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As superstition fades, and knowledge increases, religion finds itself on the defensive, necessarily, more and more often.  Even the New Testament bewails witches.

 

The tide of knowledge is inexorable.  And, as knowledge gains its rightful place in the human zeitgeist, the insufficient substitute, religion, must be displaced.  We are witnessing the ongoing growth of the human species.  Allah, Jehovah, and Moses, to name but a few, will soon be relegated to the dusty books of mythology.  They will be in the company of Zeus, Thor, and the ju-ju of the snowy mountain.

 

You can say you were there when.

 

DF

Make time for great justice.  Expect us.

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In 1966 Time magazine asked "Is God Dead?" and followed a few years later with "Is God coming back to life?".  Voltaire said, "One hundred years from my day there will not be a Bible in the earth except one that is looked upon by an antiquarian curiosity seeker."  He died in 1778.

Don't hold your breath, my portly friend.  The Truth has a way of hanging around.
Originally Posted by Chuck Norris:
In 1966 Time magazine asked "Is God Dead?" and followed a few years later with "Is God coming back to life?".  Voltaire said, "One hundred years from my day there will not be a Bible in the earth except one that is looked upon by an antiquarian curiosity seeker."  He died in 1778.

Don't hold your breath, my portly friend.  The Truth has a way of hanging around.

Voltaire always was a bit ahead of his time.  Let's just say he was optimistic.

That the Bible will eventually find its place between the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Iliad is only a matter of time, not substance.  As a work of truth, it is indefensible.

 

DF

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Originally Posted by Chuck Norris:
In 1966 Time magazine asked "Is God Dead?" and followed a few years later with "Is God coming back to life?".  Voltaire said, "One hundred years from my day there will not be a Bible in the earth except one that is looked upon by an antiquarian curiosity seeker."  He died in 1778.

Don't hold your breath, my portly friend.  The Truth has a way of hanging around.

Voltaire always was a bit ahead of his time.  Let's just say he was optimistic.

That the Bible will eventually find its place between the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Iliad is only a matter of time, not substance.  As a work of truth, it is indefensible.

 

DF

 

 

Slim, Slim...Slim. YOU, of ALL people should know...there will always be religion. There will always be religion associated with the Bible. Use logic and reason. Think MAN!   

Face it. Wishful thinking...does not reality make.

Relax and enjoy the ride.

Release,

 

You're right, of course, but there will not always be religion in the influential position is has held for the last 2000 years.  It will be a long struggle, but demonstrable knowledge must prevail.

 

You do realize, don't you, that there are those still remaining who admit to believing in the Greek, Roman, and Druid pantheons?

 

Bell curve.  That's all I have to say.

 

DF

The propensity toward religion is genetically encoded.

 

If Galileo couldn't take down the Catholic Church, there isn't much hope for evolutionary theory, quantum mechanics, or even something as accepted as Newtonian mechanics to do away with religion.

 

And sadly, as long as there are oppressed peoples, or even just people who just need or want more, organized religion will gather them in to further oppress them.

 

Hi Deep,

 

Wow!  You really know how to prove God is dead -- ask Richard Dawkins!!   And, have Christophor Hitchens second the motion.   That is about as convincing as asking a five year old if ice cream is bad.   You really have run out of options, haven't you? 

 

Well, now that you have painted yourself into a corner -- maybe you can take time to turn to the Bible for the Truth.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Originally Posted by Chuck Norris:
In 1966 Time magazine asked "Is God Dead?" and followed a few years later with "Is God coming back to life?".  Voltaire said, "One hundred years from my day there will not be a Bible in the earth except one that is looked upon by an antiquarian curiosity seeker."  He died in 1778.

Don't hold your breath, my portly friend.  The Truth has a way of hanging around.

Voltaire always was a bit ahead of his time.  Let's just say he was optimistic.

That the Bible will eventually find its place between the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Iliad is only a matter of time, not substance.  As a work of truth, it is indefensible.

 

DF

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Voltaire also said, If I could read the original book of Isaiah, I could believe

in God. 

The Dead Sea Scrolls too late, or would he still not believe?

 

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
quote:   Originally Posted by CrustyMac:

Really, Bill, give up on analogies.


Why, Crusty?

 

They ALWAYS seem to get YOUR attention!   And, what more could I ask -- than to have the leading Religion Forum "God Is Dead!" supporter notice my writings?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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They get my attention because they are so bad to the point of being senseless.  I'm trying to help you.

