Removing The "Smoke Screen" From Alleged Bible Discrepancies

Thanks Bill, Kyle is a good friend of mine and I wish you could be here this September to watch Kyle savage atheistic Blair Scott who affirms ‘God does not exist” at our great university here in Florence.

You friend Kyle is as nutty as you are. Why would any sane person listen to him. He has nothing to say that has meaning in the real world.

Hi Jimi,

 

You remind me very much of the little kid who sits in class at elementary school, throwing spit balls in an attempt to get attention.  Let me offer a suggestion.  Try actually entering into an a discussion with an intelligent thought, comment, or question -- and, just possibly, others will begin to view you as an adult and begin to respond.  But, your barbs and pithy comments only look to us like childish spit balls.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Hi Bill,
You remind me of an idiot. Rant and rave and never have anything meaningful to say. You ignore any questions that are asked. You ignore anything that doesn't conform to you twisted view of religion.

Having met Kyle on the sidewalk outside Rosies, in Downtown Florence, on First Friday's I found him to be very intelligent and determined.  It matters not what Church he is affiliated with for his ability to convey the Christian standpoint is very detailed and accurate.  As for the debate with the atheist I shall reserve opinion for later.  I did watch the last debate on God, at the University, and that debate, in my opinion, was not handled well by the Christian representative who allowed himself to get trapped into the trap of trying to atone for Old Testament acts of God.  He spent more time trying to defend actions of God as if God needed any defense or trying to define God in Physical terms which is not possible. 

 

God, Himself, knew well that man seeks Physical proof and Physical evidence and refelected His (God's) wisdom when He directed Moses to instruct them that "I AM" sent him.   "I AM" is as defined a definition of God as could be expected.  There is no sex, no nationality, no color assigned and no Human Name given but rather an acknowledgement of existence.

 

Kyle should do well and is, in my mind, much more capable of catching the traps that are laid to fall into.  Kyle should be able to draw the distinction between Spiritual Realm and Physical Realm and their capabilities or lack of them.  If anyone is capable of debating, for Christians, it is Kyle so I look forward to the next debate.  Either way I doubt it will change minds.  Pre-bias on both sides will already confirm in people's minds who wins or prevails and the actual outcome will most likely not change that preconceived perception.  As for capability though Kyle should have the atheist on his A-Game and know enough not to get trapped therefore present our strongest case for God.

 

In my mind, with respect to representing God a win is if the element of doubt could be injected.  By this I mean if Kyle could produce a "reasonable case for doubt" that God exist.  I do not feel any atheist will be convinced by Kyle or any other Christian that God exist for I believe that only God can provide that convincing evidence through ministry/conviction of God's Holy Spirit.  Kyle however is as capable as any Christian I know to represent the Christian position and eliminate the feeling of certainty that God doesn't exist.  If he can accomplish that then he will have prevailed.  

Hi Rram,

 

Tonight, I also shared this with all in my Friends Ministry eNewsletter mail list.   We must help our fellow believers be armed to defend our faith (1 Peter 3:15).

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Now two more people know about it. 

High five crusty. If the contradictions in the bible could be explained, which they can't, you'd think by now someone could have done it.

If god was real, he wouldn't need to be debated.

 

There'd be no doubt.

 

The BELIEVERS can't even get their s#*t straight!

 

LOL

 

The only "Smoke Screen" around here is that Burnin' Bush(tm) that BeeG is puffin' on...

Like I said, the religious majority is unaware that such language against God even exists as occurs in these closed door meetings by humanists and atheistic s I hope that this publicity will forge a resolve by the responsible part of society that these less-than-human ideas are just that and are counter to mans stewardship of this God given planet and it’s people.

 

Pup my friend its tragic that all victims such as yourself are trapped in the atheistic insanities.

I think it's more that they are jilted because God doesn't come down from Heaven and appear in front of their very eyes.  They further are enraged that these simpleton Christians might actually have some contact and something from God that they don't have and cannot realize. 

Think about it Ram,   from a psychological standpoint and view anyone that is effected by some form of jealousy usually manifest that emotion, eventually, in anger or some form of anger such as verbal or potentially, eventually physical as for relationships.  On here though we see manifestations of anger in the form of insults since really there is no other way to voice anger and aggression.  From Scripture we understand also that anger is a result of being led by the fleshly nature rather than being led by the Holy Spirit of Christ.. 

