Recall Petitions Filed Against Two More Wisconsin Republican Senators

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Originally posted by 1130:
the Wisconsin Senators should be thanked for standing up to the extortion of Unions and Govt employees. It is time to stop unions from protecting employees that should be fired. the unions are just about filling their pockets.

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Originally posted by 1130:
the Wisconsin Senators should be thanked for standing up to the extortion of Unions and Govt employees. It is time to stop unions from protecting employees that should be fired. the unions are just about filling their pockets.

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Originally posted by 1130:
the Wisconsin Senators should be thanked for standing up to the extortion of Unions and Govt employees. It is time to stop unions from protecting employees that should be fired. the unions are just about filling their pockets.

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Originally posted by CageTheElephant:
Hmmm...coincidence?
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Originally posted by TrueBlue:

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Originally posted by 1130:
the Wisconsin Senators should be thanked for standing up to the extortion of Unions and Govt employees. It is time to stop unions from protecting employees that should be fired. the unions are just about filling their pockets.

Really? Do you realize that the most Junior member of Congress makes $184,000.00 a year for their 80 days of work. And after 3 years in they receive 80% of the top salary they achieved while in Congress for the rest of their lives WITH annual cost of living increases. And you and I are paying that. Pretty shred negotiating if you ask me. Where's your outrage? I mean, that does come out of the taxes we pay.

Executives receive huge pensions, severence pays, stocks, bonuses' planes, vacation homes.... All negotiated. Wheres your opposition to that? Afterall, at least that figures into the prices you pay for the products they produce.

But you don't feel that the average everyday 40 hour a week blue collar worker deserves to negotiate pay and pension? You don't think teachers, firefighters, policeman, nurses, coal miners deserve the same considerations?

What about work conditions? Do they have a right to negotiate for safe working conditions?

This just absolutly makes me sick.

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Originally posted by TrueBlue:

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Originally posted by CageTheElephant:
Hmmm...coincidence?
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Glen Beck has taught you well.

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Glen Beck has taught you well.

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Originally posted by elinterventor01:

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Originally posted by TrueBlue:

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Originally posted by 1130:
the Wisconsin Senators should be thanked for standing up to the extortion of Unions and Govt employees. It is time to stop unions from protecting employees that should be fired. the unions are just about filling their pockets.

Really? Do you realize that the most Junior member of Congress makes $184,000.00 a year for their 80 days of work. And after 3 years in they receive 80% of the top salary they achieved while in Congress for the rest of their lives WITH annual cost of living increases. And you and I are paying that. Pretty shred negotiating if you ask me. Where's your outrage? I mean, that does come out of the taxes we pay.

Executives receive huge pensions, severence pays, stocks, bonuses' planes, vacation homes.... All negotiated. Wheres your opposition to that? Afterall, at least that figures into the prices you pay for the products they produce.

But you don't feel that the average everyday 40 hour a week blue collar worker deserves to negotiate pay and pension? You don't think teachers, firefighters, policeman, nurses, coal miners deserve the same considerations?

What about work conditions? Do they have a right to negotiate for safe working conditions?

This just absolutly makes me sick.

Don't know what alternate reality you got your info on congressional pensions, but not in this dimension.

"According to the Congressional Research Service, 413 retired Members of Congress were receiving federal pensions based fully or in part on their congressional service as of Oct. 1, 2006. Of this number, 290 had retired under CSRS and were receiving an average annual pension of $60,972. A total of 123 Members had retired with service under both CSRS and FERS or with service under FERS only. Their average annual pension was $35,952 in 2006."

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/...ss/a/congresspay.htm

CSRS pensions ended as of 31 Dec 1986. They get a pension for 30 years service at 55 and lower years at an older age.

FERS includes social security, a 401(k) plan and a small federal pension of about $10,000 to $12,000 annually.