 

Have another blissed day.

The Scriptures are the verbally inspired Word of God. This view has been entertained by reverent students of the Holy Writings for multiplied centuries. Fritz Rienecker noted that the Jewish “rabbinical teaching was that the Spirit of God rested on and in the prophets and spoke through them so that their words did not come from themselves, but from the mouth of God and they spoke and wrote in the Holy Spirit. The early church was in entire agreement with this view” (1980, 2:301).

Let us therefore exalt the Holy Scriptures as the living Word of God (Hebrews 4:12), and acknowledge them as the only authoritative source of religious guidance.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=13&article=411

There are sixty-six books commonly accepted as Scripture—the divinely inspired Word of God. Origen (c. 185-254), a prolific early Christian writer, noted a commonly accepted list of 27 New Testament books, indicating that by the second or third century, the New Testament canon was established (McGarvey, 1974, 1:66). There are many other books, beside the New Testament canon, that are considered inspired by some scholars, but not all (A.P. Staff, 2003, p. 1). The Bible is complete as it is, sufficient for the spiritual needs of Christians (2 Timothy 3:16-17; Luke 21:33; John 12:48).http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=13&article=1179

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXOvYn1OAL0

 

If Adam and Eve really were the progenitors of the entire human race, we would have been bred out of existence quickly.  Evolution is the study or populations, which makes our history possible.

 

Adam and Eve are proven to be mythological.  And, because there is no Adam and Eve, there is no Original Sin from which Jesus died to save us.

 

Move over, Thor, make room for Jesus.

 

DF

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXOvYn1OAL0

 

If Adam and Eve really were the progenitors of the entire human race, we would have been bred out of existence quickly.  Evolution is the study or populations, which makes our history possible.

 

Adam and Eve are proven to be mythological.  And, because there is no Adam and Eve, there is no Original Sin from which Jesus died to save us.

 

Move over, Thor, make room for Jesus.

 

DF

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Is THAT why everybody down here pretty much looks the same???

 Evolutionary biochemist Franklin Harold, professor emeritus at Colorado State University, admitted as much in his 2001 book, The Way of the Cell, when he wrote:

Of all the unsolved mysteries remaining in science, the most consequential may be the origin of life...a stubborn problem with no solution in sight. There is, indeed, a large and growing literature of books and articles devoted to this subject, many with theories to propound.... What makes the origin of life so intractable? The object is to discover what transpired in the exceedingly remote past, under circumstances that one can hardly imagine.... It bears repeating that we know very little for certain, and that it is seldom possible to formulate hypotheses that can be falsified by experiment; the opinions of scholars are, therefore, colored by personal beliefs about what should have happened, and even about what is meant by “life” (2001, pp. 235,236,239, emp. added). Evolutionary biochemist Franklin Harold, professor emeritus at Colorado State University, admitted as much in his 2001 book, The Way of the Cell, when he wrote:

http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=9&article=1040

OK, way to change the subject.

 

The origin of life is unknown, but it seems to be possible through biochemistry.  But let's say we still don't know.  Why does that imply a god?  That is a classic God-of-the-gaps answer.  Such an answer is an insult to both human intelligence and god.

You should be careful about assigning ignorance to god.  Every time we learn something, god's job gets smaller.

 

DF

NS, do you deny that Adam was the first to be called ‘man’?

If so give us the name of the first man.

 

Describe for us a possible event where something looked up and said “you are a man”.

 

Hmm, no that scenario won’t work \; what would be able to ask such a question but another reasoning man ? ……….so did male or female come first? Could the first female look up and say you are a man…………but what would she be basing her observation on?

The paradox is unsolvable and the ‘first man’cannot be tested scientifically.

That leaves evolution as the origin of man impossible.

 

and above in your post: you have no problem seeming something to be the case.

 

I'll bet you have a problem with someone saying there seems to be a God.

Last edited by okuok
Originally Posted by Gnu:

@ Not Shallow Not Slim - Where do you find the strenth to keep answering such asininity?

 

 

 

My first thoughts were that it was a chemical imbalance, coupled with some strong "spirits".

Now, I think it's just repressed childhood anger, from not being held enough...being sent to school with the wrong haircut...or getting a Murray for Xmas when the other boys got Schwinns...

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