are spending a lot on frivolous things or junk food, it's not a good thing. My mom used to say, and I still believe the same, take care of your needs and let the wants fall to the side. But that goes for anyone.

And yes, no doubt about it, the system is broken and full of fraud, and a disgrace, and because we're only human that makes all of us wonder if that person is doing all they can to help themselves, or if they're just using the system. So sorry, I really don't see anything wrong with thinking those things, it's natural.

A few years ago it was a trend for TV stations to do reports on panhandlers and people that claimed they needed handouts, turning out to be people who were making quite a good living at the scam. Remember those little candy boxes that used to be on all the counters in all the stores-help the needy kids by "donating" what you can for a piece of candy?  People were making a killing off of those things because all they legally had to give to charity was such a small amount it was pitiful. So of course people are wary, there are more scams out there than you could ever uncover, and if they're taking our tax money we have the right to question where every dime of it goes. 

  

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