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Originally posted by TrueBlue:

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Originally posted by elinterventor01:

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Originally posted by TrueBlue:

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Originally posted by 1130:
the Wisconsin Senators should be thanked for standing up to the extortion of Unions and Govt employees. It is time to stop unions from protecting employees that should be fired. the unions are just about filling their pockets.

Really? Do you realize that the most Junior member of Congress makes $184,000.00 a year for their 80 days of work. And after 3 years in they receive 80% of the top salary they achieved while in Congress for the rest of their lives WITH annual cost of living increases. And you and I are paying that. Pretty shred negotiating if you ask me. Where's your outrage? I mean, that does come out of the taxes we pay.

Executives receive huge pensions, severence pays, stocks, bonuses' planes, vacation homes.... All negotiated. Wheres your opposition to that? Afterall, at least that figures into the prices you pay for the products they produce.

But you don't feel that the average everyday 40 hour a week blue collar worker deserves to negotiate pay and pension? You don't think teachers, firefighters, policeman, nurses, coal miners deserve the same considerations?

What about work conditions? Do they have a right to negotiate for safe working conditions?

This just absolutly makes me sick.

Don't know what alternate reality you got your info on congressional pensions, but not in this dimension.

"According to the Congressional Research Service, 413 retired Members of Congress were receiving federal pensions based fully or in part on their congressional service as of Oct. 1, 2006. Of this number, 290 had retired under CSRS and were receiving an average annual pension of $60,972. A total of 123 Members had retired with service under both CSRS and FERS or with service under FERS only. Their average annual pension was $35,952 in 2006."

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/...ss/a/congresspay.htm

CSRS pensions ended as of 31 Dec 1986. They get a pension for 30 years service at 55 and lower years at an older age.

FERS includes social security, a 401(k) plan and a small federal pension of about $10,000 to $12,000 annually.

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The amount of a congressperson's pension depends on the years of service and the average of the highest 3 years of his or her salary. By law, the starting amount of a Member's retirement annuity may not exceed 80% of his or her final salary.

According to the Congressional Research Service, 413 retired Members of Congress were receiving federal pensions based fully or in part on their congressional service as of Oct. 1, 2006. Of this number, 290 had retired under CSRS and were receiving an average annual pension of $60,972.00 A total of 123 Members had retired with service under both CSRS and FERS or with service under FERS only. Their average annual pension was $35,952.00in 2006.

TO BE CLEAR that is $22,103,976.00 PER YEARas of 2006 that WE ARE PAYING IN TAXES for pensions for CONGRESS for their 80 days of work they do each year. How did this get NEGOTIATED? Wheres the outrage? Congressmen are deserving or pensions but teachers, cops, firefighters and cops who work 40+hr weeks for years are not?

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Originally posted by Opie Cunningham:
Right on! Power to the People!

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Originally posted by 1130:
the Wisconsin Senators should be thanked for standing up to the extortion of Unions and Govt employees. It is time to stop unions from protecting employees that should be fired. the unions are just about filling their pockets.

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Originally posted by JimiHendrix:

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Originally posted by 1130:
the Wisconsin Senators should be thanked for standing up to the extortion of Unions and Govt employees. It is time to stop unions from protecting employees that should be fired. the unions are just about filling their pockets.

Let this be a lesson to you. If you had joined the union, you would probably still have a job.

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Sez trueblue: Your blaming hard working Americans for CEOs sending our jobs overseas? Because they are not willing to work for peanuts like they will overseas? For real? Is that what your saying?

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Originally posted by ferrellj:

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Originally posted by Opie Cunningham:
Right on! Power to the People!

You mean Power to the Union Bosses.

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Sez opie: Hitler hated trade unions too.

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Originally posted by CageTheElephant:

Godwin's law
Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] which has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."[3][2] In other words, Godwin put forth the hyperbolic observation that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope— someone inevitably criticizes some point made in the discussion by comparing it to beliefs held by Hitler and the Nazis.
I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler or to Nazis to think a bit harder about the Holocaust," Godwin has written.[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law