This is why they are so opposed to Scripture.  Not because we consider it the Word of God but because it IS the Word of God and the very words of scripture convicts them of their actions.  If it was truly a case of non-belief then they would never mention it twice but ignore it.  Because though it strikes a note, a chord, within their inner spirit/mind they abhor it, they find it offensive for it effects them because it cuts to the bone.  No there are reasons for the insults and they are the same now as they were in Christ day.  The exact same motivation creates the inner aggression which is fed and amplified by anger.  So enjoy the insults for Christ and the Disciples suffered the same in Christ Name. 

 

 

GB, don't confuse our "anger" with simply calling BS on your goofy claims such as the stupid Shroud thing you keep bringing up. I am angry at no one . . .  OK, perhaps one but it isn't you.   If you dont' like BS being called upon you, then stop spewing BS.

Pup says:

"If god was real, he wouldn't need to be debated.

There'd be no doubt."

 

That doesn't hold up to scrutiny, Pup. There have been millions of things that were real, that have been debated. Just look at the people who study physics. Do you think black holes weren't debated? How about quantum black holes? One actually DOES exist, and one never did, although for a while there some (Stephen Hawking was the first) BELIEVED they did. And look at medicine! There has been a debate just about eating eggs that has raged back and forth for years. People keep collecting conflicting evidence for years.

Is this the kind of "anger" you are talkign about, GB?  Shall you do what the Lord commands you and kill us all?

 

"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)" 

Funny how gb thinks the atheist's disagreement with religion is anger, but disagreement with atheism from christians is some sort of caring.

UNO/Jennifer why would I or any other Christian do such?  See that's where being able to understand the Bible and comprehend it rather than just pulling out words to use for your own benefit or to make your own point is wrong. 

Do you not know who that was written to and for what reason?  It was written to Israel as directions to God's people for governing themselves in that specific time period for that specific people.  ARE you trying to imply that because that appears in the Scripture that it applies to today?  I know you both are more intelligent than that. 

Look at our own nation and some of the crazy laws that were valid in their time and today make no sense at all.  We don't ride around on horses any more and there are other things that were relevant in their time but not valid today.  The same with God's commands and words.  Some were specific directives for Israel and necessary to Govern their nation and people according to what God demanded.  If they violated the directions then those punishments were to be administered. 

Today we live under the period of Grace where Salvation is open to the Gentiles as well as the Jews and today we are all under a Judgment upon sin but that actual Judgment comes later, after our death, but we are given a way to escape that judgment for one has paid our penalty for our sins and sin nature.  Jesus Christ and those who put their trust in Him to have paid the price for their sins.  Old Testament laws regarding the governing of the nation of Israel do not apply to Christians and people today so no people are killed for that today but that doesn't mean we, as humans, do not need to concern ourselves with a future judgment upon our acts and words and deeds as all Christians and non-Christians will face God in the future whether or not we accept to believe in Him today.

Uno, Disagree with what we say, argue that you don't believe in God or that you don't Believe in the Bible but how is calling BS incorporate personal remarks of a demeaning nature against the person posting?   What would cause personal insults if not some inward emotion about either the specific individual being insulted or due to the persons belief?   How is calling someone names calling BS against what they believe?   If you call BS on something that usually means you provide some convincing argument to the contrary.  Sorry but I don't see that happen here so that's why I said it must spring from some inner anger or resentment regarding either Church, Christians in general, or some other thing related to Christians or Christianity.  There seems to be no argument about why atheism is the all end all and how what is said is wrong?  Usually most things discussed are opinions or personal beliefs that can neither be proven or disproven.  Just because it isn't right or real for one doesn't mean it is not for the other.  

Calling BS is no more than an arrogant way of saying I'm Right and don't care about debate you accept that I'm right and it doesn't work that way.  How, otherwise, would you explain it then?

UNO/Jennifer why would I or any other Christian do such?  See that's where being able to understand the Bible and comprehend it rather than just pulling out words to use for your own benefit or to make your own point is wrong

 

 Where did I say you would do it? Come on now, show me proof or be discredited. Pulling out words? Goodness, that's a bit more than just words.